Highland park IL shooting

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone SEE the shooter? Look at his picture? THERE is your problem right there. He also advertised what he was planning on social media and not one person raised a red flag. He was even known to law enforcement. Nada.


There are an untold number of people in America who suffer from a form of mental illness. The overwhelming majority don’t commit mass murder. Some might get facial tattoos. Many are known to law enforcement from prior contacts. Some spend their waking hours posting crazy sh+t on the internet. (QAnon snyine?) some might even be what you consider to be unattractive. Nobody is monitoring every internet posting. And as far as we know he never explicitly threatened anyone. What’s your point?
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Anonymous wrote:What's it gonna take?
Gun dealers don't have the good sense to raise a red flag when someone looking as mentally deranged as this comes in to buy a gun?



The gun dealers are interested in dollar bills only. They make their living on the blood of our children, parents, brothers and sisters.


I know someone " out there" knows the names of the gun dealers who sold the assault weapons to this Psycho- post the business name and address NOW
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Anonymous wrote:Schumer and Pelosi need to call reps back NOW and force a vote to raise age of ANY rapid fire weapon to 21. Would it have stopped this? Maybe not. But put GOP on the backfoot. Dare them to vote against.


THIS

but make it a FULL Permanent Assault Weapons Ban... and force every Republican to go on record if they Vote Against protecting America

THEN ... with their names on a Blacklist that is run over and over again on Social media and on TV - vote them out of office


Schumer wouldn’t get 50 Dem votes.


Then Vote those Dems out Too !!

First, call everyone back NOW

How Dare they be on Vacation... ( and how dare they have free paid Blue Cross and 1 month paid vacation ) when American children are being gunned down and 10 year olds forced to give birth after being raped


Do you understand the firsr thing about politics?
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Anonymous wrote:Very "timely" fro Hogan with love to Marylanders. Larry, next time the mass shooting happens in Md, it's on you.



Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?

If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)

So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.


But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.


Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.


No moving of goalposts, these are laws that have been on the books for more than 100 years.

With respect to MD's in-depth background check, there is nothing there that could have prevented the recent mass shooters. But a good and reasonable clause would have.


Yes. Now it’s time to get rid of all personally owned firearms and ammunition, as well as the second amendment. Heller was a travesty. Too many people are dying.


So how do you think such a thing will be achieved?

Even if you repealed the second amendment - which is incredibly doubtful anyway - how do you propose to remove the 400,000,000 guns from the 90 million people who own them?

Existing criminals can’t even be disarmed right now. What expectations do you have for disarming 1/3 of this country’s population who were formerly law-abiding who you transformed *into being criminals* when you made their guns illegal?

It’s just not going happen.


she wants the police and military to go door and door and take massive casualties facing desertions and further radicalizing this country into a total war zone.


You buy them back. People who insist on retaining them illegally get prosecuted when caught in possession. Countless countries have done this successfully, many of them are developing countries.


Ok, let’s go along with this for a second:


Make all guns illegal. Prosecute (and then imprison) anyone caught possessing one.


How many prisons do you plan on building? There’s currently 2 million people incarcerated in the country right now.

There are 90 million adults in this country who own guns. Let’s say 20% of them just refuse to give them up. Let’s say half of that group get prosecuted for it and sent to jail.

That’s 9 million people you’ll have to put in prison. The entire population of NYC.


Where are you going to put all of them? What’s going to happen to the economy when you take that many people out of it? What about their families/dependents? Who takes care of them? Do their kids go into foster care? What becomes of their property? Will 9 million foreclosures affect your home value? Extrapolate this into every segment of society that will be affected by a sudden void of millions of people.

How’s this work? I’d really like to hear your answers.


But what you’ll probably do is just call me a “racist” or a “fascist” or maybe both, instead.


Australia - a very much a white male dominated maschismo society - former prison colony no less- passed an assault weapons Ban and had a successful buy back program in the 90's and their mass shootings pretty much ceased :

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-to-prevent-gun-massacres-look-around-the-world

The difference between USA and Australia isn't race or culture - its $$$$$ owning the politicians - there just isn't that much deeply cynical corporate greed anywhere in Australia as compared to the USA

Instead of blaming Biden - or ANY President for that matter- Time to take the matter into our own hands and demand an assault Weapons Ban- anyone who votes against - use social media to publicize and Vote them OUT of office and charge them with corruption
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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone SEE the shooter? Look at his picture? THERE is your problem right there. He also advertised what he was planning on social media and not one person raised a red flag. He was even known to law enforcement. Nada.


