Is Karen considered a racial slur?

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Anonymous wrote:I hate the term Karen, but the way the word "entitled" has come to be used bothers me more. The connotation of that word is negative, usually used when someone thinks they deserve special privileges or treatment for no reason. Acting as of you are deserving of special treatment is entitled and annoying.

Asking for the food you ordered, for basic rules to be observed (like quiet hours or no smoking at a hotel), or to not have someone screaming in your face is not entitled.

It's funny to me that people hate Karens who complain about rules that apply to everyone being broken. Isn't it more entitled to think the rules don't apply to you?

The lording over people is the entitlement bit. You have designated yourself hall monitor to tell others what to do.

Exactly. It's a perceived sense of power that they get some sick joy out of lording over everyone. For example, the biddies in my neighborhood currently up in arms over a few kids selling cold water at the park. How is it hurting you? Why can't you keep your nose in your own business?

How do you know what their business is? Maybe they had to buy permits to sell water and these kids are doing it without the permit thus hurting their business? It's not just a few sweet kids doing no harm. If it's a permit issue why are they entitled to sell water with out a permit?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate the term Karen, but the way the word "entitled" has come to be used bothers me more. The connotation of that word is negative, usually used when someone thinks they deserve special privileges or treatment for no reason. Acting as of you are deserving of special treatment is entitled and annoying.

Asking for the food you ordered, for basic rules to be observed (like quiet hours or no smoking at a hotel), or to not have someone screaming in your face is not entitled.

It's funny to me that people hate Karens who complain about rules that apply to everyone being broken. Isn't it more entitled to think the rules don't apply to you?

The lording over people is the entitlement bit. You have designated yourself hall monitor to tell others what to do.

Doesn't that depend on the situation? If you are in a hotel with your kids trying to sleep and the person next to you is partying loudly at 3 a.m., you actually are entitled to quiet, and the people partying are not. If you ask for quiet, either directly or by calling the front desk, does that make you a Karen?

You can ask them nicely to be quieter or call the front desk and nicely ask them to help.

That goes for all skin tones and genders.

[Anonymous]

Many people ignore middle-age white women, some micro-aggress, and some are openly hostile. In my experience, it is mostly women of other races who are the most hostile.

These experiences happen to me weekly. But, it's taboo to speak of bc I'm not allowed to say that a black woman was rude to me, possibly just because of my race/age/gender because "I want so badly to be oppressed" or whatever that other pp said.

So, I just ignore it. But, it does happen regularly enough that I dread going certain places and doing certain things because I know that I will be treated poorly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate the term Karen, but the way the word "entitled" has come to be used bothers me more. The connotation of that word is negative, usually used when someone thinks they deserve special privileges or treatment for no reason. Acting as of you are deserving of special treatment is entitled and annoying.

Asking for the food you ordered, for basic rules to be observed (like quiet hours or no smoking at a hotel), or to not have someone screaming in your face is not entitled.

It's funny to me that people hate Karens who complain about rules that apply to everyone being broken. Isn't it more entitled to think the rules don't apply to you?

The lording over people is the entitlement bit. You have designated yourself hall monitor to tell others what to do.

Doesn't that depend on the situation? If you are in a hotel with your kids trying to sleep and the person next to you is partying loudly at 3 a.m., you actually are entitled to quiet, and the people partying are not. If you ask for quiet, either directly or by calling the front desk, does that make you a Karen?

No it doesn't. People are conveniently choosing nonexamples.

Karen behavior:
- complaining about a server's accent and demanding to speak to the manager

- asking the young black man in your apartment lobby for his ID and proof he belongs there

- calling the cops on people using a grill

- screaming and acting a fool because a black man asked you to leash your dog

- taking full credit for work you had help with, or passing the blame to the young black woman on your team

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate the term Karen, but the way the word "entitled" has come to be used bothers me more. The connotation of that word is negative, usually used when someone thinks they deserve special privileges or treatment for no reason. Acting as of you are deserving of special treatment is entitled and annoying.

