1st grade is a bad as we suspected

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Look, I had a full-time nanny and kids who did in-person school all of last year, but I'm also not obtuse or rude enough to now acknowledge that many people struggled with having their kids home last year and many people cut corners in various areas just to survive. Blasting parents for not doing a better job disciplining their children last year is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The lack of parental discipline in this country, both pre and post Covid, is what parents should be ashamed of. It’s appalling.

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Anonymous wrote:We also need to talk about the emotional issues, not just academic. So many kids developed anxiety last year and don't know how to handle being around a lot of kids after being isolated for over a year. It's a huge problem.

My kid was fine last year. Now she has OCD about germs and her hands are raw from excessive handwashing. At school before snack time, they made her wash her hands a second time because she touched her hair after the first time. You're not going to get covid, or any transmissible illness for that matter, from touching your own hair. My other child's teacher is emailing us about "dangerous behavior" because sometimes the kids get closer than 6 ft to each other while playing. We have a bunch of paranoid adults in schools transmitting their own irrational anxieties to our children.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Look, I had a full-time nanny and kids who did in-person school all of last year, but I'm also not obtuse or rude enough to now acknowledge that many people struggled with having their kids home last year and many people cut corners in various areas just to survive. Blasting parents for not doing a better job disciplining their children last year is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The lack of parental discipline in this country, both pre and post Covid, is what parents should be ashamed of. It’s appalling.

I agree that the lack of discipline is shameful, but Covid was a different story. Parents were tasked with educating and disciplining their children while also performing full time jobs. It was quite literally an impossible task.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Look, I had a full-time nanny and kids who did in-person school all of last year, but I'm also not obtuse or rude enough to now acknowledge that many people struggled with having their kids home last year and many people cut corners in various areas just to survive. Blasting parents for not doing a better job disciplining their children last year is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The lack of parental discipline in this country, both pre and post Covid, is what parents should be ashamed of. It’s appalling.

I agree that the lack of discipline is shameful, but Covid was a different story. Parents were tasked with educating and disciplining their children while also performing full time jobs. It was quite literally an impossible task.

Exactly. At the lack of sounding cliche ... this is truly unprecedented times. Quite literally, parents have never been asked to do what they were asked to do last school year. Trust me that my mom and I argued about this because she acted like it was no big deal what was happening but lord knows she never had to do anything like this raising my sister and me.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Look, I had a full-time nanny and kids who did in-person school all of last year, but I'm also not obtuse or rude enough to now acknowledge that many people struggled with having their kids home last year and many people cut corners in various areas just to survive. Blasting parents for not doing a better job disciplining their children last year is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The lack of parental discipline in this country, both pre and post Covid, is what parents should be ashamed of. It’s appalling.

I agree that the lack of discipline is shameful, but Covid was a different story. Parents were tasked with educating and disciplining their children while also performing full time jobs. It was quite literally an impossible task.

Exactly. At the RISK of sounding cliche ... this is truly unprecedented times. Quite literally, parents have never been asked to do what they were asked to do last school year. Trust me that my mom and I argued about this because she acted like it was no big deal what was happening but lord knows she never had to do anything like this raising my sister and me.

Oops, edited. Brain isn't fully functioning this morning.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Look, I had a full-time nanny and kids who did in-person school all of last year, but I'm also not obtuse or rude enough to now acknowledge that many people struggled with having their kids home last year and many people cut corners in various areas just to survive. Blasting parents for not doing a better job disciplining their children last year is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The lack of parental discipline in this country, both pre and post Covid, is what parents should be ashamed of. It’s appalling.

I agree. My kid is in K and his reports (and my own observations at our playground) of 5-7 year olds hitting, pushing and saying things like "I'm going to punch you if you don't do xyz" are absolutely mind boggling.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Look, I had a full-time nanny and kids who did in-person school all of last year, but I'm also not obtuse or rude enough to now acknowledge that many people struggled with having their kids home last year and many people cut corners in various areas just to survive. Blasting parents for not doing a better job disciplining their children last year is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The lack of parental discipline in this country, both pre and post Covid, is what parents should be ashamed of. It’s appalling.

I agree that the lack of discipline is shameful, but Covid was a different story. Parents were tasked with educating and disciplining their children while also performing full time jobs. It was quite literally an impossible task.

