Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not even dog whistlin’ Dixie anymore

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/us/desantis-florida-ap-african-american-studies.amp.html


Those cultural marxists at the College Board!

"National outrage ensued after the state rejected an AP African American Studies course, but a copy of the syllabus obtained by The Florida Standard shows the course sought to teach progressive doctrines such as intersectionality and Critical Race Theory.

Section 4 of the syllabus introduces the topic “Postracial Racism and Colorblindness” and features texts from Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, who employs Critical Race Theory in his writings...describes how “Whites talk, think, and account for the existence of racial inequality and makes clear that color-blind racism is as insidious now as ever.” ... Section 4 also includes “Black Queer Studies.” A description states: “This topic explores the concept of queer color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies towards racial analysis.”

https://www.theflstandard.com/exclusive-rejected-a...sectionality-and-queer-theory/


Go on crazies, keep on defending this crazy course and attacking Florida for daring say it didn't meet quality standards

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is there an AP African-American Studies course?

Worse, why is it based in the already-debunked 1619 nyt propaganda project?

Take the AP that interests you and stop whining about what subjects interest other students

Propaganda should not be in our schools.

That course stinks of obvious propaganda.

If you want to dull and misinform yourself, buy a book and read it. But don't force bs on others, much less hijacking educational channels.

When a sliver of history is falsely labeled "propaganda" you lose the debate. There is merit to the African-American story within the broader US History. If you don't have interest in it, that is your right to ignore it, but just because you want to be ignorant doesn't mean others have to be ignorant.

+1. And the proposed readings seem totally appropriate. I doubt I'd agree with all of the opinions in them, but by the time you're taking a course of this level you should be able to read controversial opinions to understand them. I don't get the dumbing down of the curriculum by insisting on taking out ideas because some people disagree with them.

Queer intersectionality as a part of African American studies? That's a bit insulting.

You're welcome to find it insulting. What you can't do, honestly, is claim that there aren't Black writers who see queer experiences as having relevance to the study of African American experiences. Studying those people is totally appropriate for students aiming at a college level course in African American studies.

Sometimes students are going to read things that one or more of them might find insulting. We read defenses of slavery when I was studying US history in school, because understanding that is important, even though it was definitely insulting to some students in the class. Stop coddling kids and let them read things you disagree with.

+1

The American experience is being rooted as "the other" as compared to majority culture, so there is a relevant parallel that can be explored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not even dog whistlin’ Dixie anymore

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/us/desantis-florida-ap-african-american-studies.amp.html


Those cultural marxists at the College Board!

"National outrage ensued after the state rejected an AP African American Studies course, but a copy of the syllabus obtained by The Florida Standard shows the course sought to teach progressive doctrines such as intersectionality and Critical Race Theory.

Section 4 of the syllabus introduces the topic “Postracial Racism and Colorblindness” and features texts from Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, who employs Critical Race Theory in his writings...describes how “Whites talk, think, and account for the existence of racial inequality and makes clear that color-blind racism is as insidious now as ever.” ... Section 4 also includes “Black Queer Studies.” A description states: “This topic explores the concept of queer color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies towards racial analysis.”

https://www.theflstandard.com/exclusive-rejected-a...sectionality-and-queer-theory/


Go on crazies, keep on defending this crazy course and attacking Florida for daring say it didn't meet quality standards

Just because you are too ignorant to embrace it as a legitimate course doesn't make it crazy. If anything, it just exposes what you are as a human being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not even dog whistlin’ Dixie anymore

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/us/desantis-florida-ap-african-american-studies.amp.html


Those cultural marxists at the College Board!

"National outrage ensued after the state rejected an AP African American Studies course, but a copy of the syllabus obtained by The Florida Standard shows the course sought to teach progressive doctrines such as intersectionality and Critical Race Theory.

Section 4 of the syllabus introduces the topic “Postracial Racism and Colorblindness” and features texts from Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, who employs Critical Race Theory in his writings...describes how “Whites talk, think, and account for the existence of racial inequality and makes clear that color-blind racism is as insidious now as ever.” ... Section 4 also includes “Black Queer Studies.” A description states: “This topic explores the concept of queer color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies towards racial analysis.”

https://www.theflstandard.com/exclusive-rejected-a...sectionality-and-queer-theory/


Go on crazies, keep on defending this crazy course and attacking Florida for daring say it didn't meet quality standards

Just because you are too ignorant to embrace it as a legitimate course doesn't make it crazy. If anything, it just exposes what you are as a human being.

