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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I don’t understand how this individual did not get into UMD? What is going on?

Several possibilities:

1. Did not take AP exams or report 5s and 4s. For a high stats kid, admissions officers are going to wonder about their absence.

2. Note that MCPS weighs Honors the same as APs in the GPA, unlike some other school systems. Which means MCPS GPA can be inflated and all the colleges recalculate it - but perhaps for PP's kid with 11 APs, that's moot.

3. The personal statement did not show a clear direction and failed to directly reference UMD. Essays are VERY important for mid-level 30-50% acceptance rate colleges, most of which do "holistic" admissions and seek a diversity of student voices. They are deathly afraid of the high stats kid with a generic essay, because they immediately think "yield protection, this kid wants to go elsewhere". Make the college think they are your top choice, always. The Common App allows for a customize personal statement. Save your general statement elsewhere, then tweak it for each college before hitting submit.

Unless it’s new this year, UMD does not yield protect. Look at Scattergrams. I would guess one of the following: the parent meant they were not accepted into a competitive program (but still admitted to university), that the student completely blew off the sentences, there was something unseemly or incomplete in the application, that student intentionally tanked application, that it’s a troll, that student had a disciplinary action, or the LORs were bad.

99.99% of high stat kids are accepted

You people are completely off base with this. My high stats kid was rejected from UMD for class of 2026, no spring admit. There was nothing wrong with her at all. I have every reason to believe her LOR were strong. I have no idea why the rejection, other than MoCo resident. It happens.

We’re looking at Scattergrams and know this is incredibly unlikely. Our MCPS school just loaded the new data for this year. For UMD it’s an automated upload of data. Are you the ACT 34 parent from above with strong GPA? Out of over a thousand applicants in past five years, there’s one rejection of a truly high stats kid who took the ACT. A couple with very good stats (low 30s) who are outlier rejections. What school and is the weighted gpa above 4.5? Did your DC take at least 6 AP or IB classes?

No I'm not. My daughter did not take the ACT but got a high 1400 SAT. She was not in MCPS. wgpa 4.5 with 6 AP. I can view scattergrams too. She's a red x in the midst of green checks.

1400 SAT is not high stats, I won’t be surprised by the reject.

She said “high 1400”. That is definitely high stats for UMD.

75th percentile for SAT at UMD was 1510, according to the most recent data. 25th percentile was 1330.

Well, there you go.

It’s surprising she wasn’t admitted.

The score is a bit low, APs are few, maybe the essay wasn't great... yes, she SHOULD have been admitted to UMD any other year than 2022, but this year admit rate is 34%, and admissions officers felt differently, and to be honest, this is not a "high stats" kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I don’t understand how this individual did not get into UMD? What is going on?

Several possibilities:

1. Did not take AP exams or report 5s and 4s. For a high stats kid, admissions officers are going to wonder about their absence.

2. Note that MCPS weighs Honors the same as APs in the GPA, unlike some other school systems. Which means MCPS GPA can be inflated and all the colleges recalculate it - but perhaps for PP's kid with 11 APs, that's moot.

3. The personal statement did not show a clear direction and failed to directly reference UMD. Essays are VERY important for mid-level 30-50% acceptance rate colleges, most of which do "holistic" admissions and seek a diversity of student voices. They are deathly afraid of the high stats kid with a generic essay, because they immediately think "yield protection, this kid wants to go elsewhere". Make the college think they are your top choice, always. The Common App allows for a customize personal statement. Save your general statement elsewhere, then tweak it for each college before hitting submit.

Unless it’s new this year, UMD does not yield protect. Look at Scattergrams. I would guess one of the following: the parent meant they were not accepted into a competitive program (but still admitted to university), that the student completely blew off the sentences, there was something unseemly or incomplete in the application, that student intentionally tanked application, that it’s a troll, that student had a disciplinary action, or the LORs were bad.

99.99% of high stat kids are accepted

You people are completely off base with this. My high stats kid was rejected from UMD for class of 2026, no spring admit. There was nothing wrong with her at all. I have every reason to believe her LOR were strong. I have no idea why the rejection, other than MoCo resident. It happens.

We’re looking at Scattergrams and know this is incredibly unlikely. Our MCPS school just loaded the new data for this year. For UMD it’s an automated upload of data. Are you the ACT 34 parent from above with strong GPA? Out of over a thousand applicants in past five years, there’s one rejection of a truly high stats kid who took the ACT. A couple with very good stats (low 30s) who are outlier rejections. What school and is the weighted gpa above 4.5? Did your DC take at least 6 AP or IB classes?

