Another pit bull attack

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Anonymous wrote:I own an American Staffordshire which is often confused for a pit bull. It’s an AKC bred dog who is capable of hurting a child, adult or another animal just like any other dog.
She’s dog reactive much like our previous black Labrador which means we have to keep her on a leash and behind a privacy fence.
She’s a wonderful family dog who will never be left alone with a young child, just like our black lab.
This is a similar argument to gun control and how guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
“pit bulls” kill people when given the chance or worse when someone thinks having their screeching toddler curled up with it is a good idea.
Shelters are FULL of “pit bulls” and are the most euthanized dog. It’s unintended litters if dogs, dumped bait dogs and breed restrictions on housing which means more surrendered pets.
If you want a nice, rescue Beagle, it would take me a long time to find one. You want a pit mix which is super cute and has an unknown background? I can get you three by tomorrow.
Rescues spend time and money on behavioral tests and contrary to this thread, reputable shelters do not adopt out bite risks. They euthanize more dogs that the public even realizes.
It’s ignorant to believe that euthanizing all “pit bulls” or implementing breed bans will stop all attacks. Before this breed, it was Dobermans or Rottweilers.
Responsible ownership and sensible euthanizing of dogs proven to be unable to reside in a home. You can’t adopt out all dogs. Not all of them will be happy ever after.
The shelters have had a horrible year and are overflowing with breeds of all types but pit mixes are obviously the most prevalent because they are most popular in cities and most likely to have unintended litters that way.
I don’t believe anyone is going to read this and think that suddenly they are wrong for pushing to kill all pit bulls. I have an AmStaff and I wouldn’t recommend anyone own one who hasn’t owned a strong willed dog before. If you lined her up next to a boxer or an American pit bull, I’m pretty sure the majority of people wouldn’t be able to pick out the pit bull versus the boxer.

I know that euthanizing pit bulls would stop all pit bull attacks. But you bring up a good point, in that I’d throw your Staffy breed in there as well. Combination of euthanizing and breed bans, let’s get rid of these monstrous dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of all these posts? Is this going to solve any problems? Why pick on dogs that have some "pit bull" in them? What is your agenda? Is it trying to convince people that they should be banned? All euthanized? Because you are only convincing the people who agree with you.

Why not start a thread on the dangers of swimming pools? Or the dangers of guns in schools?

Are you just going to keep posting these stories forever??? According to you all if pit bulls are soo dangerous everyone of us would have been mauled or know someone has been mauled. Being mauled is very rare despite how many times you post. And since we don't know the dna of this dog we have no idea if it was an American pit bull terrier.

I think that’s the hope of the people who love pit bulls, but tides are turning. People can see through the pro-pit propaganda.

Exactly. These threads will come up in someone’s search results or cross someone’s radar browsing DCUM. A lot of these dogs end up in homes with families who are just looking to adopt a shelter dog and either don’t understand what they’re getting themselves into or have been lied to by the “sweet little pibble nanny dog” lobby.

Maybe if these people remember all these stories of young children being brutally killed and maimed without provocation, fewer people will be willing to take chances on adopting these dogs.

Obviously the hardcore pit bull apologists aren’t going to be moved by a child dying from an attack, but maybe the more reasonable readers who are just starting out researching dog breeds will come across this.

I am the pp. First of all, rescue organizations are very clear about providing homes for ALL dogs to the right family. The shelters will not let a family adopt if a dog that needs to be the solo dog and you have another dog or likes to chase cats and you have cats. They state very clearly which dog needs adult only environment. So your facts are very incorrect.

The fact that you people ignore that "pit bulls" are the most abused animals currently makes a difference in how they are going to react to people. Unfortunately those who are "tough guys" want dogs with tough reputations and therefore the circle continues.

Second, Pit bulls are not just one breed so it is unfair to compare them to purebred dogs. We have no idea what part of the dog makes them attack. If a dog has any pit than they will say "pit bull attack' even when the dog maybe on five percent or so. Our society likes to sell trauma porn. And leading with the title "pit bull mix attacks" sells.

https://www.sneedmitchell.com/post/dog-bite-facts-statistics Second most popular dogs to bite is Labrador retrivers!

Unfortunately, children are more likely to be bitten by dogs for a variety of reasons and because they are smaller it is more deadly. Of course, this is a tradegy but, for the most part it can be prevented and I blame the adults humans in charge, not the dogs.

https://donaldsonlaw.com/why-children-are-more-at-risk-for-dog-bites-than-adults/#:~:text=Because%20of%20a%20child's%20size,the%20American%20Veterinary%20Medical%20Association.

have my facts just right. In fact I have a shelter dog and have volunteered with foster dogs. The shelters do they best they can to match dogs with families, but the fact these dogs are unpredictable means they can’t for sure say which dogs will end up crawling under a fence and eating a toddler’s face off next door. Maybe some of these shelters/rescues need to get their pants sued off so they decide to no longer take these risks in adopting out these dogs.

Also, no one is calling a dog with 5% pit a pitbull mix. There’s usually photos of the dogs accompanied with the articles and we can all see with our own eyes the dogs attacking are clearly the ones with obvious bully breed/terrier characteristics. The only thing “unfair” is letting idiots bring these dogs into neighborhoods and letting them maul unsuspecting innocents.

To your next point, labs aren’t killing people by and large. Stop obfuscating with irrelevant facts. The fact you’d compare bites that maybe need stitches to kids getting their faces ripped off shows just how overboard you are defending these monster creatures.

