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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

I’d say that could have a positive effect of MCPS revamped its grading system to one that makes sense where not every kid gets an A. Bring back midterms and finals, use + and - in the grades, and don’t do the ridiculous averaging of A + B = A, and not everyone would have an identical and such a high gpa.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

Love the Hunger Games reference, PP! This is what UMD college admissions has come to!

A Big Ten school inside the beltway of the Nations Capital has driven people insane. My kid didn’t get in so went to Montgomery College, got straight A’s them was admitted as a transfer.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

When I look at the stats for the last two classes at my DCs high school, UMD does basically take the top 6%. Graduating class of 400, top 20 or so kids in the class (school ranks) got into UMD, outside of top 20 is where you saw the spring admits and rejections.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

Love the Hunger Games reference, PP! This is what UMD college admissions has come to!

A Big Ten school inside the beltway of the Nations Capital has driven people insane. My kid didn’t get in so went to Montgomery College, got straight A’s them was admitted as a transfer.

But the question is - why? Getting straight As at MC, where the majority of students required remedial education, does not prove your student's ability more than their high school AND they are cheated out of better quality during that time. UMD should have just have taken them in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm hearing that some RMIB students did not get into UMD EA. That's somewhat shocking. I don't know what their stats are, though. Has anyone heard this, too?

Yes - they only take so many per high school

But in previous years, I thought pretty much all RMIB kids who applied got in. Is it just that there are more quality applicants from all over?

I do think college admissions has become like the Hunger Games (to use a PP's reference).

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Anonymous wrote:I'm hearing that some RMIB students did not get into UMD EA. That's somewhat shocking. I don't know what their stats are, though. Has anyone heard this, too?

Yes - they only take so many per high school

But in previous years, I thought pretty much all RMIB kids who applied got in. Is it just that there are more quality applicants from all over?

I do think college admissions has become like the Hunger Games (to use a PP's reference).

It’s a number of things. A Big Ten school inside the Nations Capital beltway…the flagship of a highly educated state…no other great option like VT or Pitt in the state to compete with the flagship… top ten national public in research funding … the preppy lacrosse culture angle… the overall academic community with Big Ten UMD, Georgetown, Navy Annapolis, John’s Hopkins all in a 25 mile radius.. low cost in state tuition…the incredible alumni with world changing impact in culture/economy… Big Ten sports.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

Love the Hunger Games reference, PP! This is what UMD college admissions has come to!

A Big Ten school inside the beltway of the Nations Capital has driven people insane. My kid didn’t get in so went to Montgomery College, got straight A’s them was admitted as a transfer.

But the question is - why? Getting straight As at MC, where the majority of students required remedial education, does not prove your student's ability more than their high school AND they are cheated out of better quality during that time. UMD should have just have taken them in the first place.

Please stop with this - yes, there are students at MC that need remedial education, and there are classes for that. And there are plenty of students who take the regular classes (which are college-level, as MC is a college) and don't get A's. Plus, students who are looking to transfer can take their gen-ed requirements in smaller classes at MC than they would have at UMD. It's a great option for motivated students who don't happen to luck out in the UMD lottery and want to go there, as opposed to one of the other in state options.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

Love the Hunger Games reference, PP! This is what UMD college admissions has come to!

A Big Ten school inside the beltway of the Nations Capital has driven people insane. My kid didn’t get in so went to Montgomery College, got straight A’s them was admitted as a transfer.

But the question is - why? Getting straight As at MC, where the majority of students required remedial education, does not prove your student's ability more than their high school AND they are cheated out of better quality during that time. UMD should have just have taken them in the first place.

Please stop with this - yes, there are students at MC that need remedial education, and there are classes for that. And there are plenty of students who take the regular classes (which are college-level, as MC is a college) and don't get A's. Plus, students who are looking to transfer can take their gen-ed requirements in smaller classes at MC than they would have at UMD. It's a great option for motivated students who don't happen to luck out in the UMD lottery and want to go there, as opposed to one of the other in state options.

The problem with MC is that their more practical classes may be decent (labs, etc), but I'm not sure the strength of the student cohort is sufficient to power higher-level work in more abstract classes. So it really depends what you study at MC...

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

When I look at the stats for the last two classes at my DCs high school, UMD does basically take the top 6%. Graduating class of 400, top 20 or so kids in the class (school ranks) got into UMD, outside of top 20 is where you saw the spring admits and rejections.