DP. Someone upthread noted that this class would expose these Black viewpoints to critical review and dismissal.

That's not a class that our country needs right now. As we continue to reexamine our culture following the Black Lives Matter movement, a serious study of African American culture, past and present, can be a valuable course. The College Board revises their classes all the time, they can revise this one to better meet the needs of students too.

[Anonymous]

Your kids don’t have to take the class. They can take AP Economics and learn dangerous theories about how government protection of private property rights and the oppression of workers made America great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not even dog whistlin’ Dixie anymore

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/us/desantis-florida-ap-african-american-studies.amp.html


Those cultural marxists at the College Board!

"National outrage ensued after the state rejected an AP African American Studies course, but a copy of the syllabus obtained by The Florida Standard shows the course sought to teach progressive doctrines such as intersectionality and Critical Race Theory.

Section 4 of the syllabus introduces the topic “Postracial Racism and Colorblindness” and features texts from Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, who employs Critical Race Theory in his writings...describes how “Whites talk, think, and account for the existence of racial inequality and makes clear that color-blind racism is as insidious now as ever.” ... Section 4 also includes “Black Queer Studies.” A description states: “This topic explores the concept of queer color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies towards racial analysis.”

https://www.theflstandard.com/exclusive-rejected-a...sectionality-and-queer-theory/


Go on crazies, keep on defending this crazy course and attacking Florida for daring say it didn't meet quality standards

Just because you are too ignorant to embrace it as a legitimate course doesn't make it crazy. If anything, it just exposes what you are as a human being.

DP. Someone upthread noted that this class would expose these Black viewpoints to critical review and dismissal.

That's not a class that our country needs right now. As we continue to reexamine our culture following the Black Lives Matter movement, a serious study of African American culture, past and present, can be a valuable course. The College Board revises their classes all the time, they can revise this one to better meet the needs of students too.

It is in a pilot phase now. It can be tweaked each year. But to "cancel" it is to eliminate the perspective entirely. That a racist white governor is canceling the opportunity for students to learn an imporant part of US hsitory, and that people in this forum celebrate it, is quite a tell, and scary.

In other words, what are you afraid of? That students may look critically at certain parts of US History, or celebrate other parts?

Oh, please. just stop calling people racist because you disagree with them.

And, FYI..... If they choose to revise the content, FL will reconsider....

“As submitted, the course is a vehicle for a political agenda and leaves large, ambiguous gaps that can be filled with additional ideological material, which we will not allow,” Gov. Ron DeSantis’ Press Secretary Bryan Griffin said. “As Governor DeSantis has stated, our classrooms will be a place for education, not indoctrination.”

FDOE told the College Board in a letter that it can come back to the table with “lawful, historically accurate content” and the department will be willing to reopen the discussion.

https://flvoicenews.com/florida-rejects-ap-african-american-studies-course-cites-political-agenda-and-ideological-material/


And, up until now.... NO students have had "the opportunity for students to learn an imporant part of US hsitory" since it is a brand new course. Save your outrage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is there an AP African-American Studies course?

Because hare pieces of AA history aren’t taught in APUSH. There is also an AP European History class, FYI. If colleges don’t think the course has value, the don’t have to give credit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is there an AP African-American Studies course?

Exactly. I found this....

AP African American Studies is in development and being piloted in select U.S. high schools through 2024. 

Course Development Timeline

2022-23 First pilot at 60 schools across the country.
2023-24 Pilot expands to hundreds of additional high schools.
2024-25 All schools can begin offering AP African American Studies.
Spring 2025 First AP African American Studies Exams are administered.

https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/about-ap/how-ap-develops-courses-and-exams/pilot-ap-african-american-studies

And, then I found this....

EXCLUSIVE: Rejected African American Studies Course in Florida Features CRT, Intersectionality and Queer Theory
National outrage ensued after the state rejected an AP African American Studies course, but a copy of the syllabus obtained by The Florida Standard shows the course sought to teach progressive doctrines such as intersectionality and Critical Race Theory.

TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA — Governor Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Education (FDOE) once again made national headlines on Wednesday after the state rejected an Advanced Placement (AP) African American Studies course. The Florida Standard obtained a copy of the course syllabus and reviewed the proposed material. Topics include “Black Queer Studies” and “Postracial Racism and Colorblindness.”
On January 12, the FDOE’s Office of Articulation sent a letter notifying the College Board that the state was rejecting its request for state approval of the course. The letter stated that “as presented, the content of this course is inexplicably contrary to Florida law and significantly lacks educational value.” At the same time, the letter notes that “in the future, should College Board be willing to come back to the table with lawful, historically accurate content, FDOE will always be willing to reopen the discussion.”
CRITICAL RACE THEORY
Section 4 of the syllabus introduces the topic “Postracial Racism and Colorblindness” and features texts from Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, who employs Critical Race Theory in his writings.
Eduardo Bonilla-Silva’s book Racism without Racists describes how “Whites talk, think, and account for the existence of racial inequality and makes clear that color-blind racism is as insidious now as ever.” The book’s second chapter, entitled “What is Systemic Racism? Coming to Terms with How Racism Shapes ‘All’ Whites (and Non-Whites)” explains how “all members of society participate in structural racism,” according to an online summary.

Section 4 also includes “Black Queer Studies.” A description states: “This topic explores the concept of queer color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies towards racial analysis.”

https://www.theflstandard.com/exclusive-rejected-african-american-studies-course-in-florida-features-crt-intersectionality-and-queer-theory/

How about we stick with American History and study notable people from all races??????

I’m stuck on the repeated assertion that in Florida, only “lawful” history can be taught. If you don’t see educational merit, don’t have your kid take it. But unlawful? That’s full on fascist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is there an AP African-American Studies course?

Worse, why is it based in the already-debunked 1619 nyt propaganda project?

Take the AP that interests you and stop whining about what subjects interest other students

Propaganda should not be in our schools.

That course stinks of obvious propaganda.

If you want to dull and misinform yourself, buy a book and read it. But don't force bs on others, much less hijacking educational channels.

When a sliver of history is falsely labeled "propaganda" you lose the debate. There is merit to the African-American story within the broader US History. If you don't have interest in it, that is your right to ignore it, but just because you want to be ignorant doesn't mean others have to be ignorant.

+1. And the proposed readings seem totally appropriate. I doubt I'd agree with all of the opinions in them, but by the time you're taking a course of this level you should be able to read controversial opinions to understand them. I don't get the dumbing down of the curriculum by insisting on taking out ideas because some people disagree with them.

Queer intersectionality as a part of African American studies? That's a bit insulting.

Why? Queer history (Milk, Stonewall) is taught in APUSH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is there an AP African-American Studies course?

Worse, why is it based in the already-debunked 1619 nyt propaganda project?

Take the AP that interests you and stop whining about what subjects interest other students

Propaganda should not be in our schools.

That course stinks of obvious propaganda.

If you want to dull and misinform yourself, buy a book and read it. But don't force bs on others, much less hijacking educational channels.

When a sliver of history is falsely labeled "propaganda" you lose the debate. There is merit to the African-American story within the broader US History. If you don't have interest in it, that is your right to ignore it, but just because you want to be ignorant doesn't mean others have to be ignorant.

+1. And the proposed readings seem totally appropriate. I doubt I'd agree with all of the opinions in them, but by the time you're taking a course of this level you should be able to read controversial opinions to understand them. I don't get the dumbing down of the curriculum by insisting on taking out ideas because some people disagree with them.

Queer intersectionality as a part of African American studies? That's a bit insulting.

Why? Queer history (Milk, Stonewall) is taught in APUSH.

SHHHH, now you've done it, they'll be coming for APUSH next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is there an AP African-American Studies course?

Worse, why is it based in the already-debunked 1619 nyt propaganda project?

Take the AP that interests you and stop whining about what subjects interest other students

Propaganda should not be in our schools.

That course stinks of obvious propaganda.

If you want to dull and misinform yourself, buy a book and read it. But don't force bs on others, much less hijacking educational channels.

When a sliver of history is falsely labeled "propaganda" you lose the debate. There is merit to the African-American story within the broader US History. If you don't have interest in it, that is your right to ignore it, but just because you want to be ignorant doesn't mean others have to be ignorant.

+1. And the proposed readings seem totally appropriate. I doubt I'd agree with all of the opinions in them, but by the time you're taking a course of this level you should be able to read controversial opinions to understand them. I don't get the dumbing down of the curriculum by insisting on taking out ideas because some people disagree with them.

Queer intersectionality as a part of African American studies? That's a bit insulting.

Why? Queer history (Milk, Stonewall) is taught in APUSH.

Section 4 also includes “Black Queer Studies.” A description states: “This topic explores the concept of queer color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies towards racial analysis.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not even dog whistlin’ Dixie anymore

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/us/desantis-florida-ap-african-american-studies.amp.html


Those cultural marxists at the College Board!

