Saturday - Thousands expected to attend pro-Palestine march in DC for ceasefire in Israel-Hamas war

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Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

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The protestors have also effectively neutralized Democratic use of 1/6 footage as anti-Trump campaign material and for that I dislike them as well.

It must have been a tame rally if red hand prints on a fence are what's causing the pearl clutching.

Oh Ok, so expressing concern that Americans rally in support for terror organizations and eradicating Israel is “pearl clutching”. Got it.

That's not what they were doing. Therefore, expressing those concerns is actually called "lying".

I’m confused. Are posters lying or pearl-clutching. This is a long thread, Be specific.

Those who think Biden will lose the election because of handprints on a fence are pearl-clutching. Those suggesting the protesters were supporting a terrorist organization are lying.

There is photographic evidence of protesters supporting hezbollah.

[jsteele]

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

+1

The protestors have also effectively neutralized Democratic use of 1/6 footage as anti-Trump campaign material and for that I dislike them as well.

It must have been a tame rally if red hand prints on a fence are what's causing the pearl clutching.

Oh Ok, so expressing concern that Americans rally in support for terror organizations and eradicating Israel is “pearl clutching”. Got it.

That's not what they were doing. Therefore, expressing those concerns is actually called "lying".

I’m confused. Are posters lying or pearl-clutching. This is a long thread, Be specific.

Those who think Biden will lose the election because of handprints on a fence are pearl-clutching. Those suggesting the protesters were supporting a terrorist organization are lying.

Speaking in generalities about thousands of individual protestors is disingenuous at best. It s impossible to accurately claim that none of the protestors were supporters of Hamas. Nothing more than biased wishful thinking.

This basically makes my point. There is no reason to pearl clutch about handprints on a fence because opponents would have simply moved on to the next equally unrepresentative person or activity. Even a single Hama-supporting protester would be sufficient to mischaracterize a crowd of thousands. That's how this game is played and I suggest not playing it.

Perhaps the organizers shouldn't have asked everyone to "bring red paint"?? Maybe leave the paint at home next time.

https://wjla.com/news/local/man-arrested-vandalism-mcdonalds-israel-hamas-march-rally-protest-pennsylvania-avenue-freedom-plaza-conflict-palestinian-jewish-war-support-ceasefire-national-gaza-national-parks-service-house-of-representatives-us-capitol-youth-movement-peace-community

I received lots of information urging me to attend the rally and there was not one word about bringing red paint. Do you have evidence that "everyone" was asked to bring red paint?

As the for the who painted McDonald's, it will be interesting to learn more about him. He doesn't look like the typical rally-goer at all.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

+1

The protestors have also effectively neutralized Democratic use of 1/6 footage as anti-Trump campaign material and for that I dislike them as well.

It must have been a tame rally if red hand prints on a fence are what's causing the pearl clutching.

Oh Ok, so expressing concern that Americans rally in support for terror organizations and eradicating Israel is “pearl clutching”. Got it.

That's not what they were doing. Therefore, expressing those concerns is actually called "lying".

I’m confused. Are posters lying or pearl-clutching. This is a long thread, Be specific.

Those who think Biden will lose the election because of handprints on a fence are pearl-clutching. Those suggesting the protesters were supporting a terrorist organization are lying.

There is photographic evidence of protesters supporting hezbollah.

To not understand how sensitive a city like DC would be to 50 shades of terrorism... just tone deaf.

[jsteele]

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

+1

The protestors have also effectively neutralized Democratic use of 1/6 footage as anti-Trump campaign material and for that I dislike them as well.

It must have been a tame rally if red hand prints on a fence are what's causing the pearl clutching.

Oh Ok, so expressing concern that Americans rally in support for terror organizations and eradicating Israel is “pearl clutching”. Got it.

That's not what they were doing. Therefore, expressing those concerns is actually called "lying".

I’m confused. Are posters lying or pearl-clutching. This is a long thread, Be specific.

Those who think Biden will lose the election because of handprints on a fence are pearl-clutching. Those suggesting the protesters were supporting a terrorist organization are lying.

There is photographic evidence of protesters supporting hezbollah.