And no, these attacks can’t mostly be prevented when these dogs are digging under fences to grab the neighborhood kids or biting without a warning sign like other dogs give. Nice job victim blaming though. I’m sure those little babies in Nashville eaten by the “lion dogs” really had it coming to them. Also by your own admission, a$&holes like to own and abuse these dogs — so how do you avoid attacks in these situations?

Claps X1000 from a former shelter worker and current foster. We have a problem in rescue. And it's bully breeds. This is undeniable to anyone not fully in the cult.

To the former shelter worker and current foster, were the bully breeds being surrendered being purposefully bred? Or were they largely from unwanted/unplanned litters? Would free /heavily incentivized spay/neutering help? “Free neuter/spay and take a dog bed and bag of dog food home with you” for example. I realize that there are many low cost spay/neuter programs, but I have also seen Reddit posts where posters say they can’t afford even the low cost programs.

If people can’t afford spay/neuter then they have no business owning pets.

That’s a common view, but obviously it doesn’t solve anything. You can also argue that we should abolish WIC because people who can’t afford formula and diapers should have babies. Not helpful.

Pets are not human babies. Stupid comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of all these posts? Is this going to solve any problems? Why pick on dogs that have some "pit bull" in them? What is your agenda? Is it trying to convince people that they should be banned? All euthanized? Because you are only convincing the people who agree with you.

Why not start a thread on the dangers of swimming pools? Or the dangers of guns in schools?

Are you just going to keep posting these stories forever??? According to you all if pit bulls are soo dangerous everyone of us would have been mauled or know someone has been mauled. Being mauled is very rare despite how many times you post. And since we don't know the dna of this dog we have no idea if it was an American pit bull terrier.

I think that’s the hope of the people who love pit bulls, but tides are turning. People can see through the pro-pit propaganda.

Exactly. These threads will come up in someone’s search results or cross someone’s radar browsing DCUM. A lot of these dogs end up in homes with families who are just looking to adopt a shelter dog and either don’t understand what they’re getting themselves into or have been lied to by the “sweet little pibble nanny dog” lobby.

Maybe if these people remember all these stories of young children being brutally killed and maimed without provocation, fewer people will be willing to take chances on adopting these dogs.

Obviously the hardcore pit bull apologists aren’t going to be moved by a child dying from an attack, but maybe the more reasonable readers who are just starting out researching dog breeds will come across this.

I am the pp. First of all, rescue organizations are very clear about providing homes for ALL dogs to the right family. The shelters will not let a family adopt if a dog that needs to be the solo dog and you have another dog or likes to chase cats and you have cats. They state very clearly which dog needs adult only environment. So your facts are very incorrect.

The fact that you people ignore that "pit bulls" are the most abused animals currently makes a difference in how they are going to react to people. Unfortunately those who are "tough guys" want dogs with tough reputations and therefore the circle continues.

Second, Pit bulls are not just one breed so it is unfair to compare them to purebred dogs. We have no idea what part of the dog makes them attack. If a dog has any pit than they will say "pit bull attack' even when the dog maybe on five percent or so. Our society likes to sell trauma porn. And leading with the title "pit bull mix attacks" sells.

https://www.sneedmitchell.com/post/dog-bite-facts-statistics Second most popular dogs to bite is Labrador retrivers!

Unfortunately, children are more likely to be bitten by dogs for a variety of reasons and because they are smaller it is more deadly. Of course, this is a tradegy but, for the most part it can be prevented and I blame the adults humans in charge, not the dogs.

https://donaldsonlaw.com/why-children-are-more-at-risk-for-dog-bites-than-adults/#:~:text=Because%20of%20a%20child's%20size,the%20American%20Veterinary%20Medical%20Association.

have my facts just right. In fact I have a shelter dog and have volunteered with foster dogs. The shelters do they best they can to match dogs with families, but the fact these dogs are unpredictable means they can’t for sure say which dogs will end up crawling under a fence and eating a toddler’s face off next door. Maybe some of these shelters/rescues need to get their pants sued off so they decide to no longer take these risks in adopting out these dogs.

Also, no one is calling a dog with 5% pit a pitbull mix. There’s usually photos of the dogs accompanied with the articles and we can all see with our own eyes the dogs attacking are clearly the ones with obvious bully breed/terrier characteristics. The only thing “unfair” is letting idiots bring these dogs into neighborhoods and letting them maul unsuspecting innocents.

To your next point, labs aren’t killing people by and large. Stop obfuscating with irrelevant facts. The fact you’d compare bites that maybe need stitches to kids getting their faces ripped off shows just how overboard you are defending these monster creatures.

And no, these attacks can’t mostly be prevented when these dogs are digging under fences to grab the neighborhood kids or biting without a warning sign like other dogs give. Nice job victim blaming though. I’m sure those little babies in Nashville eaten by the “lion dogs” really had it coming to them. Also by your own admission, a$&holes like to own and abuse these dogs — so how do you avoid attacks in these situations?

Claps X1000 from a former shelter worker and current foster. We have a problem in rescue. And it's bully breeds. This is undeniable to anyone not fully in the cult.

To the former shelter worker and current foster, were the bully breeds being surrendered being purposefully bred? Or were they largely from unwanted/unplanned litters? Would free /heavily incentivized spay/neutering help? “Free neuter/spay and take a dog bed and bag of dog food home with you” for example. I realize that there are many low cost spay/neuter programs, but I have also seen Reddit posts where posters say they can’t afford even the low cost programs.

If people can’t afford spay/neuter then they have no business owning pets.