"National outrage ensued after the state rejected an AP African American Studies course, but a copy of the syllabus obtained by The Florida Standard shows the course sought to teach progressive doctrines such as intersectionality and Critical Race Theory.

Section 4 of the syllabus introduces the topic “Postracial Racism and Colorblindness” and features texts from Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, who employs Critical Race Theory in his writings...describes how “Whites talk, think, and account for the existence of racial inequality and makes clear that color-blind racism is as insidious now as ever.” ... Section 4 also includes “Black Queer Studies.” A description states: “This topic explores the concept of queer color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies towards racial analysis.”

https://www.theflstandard.com/exclusive-rejected-a...sectionality-and-queer-theory/


Go on crazies, keep on defending this crazy course and attacking Florida for daring say it didn't meet quality standards

You’re the one citing a far right wing propaganda source like it’s reality based.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is there an AP African-American Studies course?

Exactly. I found this....

AP African American Studies is in development and being piloted in select U.S. high schools through 2024. 

Course Development Timeline

2022-23 First pilot at 60 schools across the country.
2023-24 Pilot expands to hundreds of additional high schools.
2024-25 All schools can begin offering AP African American Studies.
Spring 2025 First AP African American Studies Exams are administered.

https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/about-ap/how-ap-develops-courses-and-exams/pilot-ap-african-american-studies

And, then I found this....

EXCLUSIVE: Rejected African American Studies Course in Florida Features CRT, Intersectionality and Queer Theory
National outrage ensued after the state rejected an AP African American Studies course, but a copy of the syllabus obtained by The Florida Standard shows the course sought to teach progressive doctrines such as intersectionality and Critical Race Theory.

TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA — Governor Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Education (FDOE) once again made national headlines on Wednesday after the state rejected an Advanced Placement (AP) African American Studies course. The Florida Standard obtained a copy of the course syllabus and reviewed the proposed material. Topics include “Black Queer Studies” and “Postracial Racism and Colorblindness.”
On January 12, the FDOE’s Office of Articulation sent a letter notifying the College Board that the state was rejecting its request for state approval of the course. The letter stated that “as presented, the content of this course is inexplicably contrary to Florida law and significantly lacks educational value.” At the same time, the letter notes that “in the future, should College Board be willing to come back to the table with lawful, historically accurate content, FDOE will always be willing to reopen the discussion.”
CRITICAL RACE THEORY
Section 4 of the syllabus introduces the topic “Postracial Racism and Colorblindness” and features texts from Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, who employs Critical Race Theory in his writings.
Eduardo Bonilla-Silva’s book Racism without Racists describes how “Whites talk, think, and account for the existence of racial inequality and makes clear that color-blind racism is as insidious now as ever.” The book’s second chapter, entitled “What is Systemic Racism? Coming to Terms with How Racism Shapes ‘All’ Whites (and Non-Whites)” explains how “all members of society participate in structural racism,” according to an online summary.

Section 4 also includes “Black Queer Studies.” A description states: “This topic explores the concept of queer color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies towards racial analysis.”

https://www.theflstandard.com/exclusive-rejected-african-american-studies-course-in-florida-features-crt-intersectionality-and-queer-theory/

How about we stick with American History and study notable people from all races??????

How about we stick with English instead of learning all those foreign languages?

[Anonymous]

I would need to see the exact curriculum to know how to feel about this.

Nowadays, a lot of gender ideology and other white liberal priorities are snuck in using black history as a smokescreen. There’s a lot of forced teaming of blacks with random ideologies we didn’t come up with and people who had nothing to do with our struggle. There’s also a tendency to portray blackness as negative and wholly characterized by suffering at the hands of whites — all under the guise of “sympathizing” with us. It’s insidious.

So, who knows what was bundled with actual black history in this AP African American history course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would need to see the exact curriculum to know how to feel about this.

Nowadays, a lot of gender ideology and other white liberal priorities are snuck in using black history as a smokescreen. There’s a lot of forced teaming of blacks with random ideologies we didn’t come up with and people who had nothing to do with our struggle. There’s also a tendency to portray blackness as negative and wholly characterized by suffering at the hands of whites — all under the guise of “sympathizing” with us. It’s insidious.

So, who knows what was bundled with actual black history in this AP African American history course.

Google and you shall receive. There is no syllabus yet, because it’s in pilot form. Whic is why DeSantis rejecting the course (the contents of which are not final) is ridiculous. But here is a basic rundown and info:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/31/us/ap-african-american-studies.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare It basically African history (including the history OF Africa) and the African diaspora.