Can you provide a link?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been reading the news coverage of the protest and no mention of antisemitism in the mainstream press (cnn, NYT, Washington post, NPR, The Hill). Just in the Daily Mail (link in PP above) Fox and the Guardian.

Was anyone on this thread actually at the event and would share what they saw?

I was there from 3-5:30. I saw people of all colors (including many self-identified Jewish people), families with young children, calling for an end to the wanton bombing and for Biden to stop supporting this with our tax dollars. It was extremely peaceful, and I never heard anyone speak against Jews or praise Hamas.

Did they also lament the thousands of casualties that occurred when Hamas invaded Israel? Did they observe that the quickest way to bring a ceasefire is to release the 240 hostages that were kidnapped? Were the protestors self-aware enough to know that Hamas is not an ally of progressives? Or did the protestors share Hamas' thoughts about women and gays?

Fair points, but they may not be easy to caption in car decal slogan.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

+1

The protestors have also effectively neutralized Democratic use of 1/6 footage as anti-Trump campaign material and for that I dislike them as well.

It must have been a tame rally if red hand prints on a fence are what's causing the pearl clutching.

Oh Ok, so expressing concern that Americans rally in support for terror organizations and eradicating Israel is “pearl clutching”. Got it.

That's not what they were doing. Therefore, expressing those concerns is actually called "lying".

I’m confused. Are posters lying or pearl-clutching. This is a long thread, Be specific.

Those who think Biden will lose the election because of handprints on a fence are pearl-clutching. Those suggesting the protesters were supporting a terrorist organization are lying.

There is photographic evidence of protesters supporting hezbollah.

Can you provide a link?

https://twitter.com/TimcastNews/status/1720931435006066918

[jsteele]

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

+1

The protestors have also effectively neutralized Democratic use of 1/6 footage as anti-Trump campaign material and for that I dislike them as well.

It must have been a tame rally if red hand prints on a fence are what's causing the pearl clutching.

Oh Ok, so expressing concern that Americans rally in support for terror organizations and eradicating Israel is “pearl clutching”. Got it.

That's not what they were doing. Therefore, expressing those concerns is actually called "lying".

I’m confused. Are posters lying or pearl-clutching. This is a long thread, Be specific.

Those who think Biden will lose the election because of handprints on a fence are pearl-clutching. Those suggesting the protesters were supporting a terrorist organization are lying.

There is photographic evidence of protesters supporting hezbollah.

Can you provide a link?

https://twitter.com/TimcastNews/status/1720931435006066918

One guy with small Hezbollah flag who is being ignored by everyone is what you consider "protesters"? He also had Trinidad and Tobago flag that was much larger. So, he seems to be a bit off-message in any case.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

+1

The protestors have also effectively neutralized Democratic use of 1/6 footage as anti-Trump campaign material and for that I dislike them as well.

It must have been a tame rally if red hand prints on a fence are what's causing the pearl clutching.

Oh Ok, so expressing concern that Americans rally in support for terror organizations and eradicating Israel is “pearl clutching”. Got it.

That's not what they were doing. Therefore, expressing those concerns is actually called "lying".

I’m confused. Are posters lying or pearl-clutching. This is a long thread, Be specific.

Those who think Biden will lose the election because of handprints on a fence are pearl-clutching. Those suggesting the protesters were supporting a terrorist organization are lying.

There is photographic evidence of protesters supporting hezbollah.

Can you provide a link?

https://twitter.com/TimcastNews/status/1720931435006066918

One guy with small Hezbollah flag who is being ignored by everyone is what you consider "protesters"? He also had Trinidad and Tobago flag that was much larger. So, he seems to be a bit off-message in any case.

I’m sure you would say the same thing about far - right protesters carrying a Nazi flag. Oh, it’s just one person, why does it matter. Such a hypocrite.

And the previous posters were not lying, you are wrong and they deserve an apology.

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Frankly, Israel has the right to retaliate with as much terror as Hamas attack on Oct. 7.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

+1

The protestors have also effectively neutralized Democratic use of 1/6 footage as anti-Trump campaign material and for that I dislike them as well.

It must have been a tame rally if red hand prints on a fence are what's causing the pearl clutching.