That’s a common view, but obviously it doesn’t solve anything. You can also argue that we should abolish WIC because people who can’t afford formula and diapers should have babies. Not helpful.

Pets are not human babies. Stupid comparison.

Actually, Saying that people who can’t afford to spay/neuter shouldn’t have pets is stupid. There is no law against being poor and having a pet. Is that what you are suggesting?

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I read a good article that basically pointed out that pit bulls were bred to fight other large animals. It’s the breed. Leaving a pit bull alone with another dog or taking a pit bull that you can’t restrain where other animals or children are at is always a risk. Pit bulls that are closer in generation to fighting dogs will have more dog aggression. When you adopt from a shelter , you and the rescue have no idea , how close or far away that pit is to fighters.

It also pointed out that people make the mistake thinking that raising a pit bull from a puppy will protect against this. It doesn’t as the animal aggression emerges at maturity. A perfectly well socialized pit bull puppy can quickly turn aggressive when it matures. When people say my sweet pit just snapped , it didn’t snap, its breed trait just emerged at maturity.

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Anonymous wrote:I read a good article that basically pointed out that pit bulls were bred to fight other large animals. It’s the breed. Leaving a pit bull alone with another dog or taking a pit bull that you can’t restrain where other animals or children are at is always a risk. Pit bulls that are closer in generation to fighting dogs will have more dog aggression. When you adopt from a shelter , you and the rescue have no idea , how close or far away that pit is to fighters.

It also pointed out that people make the mistake thinking that raising a pit bull from a puppy will protect against this. It doesn’t as the animal aggression emerges at maturity. A perfectly well socialized pit bull puppy can quickly turn aggressive when it matures. When people say my sweet pit just snapped , it didn’t snap, its breed trait just emerged at maturity.

It's why they call 2 years the "magic age." It's when they're becoming adults and fulfilling their breed purpose.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of all these posts? Is this going to solve any problems? Why pick on dogs that have some "pit bull" in them? What is your agenda? Is it trying to convince people that they should be banned? All euthanized? Because you are only convincing the people who agree with you.

Why not start a thread on the dangers of swimming pools? Or the dangers of guns in schools?

Are you just going to keep posting these stories forever??? According to you all if pit bulls are soo dangerous everyone of us would have been mauled or know someone has been mauled. Being mauled is very rare despite how many times you post. And since we don't know the dna of this dog we have no idea if it was an American pit bull terrier.

I think that’s the hope of the people who love pit bulls, but tides are turning. People can see through the pro-pit propaganda.

Exactly. These threads will come up in someone’s search results or cross someone’s radar browsing DCUM. A lot of these dogs end up in homes with families who are just looking to adopt a shelter dog and either don’t understand what they’re getting themselves into or have been lied to by the “sweet little pibble nanny dog” lobby.

Maybe if these people remember all these stories of young children being brutally killed and maimed without provocation, fewer people will be willing to take chances on adopting these dogs.

Obviously the hardcore pit bull apologists aren’t going to be moved by a child dying from an attack, but maybe the more reasonable readers who are just starting out researching dog breeds will come across this.

I am the pp. First of all, rescue organizations are very clear about providing homes for ALL dogs to the right family. The shelters will not let a family adopt if a dog that needs to be the solo dog and you have another dog or likes to chase cats and you have cats. They state very clearly which dog needs adult only environment. So your facts are very incorrect.

The fact that you people ignore that "pit bulls" are the most abused animals currently makes a difference in how they are going to react to people. Unfortunately those who are "tough guys" want dogs with tough reputations and therefore the circle continues.

Second, Pit bulls are not just one breed so it is unfair to compare them to purebred dogs. We have no idea what part of the dog makes them attack. If a dog has any pit than they will say "pit bull attack' even when the dog maybe on five percent or so. Our society likes to sell trauma porn. And leading with the title "pit bull mix attacks" sells.

https://www.sneedmitchell.com/post/dog-bite-facts-statistics Second most popular dogs to bite is Labrador retrivers!

Unfortunately, children are more likely to be bitten by dogs for a variety of reasons and because they are smaller it is more deadly. Of course, this is a tradegy but, for the most part it can be prevented and I blame the adults humans in charge, not the dogs.

https://donaldsonlaw.com/why-children-are-more-at-risk-for-dog-bites-than-adults/#:~:text=Because%20of%20a%20child's%20size,the%20American%20Veterinary%20Medical%20Association.

have my facts just right. In fact I have a shelter dog and have volunteered with foster dogs. The shelters do they best they can to match dogs with families, but the fact these dogs are unpredictable means they can’t for sure say which dogs will end up crawling under a fence and eating a toddler’s face off next door. Maybe some of these shelters/rescues need to get their pants sued off so they decide to no longer take these risks in adopting out these dogs.

Also, no one is calling a dog with 5% pit a pitbull mix. There’s usually photos of the dogs accompanied with the articles and we can all see with our own eyes the dogs attacking are clearly the ones with obvious bully breed/terrier characteristics. The only thing “unfair” is letting idiots bring these dogs into neighborhoods and letting them maul unsuspecting innocents.

To your next point, labs aren’t killing people by and large. Stop obfuscating with irrelevant facts. The fact you’d compare bites that maybe need stitches to kids getting their faces ripped off shows just how overboard you are defending these monster creatures.

And no, these attacks can’t mostly be prevented when these dogs are digging under fences to grab the neighborhood kids or biting without a warning sign like other dogs give. Nice job victim blaming though. I’m sure those little babies in Nashville eaten by the “lion dogs” really had it coming to them. Also by your own admission, a$&holes like to own and abuse these dogs — so how do you avoid attacks in these situations?

