Harvard no longer allowed to enroll international students

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’d rather have the 6000 slots prioritize to go to American kids.


Lots of us-born posters here agree with you. The foreign born ones don’t.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/MtxBYlmOXD

You sound just like the English Americans who didn't want Irish immigrants because they were taking jobs from the English, or how the Irish didn't want Italians because they were taking spots away from the Irish.

And the cycle continues.


And then the UK became too woke, never dealt with its original sin of colonialism, and has now been taken over by Islamic fundamentalists in vast suburban swaths of London.

Not sure that’s working out so well either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Everyone fends for themselves.

In the long run, this is good for America. In the late 90s and 2000s the foreign admit rate was sub 10% for grad and undergraduate.

Innovation seemed to do just fine back then. I seem to remember something called the Internet being invented and the subsequent boom?

Stop freaking out. You guys are just silly.


The issue isn’t the exact %. The issue is that the POTUS shouldn’t be forcing this onto private universities. Especially because it’s being done out of spite.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d rather have the 6000 slots prioritize to go to American kids.


Lots of us-born posters here agree with you. The foreign born ones don’t.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/MtxBYlmOXD


Many US born posters disagree with you. It sounds like just another outgrowth of the insane college admissions discourse
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d rather have the 6000 slots prioritize to go to American kids.


I'd rather American kids be able to access financial aid, and that not only those whose families can afford $90K a year are able to attend. Right now at all these schools, international students are subsidizing U.S. students.


PP again. This also has implications well beyond Harvard. What international student would want to study in the U.S. these days, if they know they can be sent home at a moment's notice? If you have a kid who will be attending college in the next few years--even if Harvard is not at all on your radar--and you cannot pay full freight, you should be very worried. This could drastically change admissions strategies at schools across the board.


My son studied in Italy last year. In the process of obtaining his student visa, we were informed of a list of actions that could get him “sent home at a moments” notice. Getting arrested was one of them.

So what? He was a guest in their country and has to play by their rules.


Again with the stupidity. What students got arrested to warrant getting kicked out of Harvard over the course of one afternoon??? This has nothing to do with the students and everything to do with Trump being a fascist dictator who thinks he can do whatever the hell he wants to whomever he wants.
Anonymous
Seriously, this thread is making me cry because I'm realizing you all are just as selfish and stupid as the MAGAs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone fends for themselves.

In the long run, this is good for America. In the late 90s and 2000s the foreign admit rate was sub 10% for grad and undergraduate.

Innovation seemed to do just fine back then. I seem to remember something called the Internet being invented and the subsequent boom?

Stop freaking out. You guys are just silly.


The issue isn’t the exact %. The issue is that the POTUS shouldn’t be forcing this onto private universities. Especially because it’s being done out of spite.



They stop being “private universities” when they don’t contribute to the tax burden and soak up federal dollars.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:10% makes sense to me. Some graduate programs are SO heavily international. My niece was rejected from a flagship program in her home state that is 50% international. That's not right.



Just because International students have more potential than your niece doesn't make it wrong for international students to study there. Your niece should work harder. International students shouldn't have to suffer for this.


As an American, I have no personal duty or obligation to international students. My country‘s duty and obligation is to its own citizens.

Getting the best and brightest to live and work in our country is looking out for our country. A lot our scientists are immigrants, many who came here as foreign students.


Spoken like a true hypocritical progressive elitist.


+1. God forbid they take a chance on a kid from West Virginia.


And they do, when they are indeed exceptional at something.


It's easier to get in from West Virginia, even. It's how I went to a similar school years ago.


Yup. That’s called DEI.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:10% makes sense to me. Some graduate programs are SO heavily international. My niece was rejected from a flagship program in her home state that is 50% international. That's not right.



Just because International students have more potential than your niece doesn't make it wrong for international students to study there. Your niece should work harder. International students shouldn't have to suffer for this.


As an American, I have no personal duty or obligation to international students. My country‘s duty and obligation is to its own citizens.