Oh Ok, so expressing concern that Americans rally in support for terror organizations and eradicating Israel is “pearl clutching”. Got it.

That's not what they were doing. Therefore, expressing those concerns is actually called "lying".

I’m confused. Are posters lying or pearl-clutching. This is a long thread, Be specific.

Those who think Biden will lose the election because of handprints on a fence are pearl-clutching. Those suggesting the protesters were supporting a terrorist organization are lying.

Speaking in generalities about thousands of individual protestors is disingenuous at best. It s impossible to accurately claim that none of the protestors were supporters of Hamas. Nothing more than biased wishful thinking.

This basically makes my point. There is no reason to pearl clutch about handprints on a fence because opponents would have simply moved on to the next equally unrepresentative person or activity. Even a single Hama-supporting protester would be sufficient to mischaracterize a crowd of thousands. That's how this game is played and I suggest not playing it.

Perhaps the organizers shouldn't have asked everyone to "bring red paint"?? Maybe leave the paint at home next time.

https://wjla.com/news/local/man-arrested-vandalism-mcdonalds-israel-hamas-march-rally-protest-pennsylvania-avenue-freedom-plaza-conflict-palestinian-jewish-war-support-ceasefire-national-gaza-national-parks-service-house-of-representatives-us-capitol-youth-movement-peace-community

I received lots of information urging me to attend the rally and there was not one word about bringing red paint. Do you have evidence that "everyone" was asked to bring red paint?

As the for the who painted McDonald's, it will be interesting to learn more about him. He doesn't look like the typical rally-goer at all.

Red paint has been thrown on buildings at Palestine rallies worldwide, so I don't know--maybe you're not inner circle for the messaging? It was also on a flyer or twitter on one of these threads, bring your red paint to throw on the streets, but I'm not going to dig through 1,000 pages to prove a point. I have a standard for protest in cities/countries with freedom of speech, permits to protest, and security out actually to protect the protestors which is ... drumroll...follow the guidelines for peaceful, permitted protest. That goes for everyone, myself included. The folks vandalizing and climbing gates were making it unsafe for everyone, including fellow protestors and the security details.

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Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

+1

The protestors have also effectively neutralized Democratic use of 1/6 footage as anti-Trump campaign material and for that I dislike them as well.

It must have been a tame rally if red hand prints on a fence are what's causing the pearl clutching.

Oh Ok, so expressing concern that Americans rally in support for terror organizations and eradicating Israel is “pearl clutching”. Got it.

That's not what they were doing. Therefore, expressing those concerns is actually called "lying".

I’m confused. Are posters lying or pearl-clutching. This is a long thread, Be specific.

Those who think Biden will lose the election because of handprints on a fence are pearl-clutching. Those suggesting the protesters were supporting a terrorist organization are lying.

There is photographic evidence of protesters supporting hezbollah.

Can you provide a link?

https://twitter.com/TimcastNews/status/1720931435006066918

One guy with small Hezbollah flag who is being ignored by everyone is what you consider "protesters"? He also had Trinidad and Tobago flag that was much larger. So, he seems to be a bit off-message in any case.

I’m sure you would say the same thing about far - right protesters carrying a Nazi flag. Oh, it’s just one person, why does it matter. Such a hypocrite.

And the previous posters were not lying, you are wrong and they deserve an apology.

So name-calling and demonstrating mathematical ineptitude is the best you can do? A protester doesn't equal protesters.

[jsteele]

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Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

+1

The protestors have also effectively neutralized Democratic use of 1/6 footage as anti-Trump campaign material and for that I dislike them as well.

It must have been a tame rally if red hand prints on a fence are what's causing the pearl clutching.

Oh Ok, so expressing concern that Americans rally in support for terror organizations and eradicating Israel is “pearl clutching”. Got it.

That's not what they were doing. Therefore, expressing those concerns is actually called "lying".

I’m confused. Are posters lying or pearl-clutching. This is a long thread, Be specific.

Those who think Biden will lose the election because of handprints on a fence are pearl-clutching. Those suggesting the protesters were supporting a terrorist organization are lying.