Claps X1000 from a former shelter worker and current foster. We have a problem in rescue. And it's bully breeds. This is undeniable to anyone not fully in the cult.

To the former shelter worker and current foster, were the bully breeds being surrendered being purposefully bred? Or were they largely from unwanted/unplanned litters? Would free /heavily incentivized spay/neutering help? “Free neuter/spay and take a dog bed and bag of dog food home with you” for example. I realize that there are many low cost spay/neuter programs, but I have also seen Reddit posts where posters say they can’t afford even the low cost programs.

If people can’t afford spay/neuter then they have no business owning pets.

That’s a common view, but obviously it doesn’t solve anything. You can also argue that we should abolish WIC because people who can’t afford formula and diapers should have babies. Not helpful.

Pets are not human babies. Stupid comparison.

Actually, Saying that people who can’t afford to spay/neuter shouldn’t have pets is stupid. There is no law against being poor and having a pet. Is that what you are suggesting?

If you’re too poor to feed yourself then you shouldn’t have a pet. That’s exactly what I’m suggesting. These are the first dogs that get dumped at shelters when the slightest medical/living situation arises. Pet ownership is a luxury unless you plan to treat them like disposable objects.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of all these posts? Is this going to solve any problems? Why pick on dogs that have some "pit bull" in them? What is your agenda? Is it trying to convince people that they should be banned? All euthanized? Because you are only convincing the people who agree with you.

Why not start a thread on the dangers of swimming pools? Or the dangers of guns in schools?

Are you just going to keep posting these stories forever??? According to you all if pit bulls are soo dangerous everyone of us would have been mauled or know someone has been mauled. Being mauled is very rare despite how many times you post. And since we don't know the dna of this dog we have no idea if it was an American pit bull terrier.

I think that’s the hope of the people who love pit bulls, but tides are turning. People can see through the pro-pit propaganda.

Exactly. These threads will come up in someone’s search results or cross someone’s radar browsing DCUM. A lot of these dogs end up in homes with families who are just looking to adopt a shelter dog and either don’t understand what they’re getting themselves into or have been lied to by the “sweet little pibble nanny dog” lobby.

Maybe if these people remember all these stories of young children being brutally killed and maimed without provocation, fewer people will be willing to take chances on adopting these dogs.

Obviously the hardcore pit bull apologists aren’t going to be moved by a child dying from an attack, but maybe the more reasonable readers who are just starting out researching dog breeds will come across this.

I am the pp. First of all, rescue organizations are very clear about providing homes for ALL dogs to the right family. The shelters will not let a family adopt if a dog that needs to be the solo dog and you have another dog or likes to chase cats and you have cats. They state very clearly which dog needs adult only environment. So your facts are very incorrect.

The fact that you people ignore that "pit bulls" are the most abused animals currently makes a difference in how they are going to react to people. Unfortunately those who are "tough guys" want dogs with tough reputations and therefore the circle continues.

Second, Pit bulls are not just one breed so it is unfair to compare them to purebred dogs. We have no idea what part of the dog makes them attack. If a dog has any pit than they will say "pit bull attack' even when the dog maybe on five percent or so. Our society likes to sell trauma porn. And leading with the title "pit bull mix attacks" sells.

https://www.sneedmitchell.com/post/dog-bite-facts-statistics Second most popular dogs to bite is Labrador retrivers!

Unfortunately, children are more likely to be bitten by dogs for a variety of reasons and because they are smaller it is more deadly. Of course, this is a tradegy but, for the most part it can be prevented and I blame the adults humans in charge, not the dogs.

https://donaldsonlaw.com/why-children-are-more-at-risk-for-dog-bites-than-adults/#:~:text=Because%20of%20a%20child's%20size,the%20American%20Veterinary%20Medical%20Association.

have my facts just right. In fact I have a shelter dog and have volunteered with foster dogs. The shelters do they best they can to match dogs with families, but the fact these dogs are unpredictable means they can’t for sure say which dogs will end up crawling under a fence and eating a toddler’s face off next door. Maybe some of these shelters/rescues need to get their pants sued off so they decide to no longer take these risks in adopting out these dogs.

Also, no one is calling a dog with 5% pit a pitbull mix. There’s usually photos of the dogs accompanied with the articles and we can all see with our own eyes the dogs attacking are clearly the ones with obvious bully breed/terrier characteristics. The only thing “unfair” is letting idiots bring these dogs into neighborhoods and letting them maul unsuspecting innocents.

To your next point, labs aren’t killing people by and large. Stop obfuscating with irrelevant facts. The fact you’d compare bites that maybe need stitches to kids getting their faces ripped off shows just how overboard you are defending these monster creatures.

And no, these attacks can’t mostly be prevented when these dogs are digging under fences to grab the neighborhood kids or biting without a warning sign like other dogs give. Nice job victim blaming though. I’m sure those little babies in Nashville eaten by the “lion dogs” really had it coming to them. Also by your own admission, a$&holes like to own and abuse these dogs — so how do you avoid attacks in these situations?

Claps X1000 from a former shelter worker and current foster. We have a problem in rescue. And it's bully breeds. This is undeniable to anyone not fully in the cult.

To the former shelter worker and current foster, were the bully breeds being surrendered being purposefully bred? Or were they largely from unwanted/unplanned litters? Would free /heavily incentivized spay/neutering help? “Free neuter/spay and take a dog bed and bag of dog food home with you” for example. I realize that there are many low cost spay/neuter programs, but I have also seen Reddit posts where posters say they can’t afford even the low cost programs.