There are an untold number of people in America who suffer from a form of mental illness. The overwhelming majority don’t commit mass murder. Some might get facial tattoos. Many are known to law enforcement from prior contacts. Some spend their waking hours posting crazy sh+t on the internet. (QAnon snyine?) some might even be what you consider to be unattractive. Nobody is monitoring every internet posting. And as far as we know he never explicitly threatened anyone. What’s your point?


I do not believe for one second that this young man hasn't shown disturbing behavior since a young age. Too many red flags all around, including his appearance and look in his eyes. If he weren't receiving special education or mental health support, he sure should have been!
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Totally normal. Yep, we CANT tinker with 2A. Who cares if this toddler Found walking around with blood on his shoes is now an orphan. FREEDUM!!!
F You, anyone still supporting GOP who block gun safety measures.
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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone SEE the shooter? Look at his picture? THERE is your problem right there. He also advertised what he was planning on social media and not one person raised a red flag. He was even known to law enforcement. Nada.


There are an untold number of people in America who suffer from a form of mental illness. The overwhelming majority don’t commit mass murder. Some might get facial tattoos. Many are known to law enforcement from prior contacts. Some spend their waking hours posting crazy sh+t on the internet. (QAnon snyine?) some might even be what you consider to be unattractive. Nobody is monitoring every internet posting. And as far as we know he never explicitly threatened anyone. What’s your point?


He violated no law and none of the red flags in IL law. Law enforcement cannot monitor round the clock the 10s of millions of Americans with mental health issues. Ban the riffles.
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Anonymous wrote:Totally normal. Yep, we CANT tinker with 2A. Who cares if this toddler Found walking around with blood on his shoes is now an orphan. FREEDUM!!!
F You, anyone still supporting GOP who block gun safety measures.


This is so tragic. I hope he has so much love surrounding him. Dear god my heart breaks.
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Anonymous wrote:Shooter lived at home with dad.
Had no job. Yet able to purchase 5 rifles legally with no questions asked even after police confiscated 17 knives due to apparent suicide threats. Just as our founding fathers intended.


Who is the " family member " who called police Twice until they showed up and confiscated 17 Knives and how/ why was EVERYONE apparently MIA as this psycho amassed an arsenal of military grade assault rifles and posted videos about his intentions ???

Did this family have breakfast and dinner together ? Could anyone not tell that this kid was off the deep end...

His " uncle " says publicly, " I saw him when I visited but I didn't interact with him" WHAT ???? what kind of family is that ???


How in the hell did this guy pass a background check?
I said earlier that I was certain there were red flags with this shooter. I was right.

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Anonymous wrote:Very "timely" fro Hogan with love to Marylanders. Larry, next time the mass shooting happens in Md, it's on you.



Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?

If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)

So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.


But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.


Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.


No moving of goalposts, these are laws that have been on the books for more than 100 years.

With respect to MD's in-depth background check, there is nothing there that could have prevented the recent mass shooters. But a good and reasonable clause would have.


Yes. Now it’s time to get rid of all personally owned firearms and ammunition, as well as the second amendment. Heller was a travesty. Too many people are dying.


So how do you think such a thing will be achieved?

Even if you repealed the second amendment - which is incredibly doubtful anyway - how do you propose to remove the 400,000,000 guns from the 90 million people who own them?

Existing criminals can’t even be disarmed right now. What expectations do you have for disarming 1/3 of this country’s population who were formerly law-abiding who you transformed *into being criminals* when you made their guns illegal?

It’s just not going happen.


she wants the police and military to go door and door and take massive casualties facing desertions and further radicalizing this country into a total war zone.


You buy them back. People who insist on retaining them illegally get prosecuted when caught in possession. Countless countries have done this successfully, many of them are developing countries.


Ok, let’s go along with this for a second:


Make all guns illegal. Prosecute (and then imprison) anyone caught possessing one.


How many prisons do you plan on building? There’s currently 2 million people incarcerated in the country right now.

There are 90 million adults in this country who own guns. Let’s say 20% of them just refuse to give them up. Let’s say half of that group get prosecuted for it and sent to jail.

That’s 9 million people you’ll have to put in prison. The entire population of NYC.


Where are you going to put all of them? What’s going to happen to the economy when you take that many people out of it? What about their families/dependents? Who takes care of them? Do their kids go into foster care? What becomes of their property? Will 9 million foreclosures affect your home value? Extrapolate this into every segment of society that will be affected by a sudden void of millions of people.