No I'm not. My daughter did not take the ACT but got a high 1400 SAT. She was not in MCPS. wgpa 4.5 with 6 AP. I can view scattergrams too. She's a red x in the midst of green checks.

1400 SAT is not high stats, I won’t be surprised by the reject.

She said “high 1400”. That is definitely high stats for UMD.

75th percentile for SAT at UMD was 1510, according to the most recent data. 25th percentile was 1330.

Inflated by test optional as is the case at all schools.

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^ That's true. If all kids has to submit test scores, the 75% per event Ike would not be a 1510 (definitely would be lower). What was it in 2019?

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^ That's true. If all kids has to submit test scores, the 75% per event Ike would not be a 1510 (definitely would be lower). What was it in 2019?

I just looked this up. For the fall 2020 class, the 25th percentile was 1300, 75th was 1470 and average was 1375. People should keep this in mind in deciding whether to submit test scores. I highly doubt that Md is suddenly attracting a different level of candidate - it just looks that way due to test-optional.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I don’t understand how this individual did not get into UMD? What is going on?

Several possibilities:

1. Did not take AP exams or report 5s and 4s. For a high stats kid, admissions officers are going to wonder about their absence.

2. Note that MCPS weighs Honors the same as APs in the GPA, unlike some other school systems. Which means MCPS GPA can be inflated and all the colleges recalculate it - but perhaps for PP's kid with 11 APs, that's moot.

3. The personal statement did not show a clear direction and failed to directly reference UMD. Essays are VERY important for mid-level 30-50% acceptance rate colleges, most of which do "holistic" admissions and seek a diversity of student voices. They are deathly afraid of the high stats kid with a generic essay, because they immediately think "yield protection, this kid wants to go elsewhere". Make the college think they are your top choice, always. The Common App allows for a customize personal statement. Save your general statement elsewhere, then tweak it for each college before hitting submit.

Unless it’s new this year, UMD does not yield protect. Look at Scattergrams. I would guess one of the following: the parent meant they were not accepted into a competitive program (but still admitted to university), that the student completely blew off the sentences, there was something unseemly or incomplete in the application, that student intentionally tanked application, that it’s a troll, that student had a disciplinary action, or the LORs were bad.

99.99% of high stat kids are accepted

You people are completely off base with this. My high stats kid was rejected from UMD for class of 2026, no spring admit. There was nothing wrong with her at all. I have every reason to believe her LOR were strong. I have no idea why the rejection, other than MoCo resident. It happens.

We’re looking at Scattergrams and know this is incredibly unlikely. Our MCPS school just loaded the new data for this year. For UMD it’s an automated upload of data. Are you the ACT 34 parent from above with strong GPA? Out of over a thousand applicants in past five years, there’s one rejection of a truly high stats kid who took the ACT. A couple with very good stats (low 30s) who are outlier rejections. What school and is the weighted gpa above 4.5? Did your DC take at least 6 AP or IB classes?

No I'm not. My daughter did not take the ACT but got a high 1400 SAT. She was not in MCPS. wgpa 4.5 with 6 AP. I can view scattergrams too. She's a red x in the midst of green checks.

1400 SAT is not high stats, I won’t be surprised by the reject.

She said “high 1400”. That is definitely high stats for UMD.

75th percentile for SAT at UMD was 1510, according to the most recent data. 25th percentile was 1330.

Well, there you go.

It’s surprising she wasn’t admitted.

The score is a bit low, APs are few, maybe the essay wasn't great... yes, she SHOULD have been admitted to UMD any other year than 2022, but this year admit rate is 34%, and admissions officers felt differently, and to be honest, this is not a "high stats" kid.

I don’t understand why people keep saying that a high 1400 score is low. If 75% is 1510 than a 1480 or whatever it was is not why she wasn’t accepted. I don’t know what the reason was and I don’t know anything else about her or her application. But it wasn’t the SAT score.

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What was the unweighted GPA? That is a better determining factor with grade inflation.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I don’t understand how this individual did not get into UMD? What is going on?

Several possibilities:

1. Did not take AP exams or report 5s and 4s. For a high stats kid, admissions officers are going to wonder about their absence.

2. Note that MCPS weighs Honors the same as APs in the GPA, unlike some other school systems. Which means MCPS GPA can be inflated and all the colleges recalculate it - but perhaps for PP's kid with 11 APs, that's moot.