If people can’t afford spay/neuter then they have no business owning pets.

That’s a common view, but obviously it doesn’t solve anything. You can also argue that we should abolish WIC because people who can’t afford formula and diapers should have babies. Not helpful.

Pets are not human babies. Stupid comparison.

Actually, Saying that people who can’t afford to spay/neuter shouldn’t have pets is stupid. There is no law against being poor and having a pet. Is that what you are suggesting?

If you’re too poor to feed yourself then you shouldn’t have a pet. That’s exactly what I’m suggesting. These are the first dogs that get dumped at shelters when the slightest medical/living situation arises. Pet ownership is a luxury unless you plan to treat them like disposable objects.

Thanks Granny, but that’s still not helpful. It’s easy to sit back and shoot down ideas without offering anything constructive. People should also not drive cars without car insurance, people should not live in flood prone areas without flood insurance, people should not go into credit card debt. Any other gems to offer?

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of all these posts? Is this going to solve any problems? Why pick on dogs that have some "pit bull" in them? What is your agenda? Is it trying to convince people that they should be banned? All euthanized? Because you are only convincing the people who agree with you.

Why not start a thread on the dangers of swimming pools? Or the dangers of guns in schools?

Are you just going to keep posting these stories forever??? According to you all if pit bulls are soo dangerous everyone of us would have been mauled or know someone has been mauled. Being mauled is very rare despite how many times you post. And since we don't know the dna of this dog we have no idea if it was an American pit bull terrier.

WTH is wrong with you? Why do you insist on keeping a MONSTER as a “pet”? I wouldn’t care quite so much if these stupid animals only ever attacked their idiot owners, but children and innocent neighbors are just as likely to be gruesomely killed or horrifically and life-alteringly injured.

There is ZERO reason for anyone own a pit bull. They should all be neutered and the breed banned.

My dog is lovable and amazing!

All pits are “lovable and amazing” until suddenly one second they’re not.

Wrong! Show how ignorant you are. A dog gives warnings and people are not smart enough to know them.

I'm a trainer. This is actually so ignorant of you. The bull baiters are unique in that they don't always give warning. I mean, sometimes they do like all these meth head morons throwing their infants into a sea of pits with whale eyes, but...they're not reliable like other dogs on that.

And if people aren't smart enough? Good! That means only the most smart and educated owners should have them, no? Not hand them out like free candy to any dumb Tom, Dick and Jane.

Just because you say "I'm a trainer" ia meaningless. Anyone can say that since it is highly unregulated.

Pit bulls do give warnings. As do all dogs. The fact that you say they dont says everything I need to know about your "expertise". Most people shouldnt own dogs because most people are lazy.

I think it's hysterical that someone thinks it's ok to have an animal among humans, around kids even, that is capable of this level of undeserved destruction EVEN IF they give a warning first lol. That mindset is truly insane. NONE of the kids that are maimed or killed deserved it, even if they had ignored a "warning". NONE of them

That is not what I am saying. You are saying they don't give warning. But they do. It is up to the adult human to bring the right animal into your home. No where did I say kids or anyone deserves to be mauled.

There are many different scenerios when dogs bite. I can say that for the most part humans are in denial about their dogs. I saw two kids trying to ride on a golden. Now ususlly they hsve good temperments but even those dogs get tired of bring mistreated. Now take a do that has fear or anxiety and it could be much worse.

But, people should understand the risk of living with a dog. Get a fish if you arent up to the care and management of a dog.

Humans are the problem, not the dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of all these posts? Is this going to solve any problems? Why pick on dogs that have some "pit bull" in them? What is your agenda? Is it trying to convince people that they should be banned? All euthanized? Because you are only convincing the people who agree with you.

Why not start a thread on the dangers of swimming pools? Or the dangers of guns in schools?

Are you just going to keep posting these stories forever??? According to you all if pit bulls are soo dangerous everyone of us would have been mauled or know someone has been mauled. Being mauled is very rare despite how many times you post. And since we don't know the dna of this dog we have no idea if it was an American pit bull terrier.

I think that’s the hope of the people who love pit bulls, but tides are turning. People can see through the pro-pit propaganda.

Exactly. These threads will come up in someone’s search results or cross someone’s radar browsing DCUM. A lot of these dogs end up in homes with families who are just looking to adopt a shelter dog and either don’t understand what they’re getting themselves into or have been lied to by the “sweet little pibble nanny dog” lobby.

Maybe if these people remember all these stories of young children being brutally killed and maimed without provocation, fewer people will be willing to take chances on adopting these dogs.

Obviously the hardcore pit bull apologists aren’t going to be moved by a child dying from an attack, but maybe the more reasonable readers who are just starting out researching dog breeds will come across this.

I am the pp. First of all, rescue organizations are very clear about providing homes for ALL dogs to the right family. The shelters will not let a family adopt if a dog that needs to be the solo dog and you have another dog or likes to chase cats and you have cats. They state very clearly which dog needs adult only environment. So your facts are very incorrect.

The fact that you people ignore that "pit bulls" are the most abused animals currently makes a difference in how they are going to react to people. Unfortunately those who are "tough guys" want dogs with tough reputations and therefore the circle continues.

Second, Pit bulls are not just one breed so it is unfair to compare them to purebred dogs. We have no idea what part of the dog makes them attack. If a dog has any pit than they will say "pit bull attack' even when the dog maybe on five percent or so. Our society likes to sell trauma porn. And leading with the title "pit bull mix attacks" sells.

https://www.sneedmitchell.com/post/dog-bite-facts-statistics Second most popular dogs to bite is Labrador retrivers!

