Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

Most high schools that currently teach an African American History/studies course would modify it to prepare for the AP test. Why not? It isn’t and wouldn’t be required for any school. I doubt that many Florida high schools currently have an African American history course. Desantis is just blocking those that do from offering students an AP credit opportunity.

DP. You would be wrong. Black history isn't an elective in Florida schools - it's *mandatory*. All students are taught about black history in the U.S.

Florida mandates instruction on “the enslavement experience,” “the civil rights movement,” and the contributions of black Americans. Three years ago, DeSantis signed a law to teach the 1920 Ocoee massacre, in which a white mob killed dozens of black Floridians - funny how DCUM doesn't see fit to acknowledge any of this.

On the other hand, here are some topics from the proposed AP African American History class, Unit 4:

• “The Reparations Movement,” a topic that “explores the case for reparations,” in which students “may examine House Bill H.R. 40 and a text by Ta-Nehisi Coates.”

• “Movements for Black Lives,” which “explores the origins, mission, and global influence of the Black Lives Matter movement,” some of whose adherents have called for the abolition of prisons and police.

• “Black Queer Studies,” which “explores the concept of the queer of color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies toward racial analysis.”

• “‘Postracial’ Racism and Colorblindness,” which “explores concepts such as postracialism, colorblindness, racecraft, or inequality.”

• “Intersectionality and Activism,” which “examines intersectionality as an analytical framework and its connection to Chicana and Asian American feminist thought.” Students “may explore a text” by Kimberlé Crenshaw, whose official Columbia Law School bio says that her work is “foundational in critical race theory.”

“We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think,” the Governor said, “but we don’t believe they should have an agenda imposed on them.”

Good for DeSantis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

Most high schools that currently teach an African American History/studies course would modify it to prepare for the AP test. Why not? It isn’t and wouldn’t be required for any school. I doubt that many Florida high schools currently have an African American history course. Desantis is just blocking those that do from offering students an AP credit opportunity.

DP. You would be wrong. Black history isn't an elective in Florida schools - it's *mandatory*. All students are taught about black history in the U.S.

Florida mandates instruction on “the enslavement experience,” “the civil rights movement,” and the contributions of black Americans. Three years ago, DeSantis signed a law to teach the 1920 Ocoee massacre, in which a white mob killed dozens of black Floridians - funny how DCUM doesn't see fit to acknowledge any of this.

On the other hand, here are some topics from the proposed AP African American History class, Unit 4:

• “The Reparations Movement,” a topic that “explores the case for reparations,” in which students “may examine House Bill H.R. 40 and a text by Ta-Nehisi Coates.”

• “Movements for Black Lives,” which “explores the origins, mission, and global influence of the Black Lives Matter movement,” some of whose adherents have called for the abolition of prisons and police.

• “Black Queer Studies,” which “explores the concept of the queer of color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies toward racial analysis.”

• “‘Postracial’ Racism and Colorblindness,” which “explores concepts such as postracialism, colorblindness, racecraft, or inequality.”

• “Intersectionality and Activism,” which “examines intersectionality as an analytical framework and its connection to Chicana and Asian American feminist thought.” Students “may explore a text” by Kimberlé Crenshaw, whose official Columbia Law School bio says that her work is “foundational in critical race theory.”

“We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think,” the Governor said, “but we don’t believe they should have an agenda imposed on them.”

Good for DeSantis.

DP What exactly are you objecting to? Each one of the bulleted items is factual, and can be critically assessed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

Most high schools that currently teach an African American History/studies course would modify it to prepare for the AP test. Why not? It isn’t and wouldn’t be required for any school. I doubt that many Florida high schools currently have an African American history course. Desantis is just blocking those that do from offering students an AP credit opportunity.

DP. You would be wrong. Black history isn't an elective in Florida schools - it's *mandatory*. All students are taught about black history in the U.S.

Florida mandates instruction on “the enslavement experience,” “the civil rights movement,” and the contributions of black Americans. Three years ago, DeSantis signed a law to teach the 1920 Ocoee massacre, in which a white mob killed dozens of black Floridians - funny how DCUM doesn't see fit to acknowledge any of this.

On the other hand, here are some topics from the proposed AP African American History class, Unit 4:

• “The Reparations Movement,” a topic that “explores the case for reparations,” in which students “may examine House Bill H.R. 40 and a text by Ta-Nehisi Coates.”

• “Movements for Black Lives,” which “explores the origins, mission, and global influence of the Black Lives Matter movement,” some of whose adherents have called for the abolition of prisons and police.

• “Black Queer Studies,” which “explores the concept of the queer of color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies toward racial analysis.”