How’s this work? I’d really like to hear your answers.


But what you’ll probably do is just call me a “racist” or a “fascist” or maybe both, instead.


Australia - a very much a white male dominated maschismo society - former prison colony no less- passed an assault weapons Ban and had a successful buy back program in the 90's and their mass shootings pretty much ceased :

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-to-prevent-gun-massacres-look-around-the-world

The difference between USA and Australia isn't race or culture - its $$$$$ owning the politicians - there just isn't that much deeply cynical corporate greed anywhere in Australia as compared to the USA

Instead of blaming Biden - or ANY President for that matter- Time to take the matter into our own hands and demand an assault Weapons Ban- anyone who votes against - use social media to publicize and Vote them OUT of office and charge them with corruption


I think you might want to become better familiarized with Aussie politics before opining. There’s plenty of cynical corporate greed, most notably the mineral extraction industry. Then there’s the Murdoch family and it’s control of print and broadcast news media.
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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone SEE the shooter? Look at his picture? THERE is your problem right there. He also advertised what he was planning on social media and not one person raised a red flag. He was even known to law enforcement. Nada.


There are an untold number of people in America who suffer from a form of mental illness. The overwhelming majority don’t commit mass murder. Some might get facial tattoos. Many are known to law enforcement from prior contacts. Some spend their waking hours posting crazy sh+t on the internet. (QAnon snyine?) some might even be what you consider to be unattractive. Nobody is monitoring every internet posting. And as far as we know he never explicitly threatened anyone. What’s your point?


He violated no law and none of the red flags in IL law. Law enforcement cannot monitor round the clock the 10s of millions of Americans with mental health issues. Ban the riffles.

Wasn’t it illegal to have those weapons in Highland Park? How long did he have them and did he when the police came for the violent threats?
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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone SEE the shooter? Look at his picture? THERE is your problem right there. He also advertised what he was planning on social media and not one person raised a red flag. He was even known to law enforcement. Nada.


There are an untold number of people in America who suffer from a form of mental illness. The overwhelming majority don’t commit mass murder. Some might get facial tattoos. Many are known to law enforcement from prior contacts. Some spend their waking hours posting crazy sh+t on the internet. (QAnon snyine?) some might even be what you consider to be unattractive. Nobody is monitoring every internet posting. And as far as we know he never explicitly threatened anyone. What’s your point?


He violated no law and none of the red flags in IL law. Law enforcement cannot monitor round the clock the 10s of millions of Americans with mental health issues. Ban the riffles.


Totally disagree. Our country has tipped way over trying to protect the rights of criminals and the mentally ill. They need to be insttutionalized, in group home supervision, and/or under forced medications.
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Anonymous wrote:Shooter lived at home with dad.
Had no job. Yet able to purchase 5 rifles legally with no questions asked even after police confiscated 17 knives due to apparent suicide threats. Just as our founding fathers intended.


Who is the " family member " who called police Twice until they showed up and confiscated 17 Knives and how/ why was EVERYONE apparently MIA as this psycho amassed an arsenal of military grade assault rifles and posted videos about his intentions ???

Did this family have breakfast and dinner together ? Could anyone not tell that this kid was off the deep end...

His " uncle " says publicly, " I saw him when I visited but I didn't interact with him" WHAT ???? what kind of family is that ???


How in the hell did this guy pass a background check?
I said earlier that I was certain there were red flags with this shooter. I was right.



Just ban assault weapons. It's not hard guys. if you want to shoot one of these weapons sign up for the military, or go to Ukraine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Shooter lived at home with dad.
Had no job. Yet able to purchase 5 rifles legally with no questions asked even after police confiscated 17 knives due to apparent suicide threats. Just as our founding fathers intended.


Who is the " family member " who called police Twice until they showed up and confiscated 17 Knives and how/ why was EVERYONE apparently MIA as this psycho amassed an arsenal of military grade assault rifles and posted videos about his intentions ???

Did this family have breakfast and dinner together ? Could anyone not tell that this kid was off the deep end...

His " uncle " says publicly, " I saw him when I visited but I didn't interact with him" WHAT ???? what kind of family is that ???


How in the hell did this guy pass a background check?
I said earlier that I was certain there were red flags with this shooter. I was right.



He passed the background check and obtained a FOID from the State Police because he had no criminal record or file with the Department of Human Services relating to mental illness (that is, he was never put on a psych hold, voluntarily admitted to a psychiatric care faculty or adjudicated to be a clear and present danger).
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