Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools

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While you're all bickering about the contents of the AP curriculum in question, DeSantis is getting a lot of national attention. He seems to be timing these headline-grabbing announcements in regular succession to raise his national profile and keep himself in the news--all with a view to becoming president. Sound familiar? Let's not fall for this strategy again. We've been down this road before...

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That's not a surprise. College Board and AP classes have been going farther and farther left, as have many universities, decade by decade, accelerating. The general public, including college grads, are less and less happy about this, but are powerless to speak up or change anything.

This is the first time anyone has said that a class is too left. Yes, it's inappropriate for DeSantis to do this and yes, his motives are impure. But there are many who want some brakes on the swing left in upper education, by any means necessary.

How so? Please provide an example of teaching in other AP classes from the College Board that strayed too far to the left?

What other books are too far to the left? Maya Angelou?

I don't think Maya Angelou was a core part of the woke AA Studies course... way too conservative for them. They chose to highlight the more "intersectional" queer crowd no one knows or cares about....WHY?

Not talking about the current class, but the comment who said "College Board and AP classes have been going farther and farther to the left."

Where is the evidence of this? What publications/material is opposed in other AP classes?

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The controversy about the current class tells you everything there's to know.

DeSantis is being called a Nazi...because he opposes a far-left course that reflects political bias not AA history.

No, it doesn't. It tells me about one class in one State. That's an anecdote, not a trend.

This thread is about one class.

Prove your credibility and capacity to analyze courses.

How do you assess the syllabus of this course as proposed?

? I'm not the one who made a sweeping assertion about all AP classes, I'm not the one with a point to prove. I'm here waiting for evidence from someone else.

Title of this thread: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools

That's quite a sweeping assertion. What do YOU think, lazy PP?

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That's not a surprise. College Board and AP classes have been going farther and farther left, as have many universities, decade by decade, accelerating. The general public, including college grads, are less and less happy about this, but are powerless to speak up or change anything.

This is the first time anyone has said that a class is too left. Yes, it's inappropriate for DeSantis to do this and yes, his motives are impure. But there are many who want some brakes on the swing left in upper education, by any means necessary.

How so? Please provide an example of teaching in other AP classes from the College Board that strayed too far to the left?

What other books are too far to the left? Maya Angelou?

I don't think Maya Angelou was a core part of the woke AA Studies course... way too conservative for them. They chose to highlight the more "intersectional" queer crowd no one knows or cares about....WHY?

Not talking about the current class, but the comment who said "College Board and AP classes have been going farther and farther to the left."

Where is the evidence of this? What publications/material is opposed in other AP classes?

??

The controversy about the current class tells you everything there's to know.

DeSantis is being called a Nazi...because he opposes a far-left course that reflects political bias not AA history.

No, it doesn't. It tells me about one class in one State. That's an anecdote, not a trend.

This thread is about one class.

Prove your credibility and capacity to analyze courses.

How do you assess the syllabus of this course as proposed?

? I'm not the one who made a sweeping assertion about all AP classes, I'm not the one with a point to prove. I'm here waiting for evidence from someone else.

Title of this thread: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools

That's quite a sweeping assertion. What do YOU think, lazy PP?

I think an anecdote isn't a trend.

I think you don't have any "evidence" beyond this one anecdote and that's why you keep deflecting and insulting as is par for the course with nearly every other conservative on this board when they're called out on lack of evidence.

I also think this one class in particular doesn't concern me personally as the parent of two kids who I encourage to read materials from all sorts of viewpoints. I'd be willing to listen if someone posted further convincing evidence to the contrary, but as I'm not concerned, the onus isn't on me to do the convincing.

The educational trend I see as concerning is the general fascist trend toward book banning in schools. There ARE multiple incidents of that in the news recently.

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That's not a surprise. College Board and AP classes have been going farther and farther left, as have many universities, decade by decade, accelerating. The general public, including college grads, are less and less happy about this, but are powerless to speak up or change anything.

This is the first time anyone has said that a class is too left. Yes, it's inappropriate for DeSantis to do this and yes, his motives are impure. But there are many who want some brakes on the swing left in upper education, by any means necessary.

The truth has a liberal bias, but the swing to extremism is all on the right. Republicans are bat shit crazy about everything.

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That's not a surprise. College Board and AP classes have been going farther and farther left, as have many universities, decade by decade, accelerating. The general public, including college grads, are less and less happy about this, but are powerless to speak up or change anything.

This is the first time anyone has said that a class is too left. Yes, it's inappropriate for DeSantis to do this and yes, his motives are impure. But there are many who want some brakes on the swing left in upper education, by any means necessary.

How so? Please provide an example of teaching in other AP classes from the College Board that strayed too far to the left?

What other books are too far to the left? Maya Angelou?

I don't think Maya Angelou was a core part of the woke AA Studies course... way too conservative for them. They chose to highlight the more "intersectional" queer crowd no one knows or cares about....WHY?

Not talking about the current class, but the comment who said "College Board and AP classes have been going farther and farther to the left."

Where is the evidence of this? What publications/material is opposed in other AP classes?

??

The controversy about the current class tells you everything there's to know.

DeSantis is being called a Nazi...because he opposes a far-left course that reflects political bias not AA history.

He is being accused of being a racist because he is pandering to racists. It’s simple deductive reasoning.

[Anonymous]

All these AP classes are scam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

That's not a surprise. College Board and AP classes have been going farther and farther left, as have many universities, decade by decade, accelerating. The general public, including college grads, are less and less happy about this, but are powerless to speak up or change anything.

This is the first time anyone has said that a class is too left. Yes, it's inappropriate for DeSantis to do this and yes, his motives are impure. But there are many who want some brakes on the swing left in upper education, by any means necessary.

The truth has a liberal bias, but the swing to extremism is all on the right. Republicans are bat shit crazy about everything.

Spoken like a truly partisan Democrat who is blinded to their own party's extremism.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:His new edict is terrifying. He wants to end unanimity in jury trials for murder. This is a bridge too far.

Forgot link:

https://news.yahoo.com/desantis-calls-end-jury-unanimity-163947130.html

Republican governor suggests ‘super-majority’ should suffice in state that has required jury unanimity in capital cases since 2017

This is not "terrifying." What is wrong with a super majority?
This is about determining the SENTENCE, not innocence or guilt. And, up until 2017, it was a simple majority.

NP. I, too find it terrifying. If the state is going to kill someone, the certainty that this is indeed the right thing to do should be unanimous. As it is, the death penalty is not applied uniformly — something that should trouble even those who support the death penalty. Florida has also had quite a few people on death row exonerated. I’m not clear how many of these were pre-2017.

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Anonymous wrote:All these AP classes are scam.

Possibly. So why isn’t DeSantis banning those as well?

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Anonymous wrote:All these AP classes are scam.

Yeah I suspect this is true.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

Most high schools that currently teach an African American History/studies course would modify it to prepare for the AP test. Why not? It isn’t and wouldn’t be required for any school. I doubt that many Florida high schools currently have an African American history course. Desantis is just blocking those that do from offering students an AP credit opportunity.

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