• “‘Postracial’ Racism and Colorblindness,” which “explores concepts such as postracialism, colorblindness, racecraft, or inequality.”

• “Intersectionality and Activism,” which “examines intersectionality as an analytical framework and its connection to Chicana and Asian American feminist thought.” Students “may explore a text” by Kimberlé Crenshaw, whose official Columbia Law School bio says that her work is “foundational in critical race theory.”

“We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think,” the Governor said, “but we don’t believe they should have an agenda imposed on them.”

Good for DeSantis.

Hi, welcome to the thread, we’ve been discussing this syllabus for a while. What specifically do you think is wrong with it?

[Anonymous]

This course is just red meat for the white conservatives. How dare they compare the African American experience, the queer experience, and the white experience!?!? Surely everyone's world views and experiences are the same!?!? /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

Most high schools that currently teach an African American History/studies course would modify it to prepare for the AP test. Why not? It isn’t and wouldn’t be required for any school. I doubt that many Florida high schools currently have an African American history course. Desantis is just blocking those that do from offering students an AP credit opportunity.

DP. You would be wrong. Black history isn't an elective in Florida schools - it's *mandatory*. All students are taught about black history in the U.S.

Florida mandates instruction on “the enslavement experience,” “the civil rights movement,” and the contributions of black Americans. Three years ago, DeSantis signed a law to teach the 1920 Ocoee massacre, in which a white mob killed dozens of black Floridians - funny how DCUM doesn't see fit to acknowledge any of this.

On the other hand, here are some topics from the proposed AP African American History class, Unit 4:

• “The Reparations Movement,” a topic that “explores the case for reparations,” in which students “may examine House Bill H.R. 40 and a text by Ta-Nehisi Coates.”

• “Movements for Black Lives,” which “explores the origins, mission, and global influence of the Black Lives Matter movement,” some of whose adherents have called for the abolition of prisons and police.

• “Black Queer Studies,” which “explores the concept of the queer of color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies toward racial analysis.”

• “‘Postracial’ Racism and Colorblindness,” which “explores concepts such as postracialism, colorblindness, racecraft, or inequality.”

• “Intersectionality and Activism,” which “examines intersectionality as an analytical framework and its connection to Chicana and Asian American feminist thought.” Students “may explore a text” by Kimberlé Crenshaw, whose official Columbia Law School bio says that her work is “foundational in critical race theory.”

“We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think,” the Governor said, “but we don’t believe they should have an agenda imposed on them.”

Good for DeSantis.

These are all good topics for discussion when it comes to black people whether you believe it or not. These are relevant topics. You don't get to decide what is important to black people. The point of an AP class is discussion. These are all topics worthy of discussion and debate.

[Anonymous]

This is an anonymous forum, so I'll just say it... I am glad that CRT exists. I am glad that bias and privilege are being talked about. It exists & racists should be called out for it.
Signed,
A middle aged white guy

[Anonymous]

History needs to teach the good and the bad, so that we can learn from the bad and never repeat it.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

Most high schools that currently teach an African American History/studies course would modify it to prepare for the AP test. Why not? It isn’t and wouldn’t be required for any school. I doubt that many Florida high schools currently have an African American history course. Desantis is just blocking those that do from offering students an AP credit opportunity.

DP. You would be wrong. Black history isn't an elective in Florida schools - it's *mandatory*. All students are taught about black history in the U.S.

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Lol. You’re a lying sack. https://seattlemedium.com/fla-house-passes-individual-freedom-to-limit-teaching-of-black-history/

They expressly limit its teaching. This is the bill that began its life prohibiting all kinds of education so that White students didn’t feel “discomfort.”

“Florida” isn’t that many letters from “fascism.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

Most high schools that currently teach an African American History/studies course would modify it to prepare for the AP test. Why not? It isn’t and wouldn’t be required for any school. I doubt that many Florida high schools currently have an African American history course. Desantis is just blocking those that do from offering students an AP credit opportunity.

DP. You would be wrong. Black history isn't an elective in Florida schools - it's *mandatory*. All students are taught about black history in the U.S.

[…]

Lol. You’re a lying sack. https://seattlemedium.com/fla-house-passes-individual-freedom-to-limit-teaching-of-black-history/

They expressly limit its teaching. This is the bill that began its life prohibiting all kinds of education so that White students didn’t feel “discomfort.”

“Florida” isn’t that many letters from “fascism.”

Funny how you accuse me of being a "lying sack," when you couldn't even be bothered to quote my entire post. Of course black history is a mandated subject in Florida schools - so is the Holocaust, btw. You were saying something about "fascism"? Also - it's so precious that you're using "Seattle Medium" as a source.

