Where are all the Ivy admits coming from you wonder? Dalton NYC 2023 Matriculations

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Anonymous wrote:I live in NYC and grew up in DC. The wealth and connections are generally on a different scale. These are billionaire, private jet, private island type families. They are masters of industry who have Ivy board members on speed dial. They basically own Harvard, Yale and Princeton.

Exactly! The Ivies and top schools are all talk and full of it.

No, the concept is introduce *some* diverse students who will then have access to these elite peers and the education they've always been able to secure (and vice versa, maybe). Eliminate that original group and all is for naught.

Many of the "diverse" peers at Ivies are just normal kids these high schools as well. Either well-off and connected URM families or kids that got to the private school through Prep for Prep or similar. It's a crummy system. I have no idea why so many people are driven to defend it.

+1 IMO, it's like the nobility giving crumbs to the masses, and letting them hobnob with truly elite. How noble of them.

How about every person be judged by their efforts rather than who their parents were?

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Anonymous wrote:Hunter is a public, magnet school, not really relevant to this conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:The parent population at top NYC privates is in an entirely different league than DC’s.

I’m not sure exactly where the kids of Katie Holmes, Sarah Jessica Parker, Emily Blunt (if they’re back in NYC now), Drew Barrymore, Tina Fey etc go to school in NYC, but presumably top NYC privates. And I bet they’re far from the wealthiest parents of kids at those schools when you take into account NYC finance parents. Unlike DC privates that have a lot of civil servants making $180k/year.

Right, of course. But what about the Ivies and top schools taking all these kids? They claim to be interested in expanding their reach and diversifying, but this list proves that's all talk. They really want wealthy NYC elite.

Now you know how us masses in public schools with no hook feels.

Eh, my kid is here. NYC, Public, I don't know of a single legacy, most pretty poor, about 125 kids in the class. Most acceptances not listed -- I know of at least 2 into Harvard. 5 MIT in early round alone.

https://www.instagram.com/hsmse2023colleges/

I don’t think this is Hunter?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in NYC and grew up in DC. The wealth and connections are generally on a different scale. These are billionaire, private jet, private island type families. They are masters of industry who have Ivy board members on speed dial. They basically own Harvard, Yale and Princeton.

Exactly! The Ivies and top schools are all talk and full of it.

No, the concept is introduce *some* diverse students who will then have access to these elite peers and the education they've always been able to secure (and vice versa, maybe). Eliminate that original group and all is for naught.

Many of the "diverse" peers at Ivies are just normal kids these high schools as well. Either well-off and connected URM families or kids that got to the private school through Prep for Prep or similar. It's a crummy system. I have no idea why so many people are driven to defend it.

+1 IMO, it's like the nobility giving crumbs to the masses, and letting them hobnob with truly elite. How noble of them.

How about every person be judged by their efforts rather than who their parents were?

Sure, no more development, legacy or recruiting in expensive sports to start.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a second-tier NYC private and was unhooked but...

IMO Dalton and Trinity are in a different league because every kid is hooked. They are either the child of a billionaire, or the kid is extremely talented (I knew a couple of kids in my grade who attended Dalton while basically working as professional actors or writers, similar to Professional Children's School) or they were exceptional URM candidates from Prep for Prep.

This, exactly. Trying to get a kid into Dalton or Trinity makes you realize it's a cake walk to get into Big 3 schools. There are very few unhooked UMC families at these schools.

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Anonymous wrote:8 Harvard matriculations from one class?!?

When someone gets into Harvard from the high school I attended, there is a write-up on that student in the local newspaper

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a second-tier NYC private and was unhooked but...

IMO Dalton and Trinity are in a different league because every kid is hooked. They are either the child of a billionaire, or the kid is extremely talented (I knew a couple of kids in my grade who attended Dalton while basically working as professional actors or writers, similar to Professional Children's School) or they were exceptional URM candidates from Prep for Prep.

This, exactly. Trying to get a kid into Dalton or Trinity makes you realize it's a cake walk to get into Big 3 schools. There are very few unhooked UMC families at these schools.

Yeah, I'm the PP and the UMC kids who get into these schools in 9th grade are usually INSANELY talented kids. My cousin was one and she had a national level talent which she was getting paid for.

[Anonymous]

Randomly googled one of the Dalton kids’ unique first & last name. One of the first results was the announcement by the same top school that child is committed to of a building donation.

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Anonymous wrote:Randomly googled one of the Dalton kids’ unique first & last name. One of the first results was the announcement by the same top school that child is committed to of a building donation.

I'm sure they run in circles where everyone's used to mommy and daddy donating $$ to get their kids some advantage, but in the real world, I would find it embarrassing that the only reason you got into some elite school was because your parents literally bought your way in.

IMO, unhooked kids getting into elite schools is impressive. These rich kids getting in.. not so much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Randomly googled one of the Dalton kids’ unique first & last name. One of the first results was the announcement by the same top school that child is committed to of a building donation.

I'm sure they run in circles where everyone's used to mommy and daddy donating $$ to get their kids some advantage, but in the real world, I would find it embarrassing that the only reason you got into some elite school was because your parents literally bought your way in.

