4-6th graders FLE all genders together and more

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.


What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?


No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.


Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.


No matter how many times activists repeat this trope, it still is an untruth.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.


What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?


No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.


Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.


You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.


+1 Hell yes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We were never separated in Fairfax County, in the late 80s and early 90s.

When did that start??


Where I went to school, we were separated.

Coed sex ed? Mortifying.


Not really. I had coed sex ed back in the 80s. It’s no big deal.



In ES? Most Sex Ed happens in high schools. I am from the NorthEast and we did not have this type of instruction in 4-6th grade. Started in health class in 8-12.


Different poster, I also had coed sex ed classes, similar to what they are doing in FLE, starting in 5th grade. In the mid 1980's in a relatively rural/conservative part of Pennsylvania. I remember one single time they separated boys and girls for a few minutes so that kids could feel more comfortable asking questions (which absolutely no one did). There was more detailed/mature sex ed content in MS and HS.

I have 2 boys, one of whom had FLE this year, and am fine with the kids being together.


I went to school in one of the better districts in MA in the 90’s/early 2000’s.

We had the “puberty talk” in 5th grade and it was desperately sexes. In 7th grade they did a combined “puberty talk” (us kids called it) as the whole grade which wasn’t too large in the town of Hanover. I think 8th grade we learned some more with a health teacher. I remember 8th grade was when our health teacher used baby goldfish crackers on a drawing on the bored to explain swimming sperm. I can’t remember if this was by homeroom or separated by sex but I think it was just as a homeroom. Kids made some goldfish jokes for a while…

In high school we had health class as a special once a week. We learned about STDs and contraception in that class as well as general health practices and wellbeing. This was a designated health teacher. I think all of our health lectures in Hanover, no matter the grade, were with a health teacher (not PE or homeroom teachers but someone who studied to specifically teach health). Of course this could all be different now.

When I taught in FCPS I was surprised they did a puberty talk in fourth grade and more in 5th. It seemed really young to me but I was a “late bloomer” so maybe these days kids really need that earlier.
Anonymous
*different, not desperately. I’m sure I made other errors too but I noticed that after posting lol
Anonymous
Kids are starting puberty earlier these days. There are definitely 5th graders who have boobs, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.


What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?


No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.


Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.


You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.


Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.



For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!


The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.


What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?


No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.


Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.


You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.


Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.



For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!


100% I had a girl cry during 4th grade FLE a few years back. That’s how little she knew beforehand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.


What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?


No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.


Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.


You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.


Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.



For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!


The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.


What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?


No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.


Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.


You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.


Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.



For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!


The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.


It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.


What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?


No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.


Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.


You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.


Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.



For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!


The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.


It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.



If you gave read this thread there have been many parents supporting this change.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.


What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?


No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.


Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.


You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.


Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.



For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!


The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.


It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.



If you gave read this thread there have been many parents supporting this change.


It’s not something I feel passionately about and I wouldn’t push for it but I support this change. Seems like a better approach. And is how we did it back in the 80s (not FCPS).

If teachers are having issues with classroom management in general then maybe FCPS should invest in more teacher training.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.


What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?


No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.


Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.


You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.


Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.



For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!


The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.


It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.



If you gave read this thread there have been many parents supporting this change.


There are one, maybe larents posting repeatedly who are for this.

Talk to your neighbors with kids in fcps

No one with children in school supports this change, except for a tiny segment on the fringe.

Most parents are horrified by the idea, especially parents of girls.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.


What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?


No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.


Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.


You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.


Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.



For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!


The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.


It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.



If you gave read this thread there have been many parents supporting this change.


There are one, maybe larents posting repeatedly who are for this.

Talk to your neighbors with kids in fcps

No one with children in school supports this change, except for a tiny segment on the fringe.

Most parents are horrified by the idea, especially parents of girls.


This is simply not true. It’s the people YOU know in real life because the people we know in real life tend to be a lot like us. So of course your little cohort is dismayed. You are on emotional collapse about it. Most of us are fine with whatever. Keep it separate, don’t, it’s fine either way. It’s parents like you who are absolutely terrified of trans kids or the idea your kids might learn information you can’t control that are so upset.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Following the FCPS School Board meeting last week, and based on the personal testimony of some of its members, it’s clear that they are personally invested in gender indoctrination. For this reason, it is comforting to see teachers posting here that, unlike their activist colleagues, they are not comfortable with the proposed changes affecting our kids. Thank you for speaking up!