Florida mandates instruction on “the enslavement experience,” “the civil rights movement,” and the contributions of black Americans. Three years ago, DeSantis signed a law to teach the 1920 Ocoee massacre, in which a white mob killed dozens of black Floridians - funny how DCUM doesn't see fit to acknowledge any of this.

“We want to make sure our students understand the evils of the Holocaust. You see people throughout the world try to diminish or even reject that the Holocaust even happened,” DeSantis said, reported the Orlando Sentinel.

Florida does indeed mandate the teaching of both black history and the Holocaust. If you want to discuss reparations, BLM, black queer studies, intersectionality, and other agenda-driven topics with *your* kids, have at it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

Most high schools that currently teach an African American History/studies course would modify it to prepare for the AP test. Why not? It isn’t and wouldn’t be required for any school. I doubt that many Florida high schools currently have an African American history course. Desantis is just blocking those that do from offering students an AP credit opportunity.

DP. You would be wrong. Black history isn't an elective in Florida schools - it's *mandatory*. All students are taught about black history in the U.S.

Florida mandates instruction on “the enslavement experience,” “the civil rights movement,” and the contributions of black Americans. Three years ago, DeSantis signed a law to teach the 1920 Ocoee massacre, in which a white mob killed dozens of black Floridians - funny how DCUM doesn't see fit to acknowledge any of this.

On the other hand, here are some topics from the proposed AP African American History class, Unit 4:

• “The Reparations Movement,” a topic that “explores the case for reparations,” in which students “may examine House Bill H.R. 40 and a text by Ta-Nehisi Coates.”

• “Movements for Black Lives,” which “explores the origins, mission, and global influence of the Black Lives Matter movement,” some of whose adherents have called for the abolition of prisons and police.

• “Black Queer Studies,” which “explores the concept of the queer of color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies toward racial analysis.”

• “‘Postracial’ Racism and Colorblindness,” which “explores concepts such as postracialism, colorblindness, racecraft, or inequality.”

• “Intersectionality and Activism,” which “examines intersectionality as an analytical framework and its connection to Chicana and Asian American feminist thought.” Students “may explore a text” by Kimberlé Crenshaw, whose official Columbia Law School bio says that her work is “foundational in critical race theory.”

“We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think,” the Governor said, “but we don’t believe they should have an agenda imposed on them.”

Good for DeSantis.

"We don't believe in imposing an agenda in kids, that's why it's illegal to learn about viewpoints that the governor disagrees with."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

Most high schools that currently teach an African American History/studies course would modify it to prepare for the AP test. Why not? It isn’t and wouldn’t be required for any school. I doubt that many Florida high schools currently have an African American history course. Desantis is just blocking those that do from offering students an AP credit opportunity.

DP. You would be wrong. Black history isn't an elective in Florida schools - it's *mandatory*. All students are taught about black history in the U.S.

Florida mandates instruction on “the enslavement experience,” “the civil rights movement,” and the contributions of black Americans. Three years ago, DeSantis signed a law to teach the 1920 Ocoee massacre, in which a white mob killed dozens of black Floridians - funny how DCUM doesn't see fit to acknowledge any of this.

On the other hand, here are some topics from the proposed AP African American History class, Unit 4:

• “The Reparations Movement,” a topic that “explores the case for reparations,” in which students “may examine House Bill H.R. 40 and a text by Ta-Nehisi Coates.”

• “Movements for Black Lives,” which “explores the origins, mission, and global influence of the Black Lives Matter movement,” some of whose adherents have called for the abolition of prisons and police.

• “Black Queer Studies,” which “explores the concept of the queer of color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies toward racial analysis.”

• “‘Postracial’ Racism and Colorblindness,” which “explores concepts such as postracialism, colorblindness, racecraft, or inequality.”

• “Intersectionality and Activism,” which “examines intersectionality as an analytical framework and its connection to Chicana and Asian American feminist thought.” Students “may explore a text” by Kimberlé Crenshaw, whose official Columbia Law School bio says that her work is “foundational in critical race theory.”

“We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think,” the Governor said, “but we don’t believe they should have an agenda imposed on them.”

Good for DeSantis.

No, you are wrong. There is not a mandatory course in African American history. You are talking about some mandatory topics to be included in the mandatory U.S. history course. Few Florida schools have a separate course in African American history, and those are the only schools who would consider revising it for the AP African American Studies course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

Most high schools that currently teach an African American History/studies course would modify it to prepare for the AP test. Why not? It isn’t and wouldn’t be required for any school. I doubt that many Florida high schools currently have an African American history course. Desantis is just blocking those that do from offering students an AP credit opportunity.

