4-6th graders FLE all genders together and more

[Anonymous]

There is no way I want boys and girls combined in elementary school for FLE.

There is no good reason to combine them. Each group gets the same information. It is way too sensitive and embarrassing for the young kids otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now the board voted to research if they should have 4-6th graders all together for FLE instead of separated by gender. They are also deciding if they should teach elementary school children about gender identity. It’s as if they are just looking to stir the pot. Write to your board member….or the new superintendent. Maybe she will actually listen.

Oh God. Hell no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where did you hear this Op?

The school board voted on it on the 16th.

Please pay attention to what our school board is doing. They are crazy radicals on almost every subject.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

I believe their point in combining the boys and girls for sex ed it to emphasize that there is no gender and that boys can get periods and have children too

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

Separating genders normalizes the idea that these things are private and shameful. And when we separated genders in school, boys and girls classes taught content mostly geared toward their own gender. This is how you get men not understanding exactly what a tampon does, where the clitoris is, etc. That happens a lot, even if the school supposedly has the dame curriculum.

Why do you want the separated, aside from embarrassment to ask questions?

Wrong.

They are combining the genders to teach that there are no genders and that boys have periods and get pregnant too.

This is not about teaching clinical human growth and developmemt. This is about an agenda. It started with mandating tampons in the boys bathrooms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now the board voted to research if they should have 4-6th graders all together for FLE instead of separated by gender. They are also deciding if they should teach elementary school children about gender identity. It’s as if they are just looking to stir the pot. Write to your board member….or the new superintendent. Maybe she will actually listen.

Oh God. Hell no.

Absolutely yes.

This change is about teaching gender identity.

Watch the school board meetings and read their documents. Educate yourself, especially if you have little kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

Only girls? Boys learn all of their stuff, too. Why so prejudiced?

Do boys learn about menstruation in their group?

I can only speak to how they did it when I was in school, but for the puberty/periods/etc. part of health, they separated the boys and girls and each group got their own gender’s video and lesson and then had an “anonymous” Q&A time where we wrote questions on pieces of paper for the teacher to read aloud and respond to anonymously. then when that was done we got the boys’ video and lesson. The boys got both lessons too.

But this change is absolutely a way to push the “boys get pregnant and have periods too!!!!111” angle.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

+1

We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

Separating genders normalizes the idea that these things are private and shameful. And when we separated genders in school, boys and girls classes taught content mostly geared toward their own gender. This is how you get men not understanding exactly what a tampon does, where the clitoris is, etc. That happens a lot, even if the school supposedly has the dame curriculum.

Why do you want the separated, aside from embarrassment to ask questions?

Wrong.

They are combining the genders to teach that there are no genders and that boys have periods and get pregnant too.

This is not about teaching clinical human growth and developmemt. This is about an agenda. It started with mandating tampons in the boys bathrooms.

Okay, crazy person. Settle down. Looks like you did your daily post to dismantle public education by sowing seeds of disinformation. Good job. Your comrades will give you participation points. Now move along.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

Only girls? Boys learn all of their stuff, too. Why so prejudiced?

Do boys learn about menstruation in their group?

I can only speak to how they did it when I was in school, but for the puberty/periods/etc. part of health, they separated the boys and girls and each group got their own gender’s video and lesson and then had an “anonymous” Q&A time where we wrote questions on pieces of paper for the teacher to read aloud and respond to anonymously. then when that was done we got the boys’ video and lesson. The boys got both lessons too.

But this change is absolutely a way to push the “boys get pregnant and have periods too!!!!111” angle.

No, this change is so trans kids feels comfortable, because what group would they go with if genders are separated?

FLE is already combined in 7th. It was already bad then. I will not subject my kids to that in Elem school.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

+1

We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

+1

We were never separated out back in the 80s.

+2
Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

[Anonymous]

I feel like combining could make a lot of kids more sympathetic to the opposite gender. If someone has something happening at school, any kids who notices would hopefully know what’s happening and be sympathetic. On the flip side it could cause some kids to be immature and make jokes about tampons or wet dreams or something… idk.. and when it comes to trans kids at least if things are combined they won’t have to feel any awkwardness about going with the group that matches their anatomy.

When it comes to adding gender to the curriculum or something I am honestly against that. I know a trans adult and I think they made the right choice for themself bc they seem happier, but I just think that’s a lot for kids to think about. And I am honestly against surgeries to transition in kids. They aren’t old enough to understand how that can impact their health and finances in the future. Many people do transition back to their original gender that matches their biological sex. If someone is really suffering from gender dysmorphia I think the parents will realize and can get them counseling. But to just tell kids they can change their gender just seems like too much and too confusing to me.

As a kid I could see myself wanting to transition to a boy bc I was afraid of getting a period. I know that sounds crazy but I remember we were told girls get their period once they hit around 100 pounds and for some reason periods scared me so I exercised a lot. I got my period at 13.5, so a normal age but on the older side I think ? But that wasn’t healthy and I wasn’t diagnosed with an eating disorder but my doctor essentially made me gain weight bc I didn’t gain much one year during puberty. I feel like I would’ve asked my parents to block my puberty bc I was afraid of it… I know that sounds ridiculous… but I had no idea people even transitioned when I was a kid in the 90’s/early 2000’s. And my parents are super conservative and would’ve never said yes to that anyway but I think that’s just a lot for kids to even think about. Those with gender dysmorphia will. Those who don’t have that really shouldn’t spend too much time thinking about how one can transition IMO. I just think it’s way too much for kids. I know that may be an unpopular opinion and my thinking might seem weird…. But I’m just not for it.

I have a friend who is a nurse in NY and she said there’s a school where they can give puberty blockers without parents permission. I’m not sure where or if she was right, but that’s insane to me. Once you take those your body never fully goes back to how it was before. I think one should be an adult who had extensive counseling to be able to get hormones and surgeries to transition. Some people who detransition are upset doctors never warned them enough about how it would change the rest of their life. I think that’s way too much for a kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only reason I can think to separate the genders for Sex Ed is because you think the kids might be less embarrassed to ask questions in a single-sex environment; since in my misty memories they’re generally too embarrassed too many questions anyway.

It also avoids liability problems. You won’t need to worry about separating kids by sex and getting a girl in a boys group or a non-binary kid in a girls group.

FCPS does not need to spend money hiring biologists to determine which are the girls so that they can be properly assigned.

This is just more efficient.

[Anonymous]

I think this is a good idea.