Saturday - Thousands expected to attend pro-Palestine march in DC for ceasefire in Israel-Hamas war

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Until the rallies acknowledge and condemn Hamas, Erhadt than calling attacks justified, it’s difficult not to take this as antisemitic and calling for Israel’s destruction

I have no control over Hamas.

What I can do is protest my own governments actions.

And, much of the money sent to Israel by the US is to replenish the iron dome. So, you are protesting the US protecting the lives of Jews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When there are Bills like this one introduced that called for the expulsion of an entire ethnicity from the US introduced I think there is a need to show support.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4292692-gop-rep-zinke-proposes-bill-to-ban-palestinians-from-entering-us/amp/

I hope protesters don’t yield to hate and “othering” themselves.

This bill is disgusting. Shows you who the GOP is - yet again.

That said, if you go to a protest carrying swastikas, burning Israeli flags, chanting for Jews to be exterminated, and openly celebrating October 7, then you’re embracing hate and terrorism. Yes to free speech but hate is hate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Until the rallies acknowledge and condemn Hamas, Erhadt than calling attacks justified, it’s difficult not to take this as antisemitic and calling for Israel’s destruction

I have no control over Hamas.

What I can do is protest my own governments actions.

And, much of the money sent to Israel by the US is to replenish the iron dome. So, you are protesting the US protecting the lives of Jews.

A call for a ceasefire means everyone ceases fire.

[Anonymous]

Let’s see how many actually show up.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Until the rallies acknowledge and condemn Hamas, Erhadt than calling attacks justified, it’s difficult not to take this as antisemitic and calling for Israel’s destruction

I have no control over Hamas.

What I can do is protest my own governments actions.

And, much of the money sent to Israel by the US is to replenish the iron dome. So, you are protesting the US protecting the lives of Jews.

Lives of Israelis. Israel and Jews are not synonymous.

[Anonymous]

Jeff, as a Jew, that post is extremely offensive. I have been following the threads on here since October 7th, but never once have I posted. I see that your posts are clearly anti-Israel but you take pains to distinguish that stance from antisemitism. This latest post has crossed the line. And this is coming from a Jew who has no problem criticizing the Israeli government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, as a Jew, that post is extremely offensive. I have been following the threads on here since October 7th, but never once have I posted. I see that your posts are clearly anti-Israel but you take pains to distinguish that stance from antisemitism. This latest post has crossed the line. And this is coming from a Jew who has no problem criticizing the Israeli government.

Please explain why saying the iron dome protects the lives of Israelis (rather than Jews) is antisemitic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We've all seen the swastikas and the hate speech.We've seen law firms rescind offers to students signing anti-semitic screeds. Most people don't want to be associated with these protesters. So I imagine that those that do will be the worst of the worst. And of course most will be masked. Just like the KKK. Definitely would not attend if you have a career to think about

The vast majority of protests have been peaceful. I think there have only been a handful of incidents out of the hundred+ protests in the last few weeks? The ideal would be 0 incidents. The hate speech and swastikas have been a very small percentage of these people and I wouldn't want any person saying those things to show up. Of course showing up with swastikas is awful.

Yes, there will probably be chants of "from the river to the sea" and "free Palestine", but that is not hate speech, not in the US. You can pull up a bunch of articles written by people saying it is, and I can pull up articles written by people saying it's not. So it would be your perspective to say it's hate speech, but other people have a different perspective.

I mean, since you all think it's hate speech anyway and want to cancel them for saying free Palestine, why wouldn't they just say death chants or whatever if that's what they really meant? It's because it's not what the vast majority of people mean when they say it.

So let them exercise their first amendment rights. If we disagree with an action of our government, it is our right to protest peacefully. They are not terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. This is a call to our government to do what it can do to minimize the suffering of the innocent people of Gaza.

Almost everyone, Jews and Muslim, wants the violence to end. Hamas has broken the cease-fire every time.

Hamas does not equal all Palestinians. The protests are to protest using our tax dollars to kill Palestinians. I honestly don’t think this situation can end without much more death but how is it antisemitism to go to a protest?

Will they be condemning Hamas? Catchy chant for that?

Hamas doesn't listen to me.

What I can do is ask my government to not use my tax dollars to help in the bombing of innocent civilians. It's asking our government to do more to reduce the death and suffering of the Palestinian people.

Nice avoidance, but protests (I've participated in quite a few) are symbolic messaging. Protestors choose what to message. ^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Until the rallies acknowledge and condemn Hamas, Erhadt than calling attacks justified, it’s difficult not to take this as antisemitic and calling for Israel’s destruction

I have no control over Hamas.

What I can do is protest my own governments actions.

And, much of the money sent to Israel by the US is to replenish the iron dome. So, you are protesting the US protecting the lives of Jews.

A call for a ceasefire means everyone ceases fire.

“From the River to the Sea” isn’t calling for a ceasefire. It’s calling for a one state solution.

It leaves to the imagination how you get there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, as a Jew, that post is extremely offensive. I have been following the threads on here since October 7th, but never once have I posted. I see that your posts are clearly anti-Israel but you take pains to distinguish that stance from antisemitism. This latest post has crossed the line. And this is coming from a Jew who has no problem criticizing the Israeli government.

Please explain why saying the iron dome protects the lives of Israelis (rather than Jews) is antisemitic.

Bc the majority of Israelis are Jews. You can separate the Israeli government from Jews as a whole but NOT the people living there.

[Anonymous]

I will be attending with a friend.

Calling on a ceasefire.

Peace. Love and Happiness.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, as a Jew, that post is extremely offensive. I have been following the threads on here since October 7th, but never once have I posted. I see that your posts are clearly anti-Israel but you take pains to distinguish that stance from antisemitism. This latest post has crossed the line. And this is coming from a Jew who has no problem criticizing the Israeli government.

Have you forgotten that over 20% of Israel's population is non-Jewish?

Your accusation about me is completely off-base and in fairness and well as for accuracy, you should retract it.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, as a Jew, that post is extremely offensive. I have been following the threads on here since October 7th, but never once have I posted. I see that your posts are clearly anti-Israel but you take pains to distinguish that stance from antisemitism. This latest post has crossed the line. And this is coming from a Jew who has no problem criticizing the Israeli government.

Please explain why saying the iron dome protects the lives of Israelis (rather than Jews) is antisemitic.

Bc the majority of Israelis are Jews. You can separate the Israeli government from Jews as a whole but NOT the people living there.

You are irrational. Not all the people living there are Jews.

America is a majority Christian nation. Do we say that the US military only defends Christians?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, as a Jew, that post is extremely offensive. I have been following the threads on here since October 7th, but never once have I posted. I see that your posts are clearly anti-Israel but you take pains to distinguish that stance from antisemitism. This latest post has crossed the line. And this is coming from a Jew who has no problem criticizing the Israeli government.

You know what’s offensive? Being unwilling to separate the two. Israel is a country. Its inhabitants are Israelis. Jews are an ethnicity and/or a religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will be attending with a friend.

Calling on a ceasefire.

Peace. Love and Happiness.

Good for you. And condemn Hamas. They are not about "peace love and happiness" ^