DP. You would be wrong. Black history isn't an elective in Florida schools - it's *mandatory*. All students are taught about black history in the U.S.

Florida mandates instruction on “the enslavement experience,” “the civil rights movement,” and the contributions of black Americans. Three years ago, DeSantis signed a law to teach the 1920 Ocoee massacre, in which a white mob killed dozens of black Floridians - funny how DCUM doesn't see fit to acknowledge any of this.

On the other hand, here are some topics from the proposed AP African American History class, Unit 4:

• “The Reparations Movement,” a topic that “explores the case for reparations,” in which students “may examine House Bill H.R. 40 and a text by Ta-Nehisi Coates.”

• “Movements for Black Lives,” which “explores the origins, mission, and global influence of the Black Lives Matter movement,” some of whose adherents have called for the abolition of prisons and police.

• “Black Queer Studies,” which “explores the concept of the queer of color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies toward racial analysis.”

• “‘Postracial’ Racism and Colorblindness,” which “explores concepts such as postracialism, colorblindness, racecraft, or inequality.”

• “Intersectionality and Activism,” which “examines intersectionality as an analytical framework and its connection to Chicana and Asian American feminist thought.” Students “may explore a text” by Kimberlé Crenshaw, whose official Columbia Law School bio says that her work is “foundational in critical race theory.”

“We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think,” the Governor said, “but we don’t believe they should have an agenda imposed on them.”

Good for DeSantis.

No, you are wrong. There is not a mandatory course in African American history. You are talking about some mandatory topics to be included in the mandatory U.S. history course. Few Florida schools have a separate course in African American history, and those are the only schools who would consider revising it for the AP African American Studies course.

I never said it was a separate class - I said teaching black history is mandated, which is absolutely correct. That's because black history IS US history. Is there a separate class on Asian Americans? European Americans? Hispanic Americans? No, those groups are discussed within US history - just as blacks are.

Again, no one is stopping you from indoctrinating your own kids with the agenda you seem to prefer, above. Go for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many racist school districts across the US don't offer an AP African American studies class?

Almost all.

Most school districts don’t offer it — because it’s still a pilot program.
Many do offer African American history/ studies — just not AP, and many more appropriately integrate and teach African American studies throughout the curriculum.

Most high schools that currently teach an African American History/studies course would modify it to prepare for the AP test. Why not? It isn’t and wouldn’t be required for any school. I doubt that many Florida high schools currently have an African American history course. Desantis is just blocking those that do from offering students an AP credit opportunity.

DP. You would be wrong. Black history isn't an elective in Florida schools - it's *mandatory*. All students are taught about black history in the U.S.

Florida mandates instruction on “the enslavement experience,” “the civil rights movement,” and the contributions of black Americans. Three years ago, DeSantis signed a law to teach the 1920 Ocoee massacre, in which a white mob killed dozens of black Floridians - funny how DCUM doesn't see fit to acknowledge any of this.

On the other hand, here are some topics from the proposed AP African American History class, Unit 4:

• “The Reparations Movement,” a topic that “explores the case for reparations,” in which students “may examine House Bill H.R. 40 and a text by Ta-Nehisi Coates.”

• “Movements for Black Lives,” which “explores the origins, mission, and global influence of the Black Lives Matter movement,” some of whose adherents have called for the abolition of prisons and police.

• “Black Queer Studies,” which “explores the concept of the queer of color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies toward racial analysis.”

• “‘Postracial’ Racism and Colorblindness,” which “explores concepts such as postracialism, colorblindness, racecraft, or inequality.”

• “Intersectionality and Activism,” which “examines intersectionality as an analytical framework and its connection to Chicana and Asian American feminist thought.” Students “may explore a text” by Kimberlé Crenshaw, whose official Columbia Law School bio says that her work is “foundational in critical race theory.”

“We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think,” the Governor said, “but we don’t believe they should have an agenda imposed on them.”

Good for DeSantis.

These are all good topics for discussion when it comes to black people whether you believe it or not. These are relevant topics. You don't get to decide what is important to black people. The point of an AP class is discussion. These are all topics worthy of discussion and debate.

DP. These are topics for discussion and debate, for and against. Not for one side only.

[Anonymous]

I don't think this thread has acknowledged that College Board is revising the class in response to the criticism from Florida. I'm interested to see the new curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think this thread has acknowledged that College Board is revising the class in response to the criticism from Florida. I'm interested to see the new curriculum.

Update: The revisions will be released Wednesday.