1st grade is a bad as we suspected

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I'd love to think that we as a society have learned something from all of this - how important schools are, how to better support families when our society ceases to function as normal, how to better handle future pandemics or health issues - but it's pretty clear that won't happen. All we want to do is cast blame instead of solving the problem and figuring out how to mitigate similar problems in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Look, I had a full-time nanny and kids who did in-person school all of last year, but I'm also not obtuse or rude enough to now acknowledge that many people struggled with having their kids home last year and many people cut corners in various areas just to survive. Blasting parents for not doing a better job disciplining their children last year is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The lack of parental discipline in this country, both pre and post Covid, is what parents should be ashamed of. It’s appalling.

I agree. My kid is in K and his reports (and my own observations at our playground) of 5-7 year olds hitting, pushing and saying things like "I'm going to punch you if you don't do xyz" are absolutely mind boggling.

Oh honey, this is not new in the past 20 years. This has been happening for as long as kids have been kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The people screaming to keep schools closed, including the teacher's unions and their antics, are responsible for this. It was obvious what would happen keeping schools closed this long. Like so freaking obvious, but somehow we have to suspend common sense when it comes to covid and pretend "kids are resilient!". We even had all the virtue signalers saying that people trying to open schools were RACIST and saying that we want to kill black kids. That we just needed to wait for black families to get a vaccine, and yet most of them aren't even getting it. None of them cared about black kids.

All the neurotic parents who wouldn't even let their kids watch tv suddenly about facing that sitting on a screen for 3-5 hours a day "to learn" is ok.

They can't admit that their actions and insistence and their neuroses have screwed up their kids, probably forever in some ways. Kids would have been far better off getting covid than what we put them through.

My kid actually did get covid and it was so freaking trivial I was almost speechless that she lost so much over this NOTHINGBURGER.

You know who else is responsible - the people who demanded we keep EVERYTHING else open instead of keeping SCHOOLS open last year.

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Anonymous wrote:How long will we need to put up with the bad behavior of these kids due to Covid? How would you feel if your kid didn't learn anything day after day due to these extreme behaviors? There are a few classrooms in my school where teachers need to evacuate the classroom daily due to the behavior of a few students. How long would you extend grace to those kids when your kid misses math every day because the kid trashes the classroom after recess?

Longer than I was willing to extend grace to the school administrators/teachers unions that caused my kid to miss a full 15 months of real school.

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Anonymous wrote:The people screaming to keep schools closed, including the teacher's unions and their antics, are responsible for this. It was obvious what would happen keeping schools closed this long. Like so freaking obvious, but somehow we have to suspend common sense when it comes to covid and pretend "kids are resilient!". We even had all the virtue signalers saying that people trying to open schools were RACIST and saying that we want to kill black kids. That we just needed to wait for black families to get a vaccine, and yet most of them aren't even getting it. None of them cared about black kids.

All the neurotic parents who wouldn't even let their kids watch tv suddenly about facing that sitting on a screen for 3-5 hours a day "to learn" is ok.

They can't admit that their actions and insistence and their neuroses have screwed up their kids, probably forever in some ways. Kids would have been far better off getting covid than what we put them through.

My kid actually did get covid and it was so freaking trivial I was almost speechless that she lost so much over this NOTHINGBURGER.

You know who else is responsible - the people who demanded we keep EVERYTHING else open instead of keeping SCHOOLS open last year.

Those people were right. We should have kept everything else open AND schools open.

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I'm so glad we bit the bullet at the start if the 2020 school year and enrolled our kids in an independent school that was open 5 days a week without a single interruption. The sky did not fall and nobody died and for the majority of the school year the entire school was unvaccinated.

We have none of these learning or behavioral problems you all are describing. Love our bubble. Love my kids being in school with families who are not neurotic freaks.

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Anonymous wrote:Not at all surprised to hear that some kids are really struggling to be back in school. Not everyone had parents who could work from home or dedicate hours during the workday to help them with virtual school. There was a kid in my 2nd grader’s class last year who had to do virtual school from his mother’s car. FROM THE CAR. Another kid in the same class was in a different location every day, it seemed, depending on her parents’ work schedule. There were other kids who sort of just disappeared and never logged on. Who knows what their home situation was last year.

So yeah, some kids probably didn’t hear the word “no” very much last year, or had way too much screen time. Maybe that was the best the parents could do given their situation. Hell, some kids have lost family members to COVID.

It’s ironic that we have teachers here saying “I can’t do this, it’s too hard” who are simultaneously blasting parents for not doing more last year when juggling their kids’ virtual school with full time jobs of their own.

DP here. We are blaming the behavioral issues on the parents. If it was just learning loss I think that would be easier to understand. But it’s the abysmal behavior too.

The behavioral issues were caused or greatly exacerbated by school closures. School is a vastly different behavioral environment than home - many more demands, structure, routines, and of course other kids. After the first few months of the pandemic, when we let things like bedtime slide because ... time seemed to have little meaning ... we kept up basic behavioral requirements at home. But the environment was still massively different with many fewer demands on my DS. So yeah, return to school presented a huge behavioral challenge. I believe he had also gotten depressed around March 2021 but I didn't really realize it because it looked like irritability. After almost two months of school he is FINALLY turning things around thanks to a ton of support. But blaming his behavioral issues on me? NO way.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad we bit the bullet at the start if the 2020 school year and enrolled our kids in an independent school that was open 5 days a week without a single interruption. The sky did not fall and nobody died and for the majority of the school year the entire school was unvaccinated.

We have none of these learning or behavioral problems you all are describing. Love our bubble. Love my kids being in school with families who are not neurotic freaks.