Exactly. At the lack of sounding cliche ... this is truly unprecedented times. Quite literally, parents have never been asked to do what they were asked to do last school year. Trust me that my mom and I argued about this because she acted like it was no big deal what was happening but lord knows she never had to do anything like this raising my sister and me.

My mom, too. She thought it was like when she was a SAHM, and I reminded her that (1) we were always IN school, like physically there, and (2) she was deliberately NOT trying to work a full-time, non-parenting job *while simultaneously* caring for us, let alone serving as a paraeducator. That people are still not giving parents grace on this front, are still lacking empathy, is so disheartening.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading all these comments blaming parents for not stepping in and teaching their kids, for me shows the problem with our society in a nutshell.

People really seem to have trouble with understanding others, with empathy, and frankly with plain common sense.

The way the US works right now, it is literally impossible for a large chunk of parents to parent well. They don't have the bare minimum time or money or mental capacity or skills, or some combination of the above. Then, their kids grow up and also suck as parents because they never had a chance.

And rather than seeing this fundamental truth, and saying, how can we interrupt this cycle response from so many is, "Well, I did it, so why can't they?" OR "Well, these other people overcame major poverty and trauma, why can't they?"

People who succeed as parents (in US society overall, but especially with the added stressors of COVID) are either privileged or exceptional or lucky.

There will always be people whose internal strength helps them overcome insane obstacles and thrive. But these are just a few exceptional people. Most people can't just shrug off the legacy of their own childhood trauma and become good parents. Most people can't manage two grueling jobs making $15/hour with constantly changing schedules, bad managers, and abusive customers, and then take care of groceries and bills and cleaning and childcare and find the energy to also be a teacher, oh and to do all of that without a partner.

I am UMC with a partner and pretty minor, run-of-the-mill mental health challenges, and this pandemic nearly broke me. I recognize every day that I was only able to keep things together for my now first grader because of my privilege and frankly luck (easy kid who adjusted easily to Zoom school and seems to pick everything up at school without effort). I seriously do not know how people do it without a partner, without tons of money, without totally losing their minds.

You keep saying they don’t have a partner like is my fault. It’s not. Of course raising kids without a family unit is harder on the mother and way worse for the kids. That’s the reason that sensible people have been trying to encourage black people (since that’s who you’re talking about, so let’s just be honest) to not have children out of wedlock. But then we’ve had all the insane BLM activists telling us that no family unit is not a bad thing at all and we shouldn’t try to change them or encourage them to do things differently because it’s apparently racist.

So sick of this. You want the freedom to have kids without a stable family unit then fine. But don’t whine about how impossible it is.

My wife died. I struggled like this. So, PLEASE JUDGE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm waiting.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Look, I had a full-time nanny and kids who did in-person school all of last year, but I'm also not obtuse or rude enough to now acknowledge that many people struggled with having their kids home last year and many people cut corners in various areas just to survive. Blasting parents for not doing a better job disciplining their children last year is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The lack of parental discipline in this country, both pre and post Covid, is what parents should be ashamed of. It’s appalling.

I agree that the lack of discipline is shameful, but Covid was a different story. Parents were tasked with educating and disciplining their children while also performing full time jobs. It was quite literally an impossible task.

Exactly. At the lack of sounding cliche ... this is truly unprecedented times. Quite literally, parents have never been asked to do what they were asked to do last school year. Trust me that my mom and I argued about this because she acted like it was no big deal what was happening but lord knows she never had to do anything like this raising my sister and me.

My mom, too. She thought it was like when she was a SAHM, and I reminded her that (1) we were always IN school, like physically there, and (2) she was deliberately NOT trying to work a full-time, non-parenting job *while simultaneously* caring for us, let alone serving as a paraeducator. That people are still not giving parents grace on this front, are still lacking empathy, is so disheartening.

Just how long are we and our kids supposed to "give grace"? Especially when "giving grace" is code for the well-behaved, on-task kids who want to learn putting up with the never-ending disruption of the kids who have apparently gone off the rails since last year.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Look, I had a full-time nanny and kids who did in-person school all of last year, but I'm also not obtuse or rude enough to now acknowledge that many people struggled with having their kids home last year and many people cut corners in various areas just to survive. Blasting parents for not doing a better job disciplining their children last year is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The lack of parental discipline in this country, both pre and post Covid, is what parents should be ashamed of. It’s appalling.