Unfortunately, children are more likely to be bitten by dogs for a variety of reasons and because they are smaller it is more deadly. Of course, this is a tradegy but, for the most part it can be prevented and I blame the adults humans in charge, not the dogs.

https://donaldsonlaw.com/why-children-are-more-at-risk-for-dog-bites-than-adults/#:~:text=Because%20of%20a%20child's%20size,the%20American%20Veterinary%20Medical%20Association.

have my facts just right. In fact I have a shelter dog and have volunteered with foster dogs. The shelters do they best they can to match dogs with families, but the fact these dogs are unpredictable means they can’t for sure say which dogs will end up crawling under a fence and eating a toddler’s face off next door. Maybe some of these shelters/rescues need to get their pants sued off so they decide to no longer take these risks in adopting out these dogs.

Also, no one is calling a dog with 5% pit a pitbull mix. There’s usually photos of the dogs accompanied with the articles and we can all see with our own eyes the dogs attacking are clearly the ones with obvious bully breed/terrier characteristics. The only thing “unfair” is letting idiots bring these dogs into neighborhoods and letting them maul unsuspecting innocents.

To your next point, labs aren’t killing people by and large. Stop obfuscating with irrelevant facts. The fact you’d compare bites that maybe need stitches to kids getting their faces ripped off shows just how overboard you are defending these monster creatures.

And no, these attacks can’t mostly be prevented when these dogs are digging under fences to grab the neighborhood kids or biting without a warning sign like other dogs give. Nice job victim blaming though. I’m sure those little babies in Nashville eaten by the “lion dogs” really had it coming to them. Also by your own admission, a$&holes like to own and abuse these dogs — so how do you avoid attacks in these situations?

Claps X1000 from a former shelter worker and current foster. We have a problem in rescue. And it's bully breeds. This is undeniable to anyone not fully in the cult.

I think the worst part is when shelters and rescues keep adopting out dogs with known aggression and bite histories and keeping that information secret from the adopting families. That is not safe or appropriate.

Name your shelter that does this. Every orgainization that I know is very upfront. You do know most pit bulls are put to sleep? The rescues in this area are very clear. They do not hide anything.

Do you know why most pit bulls are put to sleep? Because there are so freaking many of them. Along with being bred to be game and a willingness to ignore pain and fight to the death, they were bred for huge litters. Fully 80% of pit bulls are unfixed. Strays, strays everywhere, all of them pits.

Thr majority of pit mixes are not bred for anything! Ignorant people don't spay and neuter and allow them to breed. The days of bull fighting specifically hasn't exsisted in a long time.

They are put to sleep because of people like you spreading fear and hatred

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Anonymous wrote:I read a good article that basically pointed out that pit bulls were bred to fight other large animals. It’s the breed. Leaving a pit bull alone with another dog or taking a pit bull that you can’t restrain where other animals or children are at is always a risk. Pit bulls that are closer in generation to fighting dogs will have more dog aggression. When you adopt from a shelter , you and the rescue have no idea , how close or far away that pit is to fighters.

It also pointed out that people make the mistake thinking that raising a pit bull from a puppy will protect against this. It doesn’t as the animal aggression emerges at maturity. A perfectly well socialized pit bull puppy can quickly turn aggressive when it matures. When people say my sweet pit just snapped , it didn’t snap, its breed trait just emerged at maturity.

It's why they call 2 years the "magic age." It's when they're becoming adults and fulfilling their breed purpose.

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Anonymous wrote:I own an American Staffordshire which is often confused for a pit bull. It’s an AKC bred dog who is capable of hurting a child, adult or another animal just like any other dog.
She’s dog reactive much like our previous black Labrador which means we have to keep her on a leash and behind a privacy fence.
She’s a wonderful family dog who will never be left alone with a young child, just like our black lab.
This is a similar argument to gun control and how guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
“pit bulls” kill people when given the chance or worse when someone thinks having their screeching toddler curled up with it is a good idea.
Shelters are FULL of “pit bulls” and are the most euthanized dog. It’s unintended litters if dogs, dumped bait dogs and breed restrictions on housing which means more surrendered pets.
If you want a nice, rescue Beagle, it would take me a long time to find one. You want a pit mix which is super cute and has an unknown background? I can get you three by tomorrow.
Rescues spend time and money on behavioral tests and contrary to this thread, reputable shelters do not adopt out bite risks. They euthanize more dogs that the public even realizes.
It’s ignorant to believe that euthanizing all “pit bulls” or implementing breed bans will stop all attacks. Before this breed, it was Dobermans or Rottweilers.
Responsible ownership and sensible euthanizing of dogs proven to be unable to reside in a home. You can’t adopt out all dogs. Not all of them will be happy ever after.
The shelters have had a horrible year and are overflowing with breeds of all types but pit mixes are obviously the most prevalent because they are most popular in cities and most likely to have unintended litters that way.
I don’t believe anyone is going to read this and think that suddenly they are wrong for pushing to kill all pit bulls. I have an AmStaff and I wouldn’t recommend anyone own one who hasn’t owned a strong willed dog before. If you lined her up next to a boxer or an American pit bull, I’m pretty sure the majority of people wouldn’t be able to pick out the pit bull versus the boxer.

I know that euthanizing pit bulls would stop all pit bull attacks. But you bring up a good point, in that I’d throw your Staffy breed in there as well. Combination of euthanizing and breed bans, let’s get rid of these monstrous dogs.

Pp I would rather get rid of you. Hope you havent bred because you will pass on your stupid genes.

To the ppp well said

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of all these posts? Is this going to solve any problems? Why pick on dogs that have some "pit bull" in them? What is your agenda? Is it trying to convince people that they should be banned? All euthanized? Because you are only convincing the people who agree with you.

Why not start a thread on the dangers of swimming pools? Or the dangers of guns in schools?

Are you just going to keep posting these stories forever??? According to you all if pit bulls are soo dangerous everyone of us would have been mauled or know someone has been mauled. Being mauled is very rare despite how many times you post. And since we don't know the dna of this dog we have no idea if it was an American pit bull terrier.

I think that’s the hope of the people who love pit bulls, but tides are turning. People can see through the pro-pit propaganda.

Exactly. These threads will come up in someone’s search results or cross someone’s radar browsing DCUM. A lot of these dogs end up in homes with families who are just looking to adopt a shelter dog and either don’t understand what they’re getting themselves into or have been lied to by the “sweet little pibble nanny dog” lobby.

Maybe if these people remember all these stories of young children being brutally killed and maimed without provocation, fewer people will be willing to take chances on adopting these dogs.

Obviously the hardcore pit bull apologists aren’t going to be moved by a child dying from an attack, but maybe the more reasonable readers who are just starting out researching dog breeds will come across this.

I am the pp. First of all, rescue organizations are very clear about providing homes for ALL dogs to the right family. The shelters will not let a family adopt if a dog that needs to be the solo dog and you have another dog or likes to chase cats and you have cats. They state very clearly which dog needs adult only environment. So your facts are very incorrect.

The fact that you people ignore that "pit bulls" are the most abused animals currently makes a difference in how they are going to react to people. Unfortunately those who are "tough guys" want dogs with tough reputations and therefore the circle continues.

Second, Pit bulls are not just one breed so it is unfair to compare them to purebred dogs. We have no idea what part of the dog makes them attack. If a dog has any pit than they will say "pit bull attack' even when the dog maybe on five percent or so. Our society likes to sell trauma porn. And leading with the title "pit bull mix attacks" sells.

https://www.sneedmitchell.com/post/dog-bite-facts-statistics Second most popular dogs to bite is Labrador retrivers!

Unfortunately, children are more likely to be bitten by dogs for a variety of reasons and because they are smaller it is more deadly. Of course, this is a tradegy but, for the most part it can be prevented and I blame the adults humans in charge, not the dogs.

https://donaldsonlaw.com/why-children-are-more-at-risk-for-dog-bites-than-adults/#:~:text=Because%20of%20a%20child's%20size,the%20American%20Veterinary%20Medical%20Association.

have my facts just right. In fact I have a shelter dog and have volunteered with foster dogs. The shelters do they best they can to match dogs with families, but the fact these dogs are unpredictable means they can’t for sure say which dogs will end up crawling under a fence and eating a toddler’s face off next door. Maybe some of these shelters/rescues need to get their pants sued off so they decide to no longer take these risks in adopting out these dogs.

Also, no one is calling a dog with 5% pit a pitbull mix. There’s usually photos of the dogs accompanied with the articles and we can all see with our own eyes the dogs attacking are clearly the ones with obvious bully breed/terrier characteristics. The only thing “unfair” is letting idiots bring these dogs into neighborhoods and letting them maul unsuspecting innocents.

To your next point, labs aren’t killing people by and large. Stop obfuscating with irrelevant facts. The fact you’d compare bites that maybe need stitches to kids getting their faces ripped off shows just how overboard you are defending these monster creatures.

And no, these attacks can’t mostly be prevented when these dogs are digging under fences to grab the neighborhood kids or biting without a warning sign like other dogs give. Nice job victim blaming though. I’m sure those little babies in Nashville eaten by the “lion dogs” really had it coming to them. Also by your own admission, a$&holes like to own and abuse these dogs — so how do you avoid attacks in these situations?

Claps X1000 from a former shelter worker and current foster. We have a problem in rescue. And it's bully breeds. This is undeniable to anyone not fully in the cult.

To the former shelter worker and current foster, were the bully breeds being surrendered being purposefully bred? Or were they largely from unwanted/unplanned litters? Would free /heavily incentivized spay/neutering help? “Free neuter/spay and take a dog bed and bag of dog food home with you” for example. I realize that there are many low cost spay/neuter programs, but I have also seen Reddit posts where posters say they can’t afford even the low cost programs.

If people can’t afford spay/neuter then they have no business owning pets.

That’s a common view, but obviously it doesn’t solve anything. You can also argue that we should abolish WIC because people who can’t afford formula and diapers should have babies. Not helpful.

Pets are not human babies. Stupid comparison.

Actually, Saying that people who can’t afford to spay/neuter shouldn’t have pets is stupid. There is no law against being poor and having a pet. Is that what you are suggesting?

If you’re too poor to feed yourself then you shouldn’t have a pet. That’s exactly what I’m suggesting. These are the first dogs that get dumped at shelters when the slightest medical/living situation arises. Pet ownership is a luxury unless you plan to treat them like disposable objects.

Thanks Granny, but that’s still not helpful. It’s easy to sit back and shoot down ideas without offering anything constructive. People should also not drive cars without car insurance, people should not live in flood prone areas without flood insurance, people should not go into credit card debt. Any other gems to offer?

Yeah. Don’t whine that the shelter are full of pets when you’re cool with irresponsible owners.