How do you know which are spring admits? Are you looking at Naviance or elsewhere?

When I look at Naviance for my child’s school I see about 60 students admitted out of a class of around 400. And I assume some top students don’t apply (though I imagine most do).

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

Love the Hunger Games reference, PP! This is what UMD college admissions has come to!

A Big Ten school inside the beltway of the Nations Capital has driven people insane. My kid didn’t get in so went to Montgomery College, got straight A’s them was admitted as a transfer.

But the question is - why? Getting straight As at MC, where the majority of students required remedial education, does not prove your student's ability more than their high school AND they are cheated out of better quality during that time. UMD should have just have taken them in the first place.

She set her mind to it. Figured out another way. Saved me a lot of money. Couldn’t be more proud of her. College is about hardscrabble resilience for some people and life resilience is the payoff.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

Love the Hunger Games reference, PP! This is what UMD college admissions has come to!

A Big Ten school inside the beltway of the Nations Capital has driven people insane. My kid didn’t get in so went to Montgomery College, got straight A’s them was admitted as a transfer.

But the question is - why? Getting straight As at MC, where the majority of students required remedial education, does not prove your student's ability more than their high school AND they are cheated out of better quality during that time. UMD should have just have taken them in the first place.

I don't think that is necessarily true. Frankly, some intro/boilerplate classes at "real" colleges are best avoided because they are out to get you, or there is 150 people in the lecture or whatever. Some of those classes are merely meant to be endured. The upper level classes are where the expertise is important.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm hearing that some RMIB students did not get into UMD EA. That's somewhat shocking. I don't know what their stats are, though. Has anyone heard this, too?

Yes - they only take so many per high school

But in previous years, I thought pretty much all RMIB kids who applied got in. Is it just that there are more quality applicants from all over?

I do think college admissions has become like the Hunger Games (to use a PP's reference).

It’s a number of things. A Big Ten school inside the Nations Capital beltway…the flagship of a highly educated state…no other great option like VT or Pitt in the state to compete with the flagship… top ten national public in research funding … the preppy lacrosse culture angle… the overall academic community with Big Ten UMD, Georgetown, Navy Annapolis, John’s Hopkins all in a 25 mile radius.. low cost in state tuition…the incredible alumni with world changing impact in culture/economy… Big Ten sports.

Wow. When you put it like that, the only question is: why wasn't it selective before?

I don't know if this link has been posted before on this thread already (it has in other UMD threads), but the UMD acceptance rate went from 51% in Fall 2020 to 34% in Fall 2022. Since a small quarter of their freshman class is in Honors, it would put this year's Honors admit rate at about 8%. If the trend continues, UMD general admission will be more selective than UVA in the next two years.

https://www.irpa.umd.edu/CampusCounts/Admissions/apps_ug.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:I'm hearing that some RMIB students did not get into UMD EA. That's somewhat shocking. I don't know what their stats are, though. Has anyone heard this, too?

Yes - they only take so many per high school

But in previous years, I thought pretty much all RMIB kids who applied got in. Is it just that there are more quality applicants from all over?

I do think college admissions has become like the Hunger Games (to use a PP's reference).

It’s a number of things. A Big Ten school inside the Nations Capital beltway…the flagship of a highly educated state…no other great option like VT or Pitt in the state to compete with the flagship… top ten national public in research funding … the preppy lacrosse culture angle… the overall academic community with Big Ten UMD, Georgetown, Navy Annapolis, John’s Hopkins all in a 25 mile radius.. low cost in state tuition…the incredible alumni with world changing impact in culture/economy… Big Ten sports.

Wow. When you put it like that, the only question is: why wasn't it selective before?

I don't know if this link has been posted before on this thread already (it has in other UMD threads), but the UMD acceptance rate went from 51% in Fall 2020 to 34% in Fall 2022. Since a small quarter of their freshman class is in Honors, it would put this year's Honors admit rate at about 8%. If the trend continues, UMD general admission will be more selective than UVA in the next two years.

https://www.irpa.umd.edu/CampusCounts/Admissions/apps_ug.pdf

It’s been in the low 40s for a long time. That 51 percent must have had something to do with Covid.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I empathize. My kid had basically that same stats, except your ACT was better, and was denied. Ticks me off being an alum and now I'm going to have to shell out more money.

Think that I'll mention that fact the next time the University asks me for donations.