Asking for the food you ordered, for basic rules to be observed (like quiet hours or no smoking at a hotel), or to not have someone screaming in your face is not entitled.

It's funny to me that people hate Karens who complain about rules that apply to everyone being broken. Isn't it more entitled to think the rules don't apply to you?

The lording over people is the entitlement bit. You have designated yourself hall monitor to tell others what to do.

Doesn't that depend on the situation? If you are in a hotel with your kids trying to sleep and the person next to you is partying loudly at 3 a.m., you actually are entitled to quiet, and the people partying are not. If you ask for quiet, either directly or by calling the front desk, does that make you a Karen?

If someone is keeping me awake until 3am because of their loud partying at a hotel that I am also paying to stay it, I will not be nice.

You can ask them nicely to be quieter or call the front desk and nicely ask them to help.

That goes for all skin tones and genders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate the term Karen, but the way the word "entitled" has come to be used bothers me more. The connotation of that word is negative, usually used when someone thinks they deserve special privileges or treatment for no reason. Acting as of you are deserving of special treatment is entitled and annoying.

Asking for the food you ordered, for basic rules to be observed (like quiet hours or no smoking at a hotel), or to not have someone screaming in your face is not entitled.

It's funny to me that people hate Karens who complain about rules that apply to everyone being broken. Isn't it more entitled to think the rules don't apply to you?

The lording over people is the entitlement bit. You have designated yourself hall monitor to tell others what to do.

Doesn't that depend on the situation? If you are in a hotel with your kids trying to sleep and the person next to you is partying loudly at 3 a.m., you actually are entitled to quiet, and the people partying are not. If you ask for quiet, either directly or by calling the front desk, does that make you a Karen?

You can ask them nicely to be quieter or call the front desk and nicely ask them to help.

That goes for all skin tones and genders.

I agree with you about asking nicely, but I think that women are regularly branded as "Karens" even if they ask nicely. It happens when a white woman requests something that another person doesn't feel like doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate the term Karen, but the way the word "entitled" has come to be used bothers me more. The connotation of that word is negative, usually used when someone thinks they deserve special privileges or treatment for no reason. Acting as of you are deserving of special treatment is entitled and annoying.

Asking for the food you ordered, for basic rules to be observed (like quiet hours or no smoking at a hotel), or to not have someone screaming in your face is not entitled.

It's funny to me that people hate Karens who complain about rules that apply to everyone being broken. Isn't it more entitled to think the rules don't apply to you?

The lording over people is the entitlement bit. You have designated yourself hall monitor to tell others what to do.

Doesn't that depend on the situation? If you are in a hotel with your kids trying to sleep and the person next to you is partying loudly at 3 a.m., you actually are entitled to quiet, and the people partying are not. If you ask for quiet, either directly or by calling the front desk, does that make you a Karen?

You can ask them nicely to be quieter or call the front desk and nicely ask them to help.

That goes for all skin tones and genders.

I agree with you about asking nicely, but I think that women are regularly branded as "Karens" even if they ask nicely. It happens when a white woman requests something that another person doesn't feel like doing.

+1 Also, I don't think you need to ask nicely at 3am.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All this fuss makes me want to use it more. Maybe if more white women feel the oppression they are both perpetrators and victims of, they'll stop aligning themselves with white supremacy and actually help us dismantle it.

White women will just report you to the manager for your micro aggressions and perhaps call the police on you if you escalate. What comes around goes around. Hope you don't get caught doing it at work.

I'm not dumb enough to think white women are my friends, at work or otherwise. Beware of the Karens is potentially life saving advice I will continue to give my kids. Those ladies may seem nice enough, but crossing them could get you killed. Learn to identify and avoid.

What would you say if a white person was teaching their kids that “be aware of young black men” is potentially life saving advice?

