Is it impressive that kids from a very fancy New York City private school are getting into competitive colleges? I think it would make a bigger impression if that were not happening. |
There are plenty of (dozens if not more) fancy privates in NYC, not every single one is Dalton. I am wondering if they are indeed doing something right. |
Being old. |
Not sure if it’s been mentioned here, but check out the matriculations for St. Ann’s in Brooklyn Heights. |
I heard that they don’t have grades for students. How colleges differentiate their students is puzzling. |
Those schools are all pretty old. |
They differentiate the size of their parents' bank accounts. |
Yeah, and they're all pretty damn prestigious. |
The vast majority of parents at Dalton and similar schools are rich grads of Ivy+ and/or diversity. |
The last refuge of non-meritorious, non-competitive admits for Ivy are independent school students. The Ivy will never, ever give that up. They are hypocrites when it comes to their ideals. |
They are all old, but not all prestigious. Trump sent Barron to Columbia Prep for a while, but their eximission is no where near Dalton or Horace Mann. That’s why I wonder if Dalton is doing something right. |
Keep in mind that 3 people from my class of 100 ar Trinity have committed suicide. One of them was the smartest kid in my class.
Does guarantee happiness. |
Barron went to Columbia Prep because he couldn't get into Trinity, where his brothers went |
omg |
I don't think people are surprised necessarily. But given that admissions to top 20 schools have become exponentially more competitive over the past thirty years, people are paying more attention to who gets into these schools. There are tons of brilliant and accomplished students out there today, and yet some colleges continue to favor mid students who have nothing but their privilege as the only thing that's notable - whether its a prominent name, wealth, certain private schools like Dalton, etc. I think Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and to a lesser extent, Stanford, have effectively become country club schools for this population. And so there's a disconnect between the prestige these colleges continue to confer and the very mediocre, but well-connected and rich students that go there. People do tend to believe that college admissions are based on a meritocracy, which people will accept. And now people are learning that HYP undergrad admissions have nothing to do with merit, which tends to bother people, given all the advantages that come with a degree from these schools. Eventually rankings and employer preferences will adjust, but in the meantime there's annoyance at the continued privileges that the children of the wealthy get in college admissions to certain schools. |