You are part of why legacy admissions won't die. If you only donated to give your kid legacy advantage, you are basically trying to buy your kid's way into college.

Didn't you know that UMD doesn't give a fig about legacy status? Didn't bother checking that out first before you tried to buy your kid's way in?

Listen, bub. I'm not a big firm lawyer, bank manager or GS-15. I'm a middle class (poor by DCUM standards) single parent. Every single dollar that I spend matters.

Now that in state tuition is off the table, I'm going to have adjust my retirement and life plans accordingly while trying to get my kid the best education possible.

This is not some bragging rights issue for me. It's a life impact issue.

I'm on your side PP. I think public universities should be obligated to take high stats, in-state students. Who cares about their "story"? Who cares about whether "they want to be there"? That is all ego on the part of the college, and if they want to use ego, they need to work at a private. In-state students who have innate intelligence or who have put in the work to score well should automatically be at the flagship. No questions asked. It benefits the taxpayers. It benefits the college to take the highest performing students.

IMO this wouldn’t work either because then Maryland would need to have a Texas style system where the top x percent are guaranteed from each high school. I think UT Austin is top 6% guaranteed. So could you imagine at some of these schools in Maryland where 25% of the class has 4.6 GPA what that would look like - it would be Hunger Games trying to get ahead for the guaranteed admission. We don’t have multiple universities where the typical high stats kids would want to attend (think UVA/VT/William and Mary) or UT Austin and TAMU) so you would still end up with high stats kids getting shut out of the state flagship/affordable option even under the guaranteed option.

Love the Hunger Games reference, PP! This is what UMD college admissions has come to!

A Big Ten school inside the beltway of the Nations Capital has driven people insane. My kid didn’t get in so went to Montgomery College, got straight A’s them was admitted as a transfer.

But the question is - why? Getting straight As at MC, where the majority of students required remedial education, does not prove your student's ability more than their high school AND they are cheated out of better quality during that time. UMD should have just have taken them in the first place.

Please stop with this - yes, there are students at MC that need remedial education, and there are classes for that. And there are plenty of students who take the regular classes (which are college-level, as MC is a college) and don't get A's. Plus, students who are looking to transfer can take their gen-ed requirements in smaller classes at MC than they would have at UMD. It's a great option for motivated students who don't happen to luck out in the UMD lottery and want to go there, as opposed to one of the other in state options.

The problem with MC is that their more practical classes may be decent (labs, etc), but I'm not sure the strength of the student cohort is sufficient to power higher-level work in more abstract classes. So it really depends what you study at MC...

Your resource for this information would be? Students doing 2 years at MC - getting good grades - transferring to UMD are highly sought after for the ENGR. Many of these students are going to Georgia Tech instead of UMD because of the caliber of their academics. So I do believe that MC is an excellent way to afford an education, get your general ed requires complete and finish out the Undergraduate degree at an institution like UMD or GA Tech.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm hearing that some RMIB students did not get into UMD EA. That's somewhat shocking. I don't know what their stats are, though. Has anyone heard this, too?

Yes - they only take so many per high school

But in previous years, I thought pretty much all RMIB kids who applied got in. Is it just that there are more quality applicants from all over?

I do think college admissions has become like the Hunger Games (to use a PP's reference).

It’s a number of things. A Big Ten school inside the Nations Capital beltway…the flagship of a highly educated state…no other great option like VT or Pitt in the state to compete with the flagship… top ten national public in research funding … the preppy lacrosse culture angle… the overall academic community with Big Ten UMD, Georgetown, Navy Annapolis, John’s Hopkins all in a 25 mile radius.. low cost in state tuition…the incredible alumni with world changing impact in culture/economy… Big Ten sports.

Wow. When you put it like that, the only question is: why wasn't it selective before?

I don't know if this link has been posted before on this thread already (it has in other UMD threads), but the UMD acceptance rate went from 51% in Fall 2020 to 34% in Fall 2022. Since a small quarter of their freshman class is in Honors, it would put this year's Honors admit rate at about 8%. If the trend continues, UMD general admission will be more selective than UVA in the next two years.

https://www.irpa.umd.edu/CampusCounts/Admissions/apps_ug.pdf

Current administration wants UMD to be like UCLA - a public ivy - so its only going to get more selective, well until the 2008 Financial cliff applications drop significantly and then they will have to re-consider how they get enough students to pay the bills.