I agree that the lack of discipline is shameful, but Covid was a different story. Parents were tasked with educating and disciplining their children while also performing full time jobs. It was quite literally an impossible task.

Exactly. At the lack of sounding cliche ... this is truly unprecedented times. Quite literally, parents have never been asked to do what they were asked to do last school year. Trust me that my mom and I argued about this because she acted like it was no big deal what was happening but lord knows she never had to do anything like this raising my sister and me.

My mom, too. She thought it was like when she was a SAHM, and I reminded her that (1) we were always IN school, like physically there, and (2) she was deliberately NOT trying to work a full-time, non-parenting job *while simultaneously* caring for us, let alone serving as a paraeducator. That people are still not giving parents grace on this front, are still lacking empathy, is so disheartening.

Just how long are we and our kids supposed to "give grace"? Especially when "giving grace" is code for the well-behaved, on-task kids who want to learn putting up with the never-ending disruption of the kids who have apparently gone off the rails since last year.

Well, I expect my kids - and me - to be consistently empathic with people who are legitimately struggling, particularly through no fault of their own. These are *children* who may have faced things like the death of a parent or grandparent, job loss, hunger, etc., and you're whining because Sophia and Henry are being disrupted? Get over yourself. Your kids want to learn? Help them learn how to be empathic with those less fortunate than them.

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The people screaming to keep schools closed, including the teacher's unions and their antics, are responsible for this. It was obvious what would happen keeping schools closed this long. Like so freaking obvious, but somehow we have to suspend common sense when it comes to covid and pretend "kids are resilient!". We even had all the virtue signalers saying that people trying to open schools were RACIST and saying that we want to kill black kids. That we just needed to wait for black families to get a vaccine, and yet most of them aren't even getting it. None of them cared about black kids.

All the neurotic parents who wouldn't even let their kids watch tv suddenly about facing that sitting on a screen for 3-5 hours a day "to learn" is ok.

They can't admit that their actions and insistence and their neuroses have screwed up their kids, probably forever in some ways. Kids would have been far better off getting covid than what we put them through.

My kid actually did get covid and it was so freaking trivial I was almost speechless that she lost so much over this NOTHINGBURGER.

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How long will we need to put up with the bad behavior of these kids due to Covid? How would you feel if your kid didn't learn anything day after day due to these extreme behaviors? There are a few classrooms in my school where teachers need to evacuate the classroom daily due to the behavior of a few students. How long would you extend grace to those kids when your kid misses math every day because the kid trashes the classroom after recess?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a 2nd grade teacher and am quitting after this year to teach at an independent school that didn't have closures last year. The kids are all so behind, the benchmarks I've done are abysmal. Too many behavior problems and many kids who really should be in contained classes. I have 4 kids right now that consume 75% of my time. I simply can't spread myself this thin. Looking forward to.smaller classes and not having to deal with an inclusion classroom with kids who might never catch up.

I hope you were vocal last year about trying to get schools open.

I like my teacher friends and most of them wanted to return to the classroom last fall. But most of them are parents.

I also know some who screamed and cried and said they weren't "daycare" and parents were just selfish teacher killers, even months after getting vaccinated. And now they are crying about how awful their classes are and how stressful it is.

Welcome to the consequences of your actions.

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Anonymous wrote:How long will we need to put up with the bad behavior of these kids due to Covid? How would you feel if your kid didn't learn anything day after day due to these extreme behaviors? There are a few classrooms in my school where teachers need to evacuate the classroom daily due to the behavior of a few students. How long would you extend grace to those kids when your kid misses math every day because the kid trashes the classroom after recess?

Gee, if I knew kids were struggling that much, I’d do what I could to get them the help they need. Because they’re children. And it’s not all about me.

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Anonymous wrote:How long will we need to put up with the bad behavior of these kids due to Covid? How would you feel if your kid didn't learn anything day after day due to these extreme behaviors? There are a few classrooms in my school where teachers need to evacuate the classroom daily due to the behavior of a few students. How long would you extend grace to those kids when your kid misses math every day because the kid trashes the classroom after recess?

The same amount of grace you would want other families to extend to your kid if your kid was having a rough time.