4-6th graders FLE all genders together and more

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Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.

What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?

No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.

Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.

You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.

Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.

For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!

The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.

It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.

If you gave read this thread there have been many parents supporting this change.

It’s not something I feel passionately about and I wouldn’t push for it but I support this change. Seems like a better approach. And is how we did it back in the 80s (not FCPS).

If teachers are having issues with classroom management in general then maybe FCPS should invest in more teacher training.

Haha! More teacher bashing. More training is not going to help kids not control their giggles of a diagram of a penis. Again, maybe FCPS should require parents come in and teach this.

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Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.

What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?

No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.

Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.

You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.

Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.

For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!

The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.

It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.

This is NOT the fault of the "left." I'm way left myself, AND I was an FLE teacher, and I HATED that curriculum and am horrified at the idea of boys and girls not being separated for it. And by the way, at the time I started teaching it, the school board was mostly red (although no one cared much about it at the time), the state was red, and no one even talked about VA being anything but red. And I've seen the recent curriculum and if anything, it's actually a bit less explicit than it was a few years back.

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New Poster Here: I have taught FLE for 15+ years to fourth graders. I cannot imagine combining genders for this age group. The kids are mortified as it is. Mixing genders in middle school seems to be appropriate, IMO.

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Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.

What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?

No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.

Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.

You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.

Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.

For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!

The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.

It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.

If you gave read this thread there have been many parents supporting this change.

It’s not something I feel passionately about and I wouldn’t push for it but I support this change. Seems like a better approach. And is how we did it back in the 80s (not FCPS).

If teachers are having issues with classroom management in general then maybe FCPS should invest in more teacher training.

Haha! More teacher bashing. More training is not going to help kids not control their giggles of a diagram of a penis. Again, maybe FCPS should require parents come in and teach this.

OMG PP is so clueless. I actually had co-ed sex ed back in the 80's in high school - in a small parochial school of all places - and it was a very body-negative and gender-negative experience. They showed us explicit photos (in Christian school, I know, so weird) and even a birth video (showing everything). The horrible comments that the boys in our class made for the next couple of days was so demeaning and humiliating.

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Anonymous wrote:New Poster Here: I have taught FLE for 15+ years to fourth graders. I cannot imagine combining genders for this age group. The kids are mortified as it is. Mixing genders in middle school seems to be appropriate, IMO.

Parent of a middle-schooler. No, not appropriate there either. Middle-schoolers pretty much live in a state of mortification already.

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Anonymous wrote:New Poster Here: I have taught FLE for 15+ years to fourth graders. I cannot imagine combining genders for this age group. The kids are mortified as it is. Mixing genders in middle school seems to be appropriate, IMO.

+1 I taught FLE for 7 years to 5th graders. Absolutely wouldn’t want them combined.

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Anonymous wrote:Not all parents who want separate classes are terrified of trans kids or information students would learn about them. Some parents regularly have to reteach, provide context or flat out correct information taught in schools. That is par for the course for parents of color for example and this would be no different if "being afraid" was the issue.

Some of us genuinely want an environment where our kids can learn the best and feel comfortable asking questions. Nothing about separating kids by gender is harmful if both groups get the same information. Let the trans kids go with the gender they identify with.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.

What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?

No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.

And yet, apparently, it's true.

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Anonymous wrote:New Poster Here: I have taught FLE for 15+ years to fourth graders. I cannot imagine combining genders for this age group. The kids are mortified as it is. Mixing genders in middle school seems to be appropriate, IMO.

Parent of a middle-schooler. No, not appropriate there either. Middle-schoolers pretty much live in a state of mortification already.

I’m PP- this may be true. I don’t have much experience with that age group.

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Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.

What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?

No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.

Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.

You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.

Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.

For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!

The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.

It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.

This is NOT the fault of the "left." I'm way left myself, AND I was an FLE teacher, and I HATED that curriculum and am horrified at the idea of boys and girls not being separated for it. And by the way, at the time I started teaching it, the school board was mostly red (although no one cared much about it at the time), the state was red, and no one even talked about VA being anything but red. And I've seen the recent curriculum and if anything, it's actually a bit less explicit than it was a few years back.

Did I say it was the fault of the "left"?

No, I said the extreme politically left activits are driving it.

Not normal liberals. Not left of center.

The extreme left activists. They are different from your run of the mill liberal.

If you watched any of our school board meetings, you would see that they are not normal liberals. They are extremists, and they are there for politics, not for children. Many like childless Frisch have been very explicit that they are not on the board for children or for education.

He is there for far left activism, dogs, and a political stepping stone.

He, and others on the board are activists. There are many.

Please, watch the school board meetings and dive into board docs.

I suspect you will be campaigning against the ideologues in the current board in the 2023 dem primaries.

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Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.

What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?

No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.

Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.

You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.

Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.

For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!

The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.

It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.

If you gave read this thread there have been many parents supporting this change.

It’s not something I feel passionately about and I wouldn’t push for it but I support this change. Seems like a better approach. And is how we did it back in the 80s (not FCPS).

If teachers are having issues with classroom management in general then maybe FCPS should invest in more teacher training.

Haha! More teacher bashing. More training is not going to help kids not control their giggles of a diagram of a penis. Again, maybe FCPS should require parents come in and teach this.

So the big issue is …. giggling?

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Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.

What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?

No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.

Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.

You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.

Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.

For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!

The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.

It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.

This is NOT the fault of the "left." I'm way left myself, AND I was an FLE teacher, and I HATED that curriculum and am horrified at the idea of boys and girls not being separated for it. And by the way, at the time I started teaching it, the school board was mostly red (although no one cared much about it at the time), the state was red, and no one even talked about VA being anything but red. And I've seen the recent curriculum and if anything, it's actually a bit less explicit than it was a few years back.

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Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.

What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?

No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.

Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.

You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.

Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.

For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!

The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.

It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.

If you gave read this thread there have been many parents supporting this change.

It’s not something I feel passionately about and I wouldn’t push for it but I support this change. Seems like a better approach. And is how we did it back in the 80s (not FCPS).

If teachers are having issues with classroom management in general then maybe FCPS should invest in more teacher training.

Haha! More teacher bashing. More training is not going to help kids not control their giggles of a diagram of a penis. Again, maybe FCPS should require parents come in and teach this.

So the big issue is …. giggling?

Umm, do you have kids? Girls? Or boys? Or were you ever a kid?

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Why can’t there be three groups? One group for females, one for males and one combined. Parents and students could chose whether they want single sex or combined class. The district and schools would get feedback on which was the preference of most students and families. Teachers could provide feedback on if more questions were being asked in single sex vs combined groups.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t there be three groups? One group for females, one for males and one combined. Parents and students could chose whether they want single sex or combined class. The district and schools would get feedback on which was the preference of most students and families. Teachers could provide feedback on if more questions were being asked in single sex vs combined groups.

Fcps won't do tuis because if given a choice, no one would choose the combined gender class, except maybe one or two kids whose parents are extreme.