FCPS needs to fully disclose to its constituents what consulting businesses or any other third parties are involved in this new approach to teaching sex education through the FLE lessons seeking to involve younger students and contemplating no longer separating them by sex when covering explicit contents.

And, are these third parties profiting in any way from indoctrinating our kids on gender confusion? Also, why is it that FCPS, no longer content with having already fully integrated their radical agenda in all areas of learning, now aims to have the FLE lessons/ Sex Ed to be taught to much younger students without separating them in two groups to address developmental changes according to their respective sex? Last, are these new lessons expected to be taught by teachers or by third parties?

For full transparency, this disclosure needs to be sent to each FCPS family via email and by regular mail, translated in all languages represented in the schools, and with a detailed lesson contents per grade for parents to decide if they want their kids to participate. If they do, then they should be asked to fill out forms to Opt-In, exactly the same way we do for field trips because school staff ensures students have signed consent from a parent or guardian before participating. Unfortunately, Opt-out forms are not collected nor followed through with the same level of efficiency. It is for this reason that Opt-Out forms for FLE lessons and Sex Ed are not the best way to go about it since they are not inclusive of those families where English is not fully understood by the parents who need to consent their kids’ participation, or are rather deceiving in that they don’t represent those families that have no access to the internet. Unfortunately, kids from these families are the most affected by the gender activism at schools without the knowledge or consent of their parents or guardians.

Proactive steps to ensure parental knowledge and consent will save taxpayers a fortune, which otherwise will go to continue enriching law firms hired to defend the activists at the school board from being rightly sued. Most importantly, they will protect students by treating them with the dignity and respect they - and their families - deserve.


What’s gender indoctrination? Is it kind of how some parents do gender reveals and immediately put their fetus into gendered roles? Is it how parents buy their boy babies clothes in primary colors with tricks and dinosaurs and their girl babies clothing with flowers and ruffles and muted colors?


No, gender indoctrination is teaching kids that men can become women and women can become men. It erases basic biology.


Gender isn’t related to biology, it is a social construct dork. Only sex is related to biology and for that matter, there are people born with both male and female reproductive parts, so it isn’t a binary. For real: some of you need FLE.


You just made an argument for keeping hoys and girls seprate for FLE, and limiting GLE to anatomical truths of boys and girls, not political and social whims of a genderless and gender fluid society.

FLE is supposed to be the science of human development, which is indeed boy specific and girl specific, male and female only.


Your children do not exist in isolation of the other sex and how their bodies develop and the societal implications of both sexes development, interaction, and relationships. No, they really don’t need to be separate. That’s like saying science classes should be separated by sex or race or whatever other identifier. Nonsensical.



For all the parents saying ES students do not beed to be separated- please feel free to teach FLE to my 26 10 year olds who cannot handle a kiss in a read aloud book. Parents gave NO idea what it is like!


The parents absolutely do know what its like but their need to push an agenda overrides common sense. They keep going around and around repeating the same nonsense talking points despite actual FLE teachers providing their perspective.


It is not parents pushing this nonsense.

It is outside political activists withough childre , and pur extrwmely political left leaning school board who sees your kids as political pawns for blue Virginia twitter points.

None of this is parent driven and none of this is about the kids.



If you gave read this thread there have been many parents supporting this change.


There are one, maybe larents posting repeatedly who are for this.

Talk to your neighbors with kids in fcps

No one with children in school supports this change, except for a tiny segment on the fringe.

Most parents are horrified by the idea, especially parents of girls.


This is simply not true. It’s the people YOU know in real life because the people we know in real life tend to be a lot like us. So of course your little cohort is dismayed. You are on emotional collapse about it. Most of us are fine with whatever. Keep it separate, don’t, it’s fine either way. It’s parents like you who are absolutely terrified of trans kids or the idea your kids might learn information you can’t control that are so upset.


Everyone I know is a typical northern virginia liberal or left of center dem.

Most of them are not church goers.
Anonymous
Not all parents who want separate classes are terrified of trans kids or information students would learn about them. Some parents regularly have to reteach, provide context or flat out correct information taught in schools. That is par for the course for parents of color for example and this would be no different if "being afraid" was the issue.

Some of us genuinely want an environment where our kids can learn the best and feel comfortable asking questions. Nothing about separating kids by gender is harmful if both groups get the same information. Let the trans kids go with the gender they identify with.
post reply Forum Index » Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS)
Message Quick Reply
Go to: