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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I don’t understand how this individual did not get into UMD? What is going on?

what is the kid UW GPA? 50% mcps kid have weight gpa of 4.5 and above so that 4.6 may not be a good indicator? any C's on AP classes?

That’s untrue about the weighted gpa percentage.

Check for yourself (true with Churchill and WJ's only posted mcps not its own data):

Churchill's school profile: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EI5RAHMoBiE9q51Eh_NnwdvczscGFpcu/view

WJ's school profile: https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/wjhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/wj-profile-2022--2023.pdf

You proved me correct. It says 25% for the county on the Churchill profile. WJ is also 25%. The county is not 50%. That was a false statement. A couple schools are.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm hearing that some RMIB students did not get into UMD EA. That's somewhat shocking. I don't know what their stats are, though. Has anyone heard this, too?

Yes - they only take so many per high school

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I don’t understand how this individual did not get into UMD? What is going on?

what is the kid UW GPA? 50% mcps kid have weight gpa of 4.5 and above so that 4.6 may not be a good indicator? any C's on AP classes?

That’s untrue about the weighted gpa percentage.

Check for yourself (true with Churchill and WJ's only posted mcps not its own data):

Churchill's school profile: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EI5RAHMoBiE9q51Eh_NnwdvczscGFpcu/view

WJ's school profile: https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/wjhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/wj-profile-2022--2023.pdf

You proved me correct. It says 25% for the county on the Churchill profile. WJ is also 25%. The county is not 50%. That was a false statement. A couple schools are.

+1 a handful of schools in MCPS. The majority of high schools do not have out-of-control grade inflation because the teachers don't feel pressure to give A's.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

NP. Quit trolling PP. She never said anything to suggest she expected entry because of donations. She just shared that in her frustration, she is unlikely to donate and wants to tell the univ off. Perfectly normal reaction.

Stop trying to flame. Find something more constructive to do or say.

To the PP, it's a bummer. So sorry. Hope your kid will find a good in state alternative (St. M, UMBC?) or get some great merit elsewhere.

Is there really anything wrong with some legacy? Everybody knows money talks and bs walks plus legacy usually has more school spirit and in some doses adds to school prestige.

Did you create that moronic “why is legacy bad” thread weeks ago? Go back and read the replies. Legacy perpetuates historical racial and socio-economical discrimination.

Now you are the one for us to say, "come out of the Middle Ages, Grandma." I was admitted to an elite university 40 years ago and the class was 40% non-white. There are lots of legacy POC.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I don’t understand how this individual did not get into UMD? What is going on?

what is going on is that competition is getting more fierce. My very high stats kid got rejected at lower tiered schools while they got deferred at higher tiered school.

Seems like above a certain threshold, it's basically a lottery.

More applications, not more high stats competition.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I don’t understand how this individual did not get into UMD? What is going on?

Several possibilities:

1. Did not take AP exams or report 5s and 4s. For a high stats kid, admissions officers are going to wonder about their absence.

2. Note that MCPS weighs Honors the same as APs in the GPA, unlike some other school systems. Which means MCPS GPA can be inflated and all the colleges recalculate it - but perhaps for PP's kid with 11 APs, that's moot.

3. The personal statement did not show a clear direction and failed to directly reference UMD. Essays are VERY important for mid-level 30-50% acceptance rate colleges, most of which do "holistic" admissions and seek a diversity of student voices. They are deathly afraid of the high stats kid with a generic essay, because they immediately think "yield protection, this kid wants to go elsewhere". Make the college think they are your top choice, always. The Common App allows for a customize personal statement. Save your general statement elsewhere, then tweak it for each college before hitting submit.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

But colleges do want the in-state high-performing kids for stats BUT you assume that the majority of those kids will enroll and not go somewhere else. And by public universities, do you really mean flagships?

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

But colleges do want the in-state high-performing kids for stats BUT you assume that the majority of those kids will enroll and not go somewhere else. And by public universities, do you really mean flagships?

Yes, the flagship. But so what if they go somewhere else? There are plenty of kids who will be happy to take their spot on the waitlist.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

I agree to some extent but there are simply too many "high stat" kids esp when they allow skirting the SAT. And LOTS of those high stat kids want to study CS/Eng/Biz...If I were borderline, I might think about putting some random major as my prefernce. I bet it might help.

PP, sorry she was not accepted. lots of my son's classmates in the same boat, but just go to CC for a year, its no big deal.

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It’s ok, lot of high stat kids won’t accepted won’t go, they will take a lot from the WL

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Does UMD not evaluate on unweighted GPAs? This seems odd to me to use weighted GPAS as each district applies weights differently. Our school does not give any weight for honors and also since we moved during HS (military kid) he lost all the weighting from his first two years (FCPS). He got in direct admit to CS, but no honors, and I wonder if that could be why.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

Love the Hunger Games reference, PP! This is what UMD college admissions has come to!

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Anonymous wrote:Does UMD not evaluate on unweighted GPAs? This seems odd to me to use weighted GPAS as each district applies weights differently. Our school does not give any weight for honors and also since we moved during HS (military kid) he lost all the weighting from his first two years (FCPS). He got in direct admit to CS, but no honors, and I wonder if that could be why.

He got direct admit to CS? Congratulations. Don't see an issue here.