Speaking in generalities about thousands of individual protestors is disingenuous at best. It s impossible to accurately claim that none of the protestors were supporters of Hamas. Nothing more than biased wishful thinking.

This basically makes my point. There is no reason to pearl clutch about handprints on a fence because opponents would have simply moved on to the next equally unrepresentative person or activity. Even a single Hama-supporting protester would be sufficient to mischaracterize a crowd of thousands. That's how this game is played and I suggest not playing it.

Perhaps the organizers shouldn't have asked everyone to "bring red paint"?? Maybe leave the paint at home next time.

https://wjla.com/news/local/man-arrested-vandalism-mcdonalds-israel-hamas-march-rally-protest-pennsylvania-avenue-freedom-plaza-conflict-palestinian-jewish-war-support-ceasefire-national-gaza-national-parks-service-house-of-representatives-us-capitol-youth-movement-peace-community

I received lots of information urging me to attend the rally and there was not one word about bringing red paint. Do you have evidence that "everyone" was asked to bring red paint?

As the for the who painted McDonald's, it will be interesting to learn more about him. He doesn't look like the typical rally-goer at all.

Red paint has been thrown on buildings at Palestine rallies worldwide, so I don't know--maybe you're not inner circle for the messaging? It was also on a flyer or twitter on one of these threads, bring your red paint to throw on the streets, but I'm not going to dig through 1,000 pages to prove a point. I have a standard for protest in cities/countries with freedom of speech, permits to protest, and security out actually to protect the protestors which is ... drumroll...follow the guidelines for peaceful, permitted protest. That goes for everyone, myself included. The folks vandalizing and climbing gates were making it unsafe for everyone, including fellow protestors and the security details.

Fine. Oppose the paint. I oppose it myself. Just don't act like it is single-handily going to cost Democrats the election. It's not. If the paint didn't exist, opponents would simply be complaining about something else.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of the protesters condemn Hamas? Serious question?

You need to face the music. People have been angry for a long time about how much money our govt wastes propping up a belligerent theocratic "democracy," and this might be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Right, US interests are totally served by letting Israel be destroyed

The state of Israel has resulted in nearly 7 decades of apartheid and oppression. Maybe it’s time for the US to stop giving it money and shielding it from the consequences of its actions on the world stage.

Look, many other states have failed and their people are fine. The third Reich was wiped off the face of the map and the German people have never been better. The USSR was wiped off the map and Russians are still invading other countries. The confederacy was wiped off the map and idiot Americans are thriving. If Israel is wiped off the map and Jews have to coexist in a democracy where everyone has a vote, they will be fine. And maybe they won’t have to build bomb shelters in their homes.

You mean the Third Reich that tried to exterminate all Jews and almost succeeded, leading the UN to create a safe haven for Jews on their indigenous lands that they had been living on for millennia even despite attempts to expel them? That Third Reich?

Please tell us more about the current Israeli Jews having lived on that land for millennia …

By this definition, you are a settler here in America. Why don’t you offer up your land to a Native American?

There’s no known dispute related to the coastal property I own right now. I also paid for it. If someone asserted ownership in the past 100 years, a system exists to sort that out.

You, on the other hand, are trying to keep a straight face while arguing that people from the Ukraine, Poland, and Brooklyn who descended on indigenous people in that region as far back as 100 years ago or so, and as recent as last week, to terrorize them into abandoning their property, have the same land rights as me.

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Anonymous wrote:I have an idea. They should call for Hamas to release the hostages, which would instantly end the hostilities.

It would certainly be a step in the right direction, but it wouldn't end the way instantly. Hamas still needs to be rooted out

The protest was not organized to call for the release of the hostages. It was organized to draw attention to the suffering of the Palestinian people and call for a cease - fire.

There are many other ways the attention has been on the hostages (the posters, profiles on network TV, politicians statements, etc etc).

Yeah, but so many hostage posters have been ripped down and thrown into trash cans.

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Anonymous wrote:So let’s say Israel says ok ceasefire. What’s step 2?

Peace
ICC
World condemnation for atrocities
Netflix docu series

Ok and who is Israel negotiating with? Who governs Gaza?