You really don’t know what racism is, do you?

Are you really suggesting that teaching your kids to fear and “stay the hell away” from white women is not racist?

No. Fearing people who have oppressed people like you for centuries is not racism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate the term Karen, but the way the word "entitled" has come to be used bothers me more. The connotation of that word is negative, usually used when someone thinks they deserve special privileges or treatment for no reason. Acting as of you are deserving of special treatment is entitled and annoying.

Asking for the food you ordered, for basic rules to be observed (like quiet hours or no smoking at a hotel), or to not have someone screaming in your face is not entitled.

It's funny to me that people hate Karens who complain about rules that apply to everyone being broken. Isn't it more entitled to think the rules don't apply to you?

The lording over people is the entitlement bit. You have designated yourself hall monitor to tell others what to do.

Exactly. It's a perceived sense of power that they get some sick joy out of lording over everyone. For example, the biddies in my neighborhood currently up in arms over a few kids selling cold water at the park. How is it hurting you? Why can't you keep your nose in your own business?

How do you know what their business is? Maybe they had to buy permits to sell water and these kids are doing it without the permit thus hurting their business? It's not just a few sweet kids doing no harm. If it's a permit issue why are they entitled to sell water with out a permit?

What are the chances they are actually affected by a few kids selling waters? They aren't. Yet you justify their behavior. THIS is white entitlement and this is why people chafe at it. Just mind your own damn business! The days of you being the ultimate authority are over, no matter how loudly you screech about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:All this fuss makes me want to use it more. Maybe if more white women feel the oppression they are both perpetrators and victims of, they'll stop aligning themselves with white supremacy and actually help us dismantle it.

White women will just report you to the manager for your micro aggressions and perhaps call the police on you if you escalate. What comes around goes around. Hope you don't get caught doing it at work.

I'm not dumb enough to think white women are my friends, at work or otherwise. Beware of the Karens is potentially life saving advice I will continue to give my kids. Those ladies may seem nice enough, but crossing them could get you killed. Learn to identify and avoid.

What would you say if a white person was teaching their kids that “be aware of young black men” is potentially life saving advice?

You really don’t know what racism is, do you?

Are you really suggesting that teaching your kids to fear and “stay the hell away” from white women is not racist?

No. Fearing people who have oppressed people like you for centuries is not racism.

Only white women? How odd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate the term Karen, but the way the word "entitled" has come to be used bothers me more. The connotation of that word is negative, usually used when someone thinks they deserve special privileges or treatment for no reason. Acting as of you are deserving of special treatment is entitled and annoying.

Asking for the food you ordered, for basic rules to be observed (like quiet hours or no smoking at a hotel), or to not have someone screaming in your face is not entitled.

It's funny to me that people hate Karens who complain about rules that apply to everyone being broken. Isn't it more entitled to think the rules don't apply to you?

The lording over people is the entitlement bit. You have designated yourself hall monitor to tell others what to do.

Exactly. It's a perceived sense of power that they get some sick joy out of lording over everyone. For example, the biddies in my neighborhood currently up in arms over a few kids selling cold water at the park. How is it hurting you? Why can't you keep your nose in your own business?

How do you know what their business is? Maybe they had to buy permits to sell water and these kids are doing it without the permit thus hurting their business? It's not just a few sweet kids doing no harm. If it's a permit issue why are they entitled to sell water with out a permit?

What are the chances they are actually affected by a few kids selling waters? They aren't. Yet you justify their behavior. THIS is white entitlement and this is why people chafe at it. Just mind your own damn business! The days of you being the ultimate authority are over, no matter how loudly you screech about it.

Oh I see. Entitlement only applies to some. The kids weren't being entitled by operating outside the law? Do laws not apply to all? The women were obviously minding their own business until this came along. I reject your lawless society.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate the term Karen, but the way the word "entitled" has come to be used bothers me more. The connotation of that word is negative, usually used when someone thinks they deserve special privileges or treatment for no reason. Acting as of you are deserving of special treatment is entitled and annoying.

