Britney Griner deal

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We should not be negotiating for hostages. This just puts a target on the back of all Americans when they travel. Bad actors have been reminded yet again that we have a price.


You don’t understand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should not be negotiating for hostages. This just puts a target on the back of all Americans when they travel. Bad actors have been reminded yet again that we have a price.


You don’t understand.


PP here. Don’t understand what? That a foreign government grabbed a U.S. citizen as a pawn to get back its arms dealer and we caved?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should not be negotiating for hostages. This just puts a target on the back of all Americans when they travel. Bad actors have been reminded yet again that we have a price.


You don’t understand.


PP here. Don’t understand what? That a foreign government grabbed a U.S. citizen as a pawn to get back its arms dealer and we caved?


Oh gosh. I was going to ask about your training and experience in diplomacy and international relations, but nvm.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should not be negotiating for hostages. This just puts a target on the back of all Americans when they travel. Bad actors have been reminded yet again that we have a price.


You don’t understand.


PP here. Don’t understand what? That a foreign government grabbed a U.S. citizen as a pawn to get back its arms dealer and we caved?


Oh gosh. I was going to ask about your training and experience in diplomacy and international relations, but nvm.


It’s actually deep and extensive. But still, pls explain what I don’t understand.
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Anonymous wrote:They left the marine behind.

Why on earth would anybody volunteer for the military under these leaders?



He’s not a Marine. He is an ex-marine. He received a bad conduct discharge. He’s no great American hero.


And Biden has pledged to keep trying to bring him back to America. Guess he's not that bad



He has to because republicans have latched onto him and he’s an “American”. Clearly not a top priority though as he still isn’t out and even trump didn’t bother working to get him back.


This is false, according to John Bolton.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/08/trump-turned-down-viktor-bout-for-paul-whelan-prisoner-swap-john-bolton/

Yes, the merchant of death is truly THAT BAD.

John Bolton and the NY Post aren’t super reliable sources, are they?

Whelan’s sister tried in vain to get Trump to exert himself a bit. Whelan himself begged Trump to even just tweet about him. There’s a whole paper trail of their efforts. But believe what you want.


Maybe Whelan is an idiot and got caught being an idiot and maybe Griner is an idiot who ignored state department travel warning and maybe trading an arms dealer who tried to kill Americans for either is a bad trade
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should not be negotiating for hostages. This just puts a target on the back of all Americans when they travel. Bad actors have been reminded yet again that we have a price.


You don’t understand.


PP here. Don’t understand what? That a foreign government grabbed a U.S. citizen as a pawn to get back its arms dealer and we caved?

+1
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They left the marine behind.

Why on earth would anybody volunteer for the military under these leaders?



He’s not a Marine. He is an ex-marine. He received a bad conduct discharge. He’s no great American hero.


And Biden has pledged to keep trying to bring him back to America. Guess he's not that bad



He has to because republicans have latched onto him and he’s an “American”. Clearly not a top priority though as he still isn’t out and even trump didn’t bother working to get him back.


This is false, according to John Bolton.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/08/trump-turned-down-viktor-bout-for-paul-whelan-prisoner-swap-john-bolton/

Yes, the merchant of death is truly THAT BAD.

John Bolton and the NY Post aren’t super reliable sources, are they?

Whelan’s sister tried in vain to get Trump to exert himself a bit. Whelan himself begged Trump to even just tweet about him. There’s a whole paper trail of their efforts. But believe what you want.


Maybe Whelan is an idiot and got caught being an idiot and maybe Griner is an idiot who ignored state department travel warning and maybe trading an arms dealer who tried to kill Americans for either is a bad trade

Griner worked in Russia, doing the thing that she won two Olympic gold medals for. She was a pawn to Putin, an especially attractive one because she is Black and gay. He is notoriously anti both things. Which is part of why the MAGA crowd reveres him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We should not be negotiating for hostages. This just puts a target on the back of all Americans when they travel. Bad actors have been reminded yet again that we have a price.


Should we return Trevor Reed? Or do we have a duty to our citizens regardless of circumstances and what they may have done. Let’s leave the Otto Warmblers to die abroad (we may never know if Trump authorized a $2 million payment). Even Pompeo managed to negotiate the release of 3 Americans from the DPRK in 2019. Does it matter if Bergdahl was a US combatant, or just Whelan?
Anonymous
Wow Putin delayed releasing her because he didn’t want to give Biden a win before the midterms.

Republicans: how does it feel to be used and manipulated by Putin? Do you call him Daddy in the bedroom?

Inside the Prisoner Swap That Freed Brittney Griner
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/09/us/politics/brittney-griner-prisoner-swap.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They left the marine behind.

Why on earth would anybody volunteer for the military under these leaders?



He’s not a Marine. He is an ex-marine. He received a bad conduct discharge. He’s no great American hero.


And Biden has pledged to keep trying to bring him back to America. Guess he's not that bad



He has to because republicans have latched onto him and he’s an “American”. Clearly not a top priority though as he still isn’t out and even trump didn’t bother working to get him back.


This is false, according to John Bolton.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/08/trump-turned-down-viktor-bout-for-paul-whelan-prisoner-swap-john-bolton/

Yes, the merchant of death is truly THAT BAD.

John Bolton and the NY Post aren’t super reliable sources, are they?

Whelan’s sister tried in vain to get Trump to exert himself a bit. Whelan himself begged Trump to even just tweet about him. There’s a whole paper trail of their efforts. But believe what you want.


Maybe Whelan is an idiot and got caught being an idiot and maybe Griner is an idiot who ignored state department travel warning and maybe trading an arms dealer who tried to kill Americans for either is a bad trade

Griner worked in Russia, doing the thing that she won two Olympic gold medals for. She was a pawn to Putin, an especially attractive one because she is Black and gay. He is notoriously anti both things. Which is part of why the MAGA crowd reveres him.


She was arrested and sentenced for 9 years for a miniscule quantity of THC that would only have gotten a native Russian a fine and no jail time.

Russians are bastards.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We should not be negotiating for hostages. This just puts a target on the back of all Americans when they travel. Bad actors have been reminded yet again that we have a price.


How did you feel about Trump releasing 5000 Taliban terrorists?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should not be negotiating for hostages. This just puts a target on the back of all Americans when they travel. Bad actors have been reminded yet again that we have a price.


How did you feel about Trump releasing 5000 Taliban terrorists?


And then turning Afghanistan over to them?
Anonymous
The Saudis made the deal and arranged the swap.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Saudis made the deal and arranged the swap.

Not just the Saudis, both MBS and MBZ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should not be negotiating for hostages. This just puts a target on the back of all Americans when they travel. Bad actors have been reminded yet again that we have a price.


Should we return Trevor Reed? Or do we have a duty to our citizens regardless of circumstances and what they may have done. Let’s leave the Otto Warmblers to die abroad (we may never know if Trump authorized a $2 million payment). Even Pompeo managed to negotiate the release of 3 Americans from the DPRK in 2019. Does it matter if Bergdahl was a US combatant, or just Whelan?

FWIW I don’t think Whelan was ever in combat.
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