3. The personal statement did not show a clear direction and failed to directly reference UMD. Essays are VERY important for mid-level 30-50% acceptance rate colleges, most of which do "holistic" admissions and seek a diversity of student voices. They are deathly afraid of the high stats kid with a generic essay, because they immediately think "yield protection, this kid wants to go elsewhere". Make the college think they are your top choice, always. The Common App allows for a customize personal statement. Save your general statement elsewhere, then tweak it for each college before hitting submit.

Unless it’s new this year, UMD does not yield protect. Look at Scattergrams. I would guess one of the following: the parent meant they were not accepted into a competitive program (but still admitted to university), that the student completely blew off the sentences, there was something unseemly or incomplete in the application, that student intentionally tanked application, that it’s a troll, that student had a disciplinary action, or the LORs were bad.

99.99% of high stat kids are accepted

You people are completely off base with this. My high stats kid was rejected from UMD for class of 2026, no spring admit. There was nothing wrong with her at all. I have every reason to believe her LOR were strong. I have no idea why the rejection, other than MoCo resident. It happens.

We’re looking at Scattergrams and know this is incredibly unlikely. Our MCPS school just loaded the new data for this year. For UMD it’s an automated upload of data. Are you the ACT 34 parent from above with strong GPA? Out of over a thousand applicants in past five years, there’s one rejection of a truly high stats kid who took the ACT. A couple with very good stats (low 30s) who are outlier rejections. What school and is the weighted gpa above 4.5? Did your DC take at least 6 AP or IB classes?

No I'm not. My daughter did not take the ACT but got a high 1400 SAT. She was not in MCPS. wgpa 4.5 with 6 AP. I can view scattergrams too. She's a red x in the midst of green checks.

1400 SAT is not high stats, I won’t be surprised by the reject.

She said “high 1400”. That is definitely high stats for UMD.

75th percentile for SAT at UMD was 1510, according to the most recent data. 25th percentile was 1330.

Well, there you go.

It’s surprising she wasn’t admitted.

The score is a bit low, APs are few, maybe the essay wasn't great... yes, she SHOULD have been admitted to UMD any other year than 2022, but this year admit rate is 34%, and admissions officers felt differently, and to be honest, this is not a "high stats" kid.

I don’t understand why people keep saying that a high 1400 score is low. If 75% is 1510 than a 1480 or whatever it was is not why she wasn’t accepted. I don’t know what the reason was and I don’t know anything else about her or her application. But it wasn’t the SAT score.

Absolutely. It’s a very strong score for UMD and almost anyone with that score and this poster’s grades is accepted. Something else is the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I don’t understand how this individual did not get into UMD? What is going on?

Several possibilities:

1. Did not take AP exams or report 5s and 4s. For a high stats kid, admissions officers are going to wonder about their absence.

2. Note that MCPS weighs Honors the same as APs in the GPA, unlike some other school systems. Which means MCPS GPA can be inflated and all the colleges recalculate it - but perhaps for PP's kid with 11 APs, that's moot.

3. The personal statement did not show a clear direction and failed to directly reference UMD. Essays are VERY important for mid-level 30-50% acceptance rate colleges, most of which do "holistic" admissions and seek a diversity of student voices. They are deathly afraid of the high stats kid with a generic essay, because they immediately think "yield protection, this kid wants to go elsewhere". Make the college think they are your top choice, always. The Common App allows for a customize personal statement. Save your general statement elsewhere, then tweak it for each college before hitting submit.

Unless it’s new this year, UMD does not yield protect. Look at Scattergrams. I would guess one of the following: the parent meant they were not accepted into a competitive program (but still admitted to university), that the student completely blew off the sentences, there was something unseemly or incomplete in the application, that student intentionally tanked application, that it’s a troll, that student had a disciplinary action, or the LORs were bad.

99.99% of high stat kids are accepted

You people are completely off base with this. My high stats kid was rejected from UMD for class of 2026, no spring admit. There was nothing wrong with her at all. I have every reason to believe her LOR were strong. I have no idea why the rejection, other than MoCo resident. It happens.

We’re looking at Scattergrams and know this is incredibly unlikely. Our MCPS school just loaded the new data for this year. For UMD it’s an automated upload of data. Are you the ACT 34 parent from above with strong GPA? Out of over a thousand applicants in past five years, there’s one rejection of a truly high stats kid who took the ACT. A couple with very good stats (low 30s) who are outlier rejections. What school and is the weighted gpa above 4.5? Did your DC take at least 6 AP or IB classes?

No I'm not. My daughter did not take the ACT but got a high 1400 SAT. She was not in MCPS. wgpa 4.5 with 6 AP. I can view scattergrams too. She's a red x in the midst of green checks.