??? Many of us would have loved to have done this but could not/cannot afford it. Thanks for being an a$$hole though.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Look, I had a full-time nanny and kids who did in-person school all of last year, but I'm also not obtuse or rude enough to now acknowledge that many people struggled with having their kids home last year and many people cut corners in various areas just to survive. Blasting parents for not doing a better job disciplining their children last year is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The lack of parental discipline in this country, both pre and post Covid, is what parents should be ashamed of. It’s appalling.

I agree that the lack of discipline is shameful, but Covid was a different story. Parents were tasked with educating and disciplining their children while also performing full time jobs. It was quite literally an impossible task.

Exactly. At the lack of sounding cliche ... this is truly unprecedented times. Quite literally, parents have never been asked to do what they were asked to do last school year. Trust me that my mom and I argued about this because she acted like it was no big deal what was happening but lord knows she never had to do anything like this raising my sister and me.

My mom, too. She thought it was like when she was a SAHM, and I reminded her that (1) we were always IN school, like physically there, and (2) she was deliberately NOT trying to work a full-time, non-parenting job *while simultaneously* caring for us, let alone serving as a paraeducator. That people are still not giving parents grace on this front, are still lacking empathy, is so disheartening.

Just how long are we and our kids supposed to "give grace"? Especially when "giving grace" is code for the well-behaved, on-task kids who want to learn putting up with the never-ending disruption of the kids who have apparently gone off the rails since last year.

If you failed to advocate to open schools ... then you can give grace FOREVER as far as I'm concerned. My child's behavioral issues are directly related to school closure and the loss of his IEP services and a normal social environment. I tried as hard as I could to get him back in school but teachers went on strike. So yeah, reap what you sew.

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Anonymous wrote:The people screaming to keep schools closed, including the teacher's unions and their antics, are responsible for this. It was obvious what would happen keeping schools closed this long. Like so freaking obvious, but somehow we have to suspend common sense when it comes to covid and pretend "kids are resilient!". We even had all the virtue signalers saying that people trying to open schools were RACIST and saying that we want to kill black kids. That we just needed to wait for black families to get a vaccine, and yet most of them aren't even getting it. None of them cared about black kids.

All the neurotic parents who wouldn't even let their kids watch tv suddenly about facing that sitting on a screen for 3-5 hours a day "to learn" is ok.

They can't admit that their actions and insistence and their neuroses have screwed up their kids, probably forever in some ways. Kids would have been far better off getting covid than what we put them through.

My kid actually did get covid and it was so freaking trivial I was almost speechless that she lost so much over this NOTHINGBURGER.

tattoo this on my forehead. and I say this as someone whose neuroses actually did end up restricting my kid more than necessary ... at first. Thankfully my DH was more insistent on returning to normal life for the sake of our child.

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Anonymous wrote:How long will we need to put up with the bad behavior of these kids due to Covid? How would you feel if your kid didn't learn anything day after day due to these extreme behaviors? There are a few classrooms in my school where teachers need to evacuate the classroom daily due to the behavior of a few students. How long would you extend grace to those kids when your kid misses math every day because the kid trashes the classroom after recess?

That kind of stuff happened before COVID as well. My best friend was a kindergarten teacher at a very poorly performing public school and she dealt with this kind of stuff long before kids were home for a year due to a pandemic.

If you don't like what's happening at your neighborhood school, send your kid to private school or move. Or adjust your expectations and stop expecting everything to revolve around your child.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad we bit the bullet at the start if the 2020 school year and enrolled our kids in an independent school that was open 5 days a week without a single interruption. The sky did not fall and nobody died and for the majority of the school year the entire school was unvaccinated.

We have none of these learning or behavioral problems you all are describing. Love our bubble. Love my kids being in school with families who are not neurotic freaks.

??? Many of us would have loved to have done this but could not/cannot afford it. Thanks for being an a$$hole though.

Then do a better job at election time.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad we bit the bullet at the start if the 2020 school year and enrolled our kids in an independent school that was open 5 days a week without a single interruption. The sky did not fall and nobody died and for the majority of the school year the entire school was unvaccinated.

We have none of these learning or behavioral problems you all are describing. Love our bubble. Love my kids being in school with families who are not neurotic freaks.

??? Many of us would have loved to have done this but could not/cannot afford it. Thanks for being an a$$hole though.

Meh. Many people sacrifice to get their kids into independent schools. Also, they don't all cost $50K/year.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad we bit the bullet at the start if the 2020 school year and enrolled our kids in an independent school that was open 5 days a week without a single interruption. The sky did not fall and nobody died and for the majority of the school year the entire school was unvaccinated.

We have none of these learning or behavioral problems you all are describing. Love our bubble. Love my kids being in school with families who are not neurotic freaks.

??? Many of us would have loved to have done this but could not/cannot afford it. Thanks for being an a$$hole though.

Meh. Many people sacrifice to get their kids into independent schools. Also, they don't all cost $50K/year.

Most privates are unaffordable for most people and there were not exactly a million seats last year. Also my kid has an IEP so good luck finding him a spot. But thanks for your super realistic “let them go private” solution.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad we bit the bullet at the start if the 2020 school year and enrolled our kids in an independent school that was open 5 days a week without a single interruption. The sky did not fall and nobody died and for the majority of the school year the entire school was unvaccinated.

We have none of these learning or behavioral problems you all are describing. Love our bubble. Love my kids being in school with families who are not neurotic freaks.

??? Many of us would have loved to have done this but could not/cannot afford it. Thanks for being an a$$hole though.

Meh. Many people sacrifice to get their kids into independent schools. Also, they don't all cost $50K/year.

Well we aren’t all comfortable with Catholic or evangelical Christian either, and those are the ones that are cheaper. How’s the view up there on your high horse?