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It's not the dog is the damm horrible owners. Most well cared for pits think they're lapdogs and don't show aggression.

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That’s not true. You know how we Al know that’s not true? Because so many of the dogs that have fatally mauled people have been raised perfectly. It’s the breed. You cannot take a dog bred for violence and expect it to act like a normal pet. Sometimes. Maybe.

But there are far too many dead people and animals because of pit bulls.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of all these posts? Is this going to solve any problems? Why pick on dogs that have some "pit bull" in them? What is your agenda? Is it trying to convince people that they should be banned? All euthanized? Because you are only convincing the people who agree with you.

Why not start a thread on the dangers of swimming pools? Or the dangers of guns in schools?

Are you just going to keep posting these stories forever??? According to you all if pit bulls are soo dangerous everyone of us would have been mauled or know someone has been mauled. Being mauled is very rare despite how many times you post. And since we don't know the dna of this dog we have no idea if it was an American pit bull terrier.

I think that’s the hope of the people who love pit bulls, but tides are turning. People can see through the pro-pit propaganda.

Exactly. These threads will come up in someone’s search results or cross someone’s radar browsing DCUM. A lot of these dogs end up in homes with families who are just looking to adopt a shelter dog and either don’t understand what they’re getting themselves into or have been lied to by the “sweet little pibble nanny dog” lobby.

Maybe if these people remember all these stories of young children being brutally killed and maimed without provocation, fewer people will be willing to take chances on adopting these dogs.

Obviously the hardcore pit bull apologists aren’t going to be moved by a child dying from an attack, but maybe the more reasonable readers who are just starting out researching dog breeds will come across this.

I am the pp. First of all, rescue organizations are very clear about providing homes for ALL dogs to the right family. The shelters will not let a family adopt if a dog that needs to be the solo dog and you have another dog or likes to chase cats and you have cats. They state very clearly which dog needs adult only environment. So your facts are very incorrect.

The fact that you people ignore that "pit bulls" are the most abused animals currently makes a difference in how they are going to react to people. Unfortunately those who are "tough guys" want dogs with tough reputations and therefore the circle continues.

Second, Pit bulls are not just one breed so it is unfair to compare them to purebred dogs. We have no idea what part of the dog makes them attack. If a dog has any pit than they will say "pit bull attack' even when the dog maybe on five percent or so. Our society likes to sell trauma porn. And leading with the title "pit bull mix attacks" sells.

https://www.sneedmitchell.com/post/dog-bite-facts-statistics Second most popular dogs to bite is Labrador retrivers!

Unfortunately, children are more likely to be bitten by dogs for a variety of reasons and because they are smaller it is more deadly. Of course, this is a tradegy but, for the most part it can be prevented and I blame the adults humans in charge, not the dogs.

https://donaldsonlaw.com/why-children-are-more-at-risk-for-dog-bites-than-adults/#:~:text=Because%20of%20a%20child's%20size,the%20American%20Veterinary%20Medical%20Association.

have my facts just right. In fact I have a shelter dog and have volunteered with foster dogs. The shelters do they best they can to match dogs with families, but the fact these dogs are unpredictable means they can’t for sure say which dogs will end up crawling under a fence and eating a toddler’s face off next door. Maybe some of these shelters/rescues need to get their pants sued off so they decide to no longer take these risks in adopting out these dogs.

Also, no one is calling a dog with 5% pit a pitbull mix. There’s usually photos of the dogs accompanied with the articles and we can all see with our own eyes the dogs attacking are clearly the ones with obvious bully breed/terrier characteristics. The only thing “unfair” is letting idiots bring these dogs into neighborhoods and letting them maul unsuspecting innocents.

To your next point, labs aren’t killing people by and large. Stop obfuscating with irrelevant facts. The fact you’d compare bites that maybe need stitches to kids getting their faces ripped off shows just how overboard you are defending these monster creatures.

And no, these attacks can’t mostly be prevented when these dogs are digging under fences to grab the neighborhood kids or biting without a warning sign like other dogs give. Nice job victim blaming though. I’m sure those little babies in Nashville eaten by the “lion dogs” really had it coming to them. Also by your own admission, a$&holes like to own and abuse these dogs — so how do you avoid attacks in these situations?

Claps X1000 from a former shelter worker and current foster. We have a problem in rescue. And it's bully breeds. This is undeniable to anyone not fully in the cult.

To the former shelter worker and current foster, were the bully breeds being surrendered being purposefully bred? Or were they largely from unwanted/unplanned litters? Would free /heavily incentivized spay/neutering help? “Free neuter/spay and take a dog bed and bag of dog food home with you” for example. I realize that there are many low cost spay/neuter programs, but I have also seen Reddit posts where posters say they can’t afford even the low cost programs.

If people can’t afford spay/neuter then they have no business owning pets.

That’s a common view, but obviously it doesn’t solve anything. You can also argue that we should abolish WIC because people who can’t afford formula and diapers should have babies. Not helpful.

Pets are not human babies. Stupid comparison.

Actually, Saying that people who can’t afford to spay/neuter shouldn’t have pets is stupid. There is no law against being poor and having a pet. Is that what you are suggesting?

dp There are low cost spay/neuter clinics but, ultimately that's life. If you can't afford a house, you live in an apartment. If you can't afford to feed yourself you shouldn't have a dog. You can't always get what you want in life. Didn't anyone teach you that? If you love animals you can always get a job working with dogs...but there is no "right to own a dog" It is a privileges just like going on vacations and living in a mansion.