1400 SAT is not high stats, I won’t be surprised by the reject.

She said “high 1400”. That is definitely high stats for UMD.

75th percentile for SAT at UMD was 1510, according to the most recent data. 25th percentile was 1330.

Well, there you go.

It’s surprising she wasn’t admitted.

The score is a bit low, APs are few, maybe the essay wasn't great... yes, she SHOULD have been admitted to UMD any other year than 2022, but this year admit rate is 34%, and admissions officers felt differently, and to be honest, this is not a "high stats" kid.

I don’t understand why people keep saying that a high 1400 score is low. If 75% is 1510 than a 1480 or whatever it was is not why she wasn’t accepted. I don’t know what the reason was and I don’t know anything else about her or her application. But it wasn’t the SAT score.

Absolutely. It’s a very strong score for UMD and almost anyone with that score and this poster’s grades is accepted. Something else is the issue.

+1 With those stats they would make any initial cut off for acceptance, next they would look at the supporting documentation to see if this student fits the class they are building. Without knowing more about the LOR's supplemental answers or essay its not an answer we can figure out.

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It could well be that after factoring in the balancing of counties, school, school system, races, gender, or others that someone gets left out.

If you're the 151st best applicant from magnet school A and they decided to take 150 from there...well...

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I don’t understand how this individual did not get into UMD? What is going on?

Several possibilities:

1. Did not take AP exams or report 5s and 4s. For a high stats kid, admissions officers are going to wonder about their absence.

2. Note that MCPS weighs Honors the same as APs in the GPA, unlike some other school systems. Which means MCPS GPA can be inflated and all the colleges recalculate it - but perhaps for PP's kid with 11 APs, that's moot.

3. The personal statement did not show a clear direction and failed to directly reference UMD. Essays are VERY important for mid-level 30-50% acceptance rate colleges, most of which do "holistic" admissions and seek a diversity of student voices. They are deathly afraid of the high stats kid with a generic essay, because they immediately think "yield protection, this kid wants to go elsewhere". Make the college think they are your top choice, always. The Common App allows for a customize personal statement. Save your general statement elsewhere, then tweak it for each college before hitting submit.

Unless it’s new this year, UMD does not yield protect. Look at Scattergrams. I would guess one of the following: the parent meant they were not accepted into a competitive program (but still admitted to university), that the student completely blew off the sentences, there was something unseemly or incomplete in the application, that student intentionally tanked application, that it’s a troll, that student had a disciplinary action, or the LORs were bad.

99.99% of high stat kids are accepted

You people are completely off base with this. My high stats kid was rejected from UMD for class of 2026, no spring admit. There was nothing wrong with her at all. I have every reason to believe her LOR were strong. I have no idea why the rejection, other than MoCo resident. It happens.

What were her stats? Did she apply EA?

Yes, applied EA, with profile similar to the high stats kid above.

Every year, there are a few stories like this. It's upsetting to the student and family, but no explanation why it happens.

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On the other hand, with a acceptance rate of ~35, that means the rate for MD applicants is probably notably higher, maybe closer to 45 or 50%..I don't know if any appeals process even exists but (if it does) you could ask if you are truly a high-roller who got denied and suspect there was maybe an error of some sort.

They may simply tell you all decisions are final however.

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Acceptance rate at our high school seems to be around 50% every year. You can see in Naviance that there is a general cut off with very few outliers.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In total shock. High stats (4.6 W, 11 APs, 34 ACT), great ECs, MCPS. We're hoping it's a yield thing, and this doesn't bode badly for DCs RD applications

I'm so sorry. I'm the other poster from earlier with the rejected child so I feel your shock. Your stats are even more impressive than DC's.

Been there! Amazing stats - and I'm sure wonderful kids, too. That doesn't just happen...they must have terrific parents! Hope your kids are feeling a little better now that it's been a week or so. Best of luck with RD applications. That's when my kids received all of their good news.

Worth a read: https://raisingamericans.substack.com/p/deferred-or-rejected-by-a-dream-school

[Anonymous]

Fall 2022 SAT scores: 25th percentile 1380, 75th percentile 1520, midpoint 1445. Source: UMD FB
Group for parents of 2027. Only 2346 submitted SAT scores. 56,766 applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2022 SAT scores: 25th percentile 1380, 75th percentile 1520, midpoint 1445. Source: UMD FB
Group for parents of 2027. Only 2346 submitted SAT scores. 56,766 applicants.

How does the FB group know this? Was data released by the school?