Asking for the food you ordered, for basic rules to be observed (like quiet hours or no smoking at a hotel), or to not have someone screaming in your face is not entitled.

It's funny to me that people hate Karens who complain about rules that apply to everyone being broken. Isn't it more entitled to think the rules don't apply to you?

The lording over people is the entitlement bit. You have designated yourself hall monitor to tell others what to do.

Doesn't that depend on the situation? If you are in a hotel with your kids trying to sleep and the person next to you is partying loudly at 3 a.m., you actually are entitled to quiet, and the people partying are not. If you ask for quiet, either directly or by calling the front desk, does that make you a Karen?

You can ask them nicely to be quieter or call the front desk and nicely ask them to help.

That goes for all skin tones and genders.

If someone is keeping me awake until 3am because of their loud partying at a hotel that I am also paying to stay it, I will not be nice.

Perfect example of a Karen. We don’t know your age, gender, or race. Just your attitude and self-professed likely behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It's only used with regard to white women. If its not racist, please let me know what I can call a similarly situated black, hispanic, asian, etc. woman.

It's not racist, and you can call them Karen if they're being a Karen. You can even call a dude Karen. Everyone will understand what you mean. Can we get back to real problems now?

+1

Ok, just to be clear, you are all for racist stereotyping. And it is ok as long as it is an unsympathetic group of people you are targeting. All those middle-aged white women deserve to be disparaged as a group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this fuss makes me want to use it more. Maybe if more white women feel the oppression they are both perpetrators and victims of, they'll stop aligning themselves with white supremacy and actually help us dismantle it.

White women will just report you to the manager for your micro aggressions and perhaps call the police on you if you escalate. What comes around goes around. Hope you don't get caught doing it at work.

I'm not dumb enough to think white women are my friends, at work or otherwise. Beware of the Karens is potentially life saving advice I will continue to give my kids. Those ladies may seem nice enough, but crossing them could get you killed. Learn to identify and avoid.

What would you say if a white person was teaching their kids that “be aware of young black men” is potentially life saving advice?

You really don’t know what racism is, do you?

Are you really suggesting that teaching your kids to fear and “stay the hell away” from white women is not racist?

Not just white women. Fussy power tripping white women. Fussy power tripping white women are dangerous. You refuse to see the difference and acknowledge reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I hate the term Karen, but the way the word "entitled" has come to be used bothers me more. The connotation of that word is negative, usually used when someone thinks they deserve special privileges or treatment for no reason. Acting as of you are deserving of special treatment is entitled and annoying.

Asking for the food you ordered, for basic rules to be observed (like quiet hours or no smoking at a hotel), or to not have someone screaming in your face is not entitled.

It's funny to me that people hate Karens who complain about rules that apply to everyone being broken. Isn't it more entitled to think the rules don't apply to you?

The lording over people is the entitlement bit. You have designated yourself hall monitor to tell others what to do.

Exactly. It's a perceived sense of power that they get some sick joy out of lording over everyone. For example, the biddies in my neighborhood currently up in arms over a few kids selling cold water at the park. How is it hurting you? Why can't you keep your nose in your own business?

How do you know what their business is? Maybe they had to buy permits to sell water and these kids are doing it without the permit thus hurting their business? It's not just a few sweet kids doing no harm. If it's a permit issue why are they entitled to sell water with out a permit?

What are the chances they are actually affected by a few kids selling waters? They aren't. Yet you justify their behavior. THIS is white entitlement and this is why people chafe at it. Just mind your own damn business! The days of you being the ultimate authority are over, no matter how loudly you screech about it.

Oh I see. Entitlement only applies to some. The kids weren't being entitled by operating outside the law? Do laws not apply to all? The women were obviously minding their own business until this came along. I reject your lawless society.

You better call the manager, Karen.