IMO, unhooked kids getting into elite schools is impressive. These rich kids getting in.. not so much.

I'm sure they'll feel really sad while flying on daddy's jet to spend the weekend in Deer Vally

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in NYC and grew up in DC. The wealth and connections are generally on a different scale. These are billionaire, private jet, private island type families. They are masters of industry who have Ivy board members on speed dial. They basically own Harvard, Yale and Princeton.

Exactly! The Ivies and top schools are all talk and full of it.

No, the concept is introduce *some* diverse students who will then have access to these elite peers and the education they've always been able to secure (and vice versa, maybe). Eliminate that original group and all is for naught.

Many of the "diverse" peers at Ivies are just normal kids these high schools as well. Either well-off and connected URM families or kids that got to the private school through Prep for Prep or similar. It's a crummy system. I have no idea why so many people are driven to defend it.

Of course, same concept works younger, and that ups the odds. I'm not defending anything, but how is it people obsess about going to a school for elites, without realizing the elites are the obsession?

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Anonymous wrote:The parent population at top NYC privates is in an entirely different league than DC’s.

I’m not sure exactly where the kids of Katie Holmes, Sarah Jessica Parker, Emily Blunt (if they’re back in NYC now), Drew Barrymore, Tina Fey etc go to school in NYC, but presumably top NYC privates. And I bet they’re far from the wealthiest parents of kids at those schools when you take into account NYC finance parents. Unlike DC privates that have a lot of civil servants making $180k/year.

Actually, Dalton is more like the children of Jamie Dimon, a former president of Yale, some VP at Blackrock, maybe Bono's kid or owner of Conde Nast, etc...
Tina Fey's kid goes to Trinity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The parent population at top NYC privates is in an entirely different league than DC’s.

I’m not sure exactly where the kids of Katie Holmes, Sarah Jessica Parker, Emily Blunt (if they’re back in NYC now), Drew Barrymore, Tina Fey etc go to school in NYC, but presumably top NYC privates. And I bet they’re far from the wealthiest parents of kids at those schools when you take into account NYC finance parents. Unlike DC privates that have a lot of civil servants making $180k/year.

Katie Holmes - Avenues - eh
Sarah Jessica Parker - City and Country - eh
Emily Blunt - don't know
Blake Lively - Village Community School - eh
Drew Barrymore - Brearley - amazing
Tina Fewy. - Brearley - amazing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Randomly googled one of the Dalton kids’ unique first & last name. One of the first results was the announcement by the same top school that child is committed to of a building donation.

I'm sure they run in circles where everyone's used to mommy and daddy donating $$ to get their kids some advantage, but in the real world, I would find it embarrassing that the only reason you got into some elite school was because your parents literally bought your way in.

IMO, unhooked kids getting into elite schools is impressive. These rich kids getting in.. not so much.

I'm sure they'll feel really sad while flying on daddy's jet to spend the weekend in Deer Vally

sure, and many never go out into the real world, like the Trump family kids, but these kids aren't impressive.

Interestingly, UK (a country with a royal family) colleges don't care who your family is but the US (meritocracy but only for the masses) colleges still do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Randomly googled one of the Dalton kids’ unique first & last name. One of the first results was the announcement by the same top school that child is committed to of a building donation.

I'm sure they run in circles where everyone's used to mommy and daddy donating $$ to get their kids some advantage, but in the real world, I would find it embarrassing that the only reason you got into some elite school was because your parents literally bought your way in.

IMO, unhooked kids getting into elite schools is impressive. These rich kids getting in.. not so much.

I'm sure they'll feel really sad while flying on daddy's jet to spend the weekend in Deer Vally

sure, and many never go out into the real world, like the Trump family kids, but these kids aren't impressive.

Interestingly, UK (a country with a royal family) colleges don't care who your family is but the US (meritocracy but only for the masses) colleges still do.

20 of 55 Prime Ministers in the UK went to one school - Eton. Granted, it's a high school, but still. The UK is not a meritocracy when it comes to education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parent population at top NYC privates is in an entirely different league than DC’s.

I’m not sure exactly where the kids of Katie Holmes, Sarah Jessica Parker, Emily Blunt (if they’re back in NYC now), Drew Barrymore, Tina Fey etc go to school in NYC, but presumably top NYC privates. And I bet they’re far from the wealthiest parents of kids at those schools when you take into account NYC finance parents. Unlike DC privates that have a lot of civil servants making $180k/year.

Right, of course. But what about the Ivies and top schools taking all these kids? They claim to be interested in expanding their reach and diversifying, but this list proves that's all talk. They really want wealthy NYC elite.

Now you know how us masses in public schools with no hook feels.

Eh, my kid is here. NYC, Public, I don't know of a single legacy, most pretty poor, about 125 kids in the class. Most acceptances not listed -- I know of at least 2 into Harvard. 5 MIT in early round alone.

https://www.instagram.com/hsmse2023colleges/

Seeing a couple OOS publics on there that do not give FA or merit to OOS…hope these kids & their families aren’t about to drown themselves up to their eyeballs in debt.

The PP didn't fully explain. Yes, mostly poor and working class, but also some well off kids too. Have multiple friends with kids there.