Getting the best and brightest to live and work in our country is looking out for our country. A lot our scientists are immigrants, many who came here as foreign students.


Spoken like a true hypocritical progressive elitist.

I am a moderate and far from elitist. My parent were blue collar workers.

What i am is not afraid of my children having to compete with foreigners.


I’m not “afraid” of them having to compete with foreigners either. I just believe that my kids, and yours, should have certain advantages and benefits conveyed to them simply because they are Americans.


That is the definition of being afraid!!!!!


No, it’s not. I have long list of ancestors who fought for this country and the future for their own descendants. It’s now their turn to pick up the baton.


What you want is to be ahead of everyone in the race simply because you're an American. You don't want fair competition and to let the best and the brightest win. You think you are owed the top spot because you were born here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone fends for themselves.

In the long run, this is good for America. In the late 90s and 2000s the foreign admit rate was sub 10% for grad and undergraduate.

Innovation seemed to do just fine back then. I seem to remember something called the Internet being invented and the subsequent boom?

Stop freaking out. You guys are just silly.


The issue isn’t the exact %. The issue is that the POTUS shouldn’t be forcing this onto private universities. Especially because it’s being done out of spite.



They stop being “private universities” when they don’t contribute to the tax burden and soak up federal dollars.


They aren’t “soaking up tax dollars”. They are performing a service.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone fends for themselves.

In the long run, this is good for America. In the late 90s and 2000s the foreign admit rate was sub 10% for grad and undergraduate.

Innovation seemed to do just fine back then. I seem to remember something called the Internet being invented and the subsequent boom?

Stop freaking out. You guys are just silly.


The issue isn’t the exact %. The issue is that the POTUS shouldn’t be forcing this onto private universities. Especially because it’s being done out of spite.



They stop being “private universities” when they don’t contribute to the tax burden and soak up federal dollars.


You clearly know nothing about either taxes or higher education. You believe that no private universities exist? Get some knowledge before you speak.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d rather have the 6000 slots prioritize to go to American kids.


I'd rather American kids be able to access financial aid, and that not only those whose families can afford $90K a year are able to attend. Right now at all these schools, international students are subsidizing U.S. students.


PP again. This also has implications well beyond Harvard. What international student would want to study in the U.S. these days, if they know they can be sent home at a moment's notice? If you have a kid who will be attending college in the next few years--even if Harvard is not at all on your radar--and you cannot pay full freight, you should be very worried. This could drastically change admissions strategies at schools across the board.


My son studied in Italy last year. In the process of obtaining his student visa, we were informed of a list of actions that could get him “sent home at a moments” notice. Getting arrested was one of them.

So what? He was a guest in their country and has to play by their rules.


Again with the stupidity. What students got arrested to warrant getting kicked out of Harvard over the course of one afternoon??? This has nothing to do with the students and everything to do with Trump being a fascist dictator who thinks he can do whatever the hell he wants to whomever he wants.


Plenty of them have gotten themselves arrested for protesting and disturbing the peace. But I realize that is not the conversation here. Point is, countries set their own rules.
Anonymous
Good. For far too long Harvard and alllllll of the ivies have produced a bunch of toxic dbags who've driven this country into the ground. Think of all of the scum Harvard produces like all of the cancers that work on Wall Street, at consulting firms like McKinsey, or in private equity. Harvard is the single most damaging entity in America. It's so ironic how the scum they produce is now coming back to hit them. They ruined American jobs and the middle class for decades, now Harvard is getting its comeuppance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:10% makes sense to me. Some graduate programs are SO heavily international. My niece was rejected from a flagship program in her home state that is 50% international. That's not right.



Just because International students have more potential than your niece doesn't make it wrong for international students to study there. Your niece should work harder. International students shouldn't have to suffer for this.


As an American, I have no personal duty or obligation to international students. My country‘s duty and obligation is to its own citizens.

Getting the best and brightest to live and work in our country is looking out for our country. A lot our scientists are immigrants, many who came here as foreign students.


Spoken like a true hypocritical progressive elitist.

I am a moderate and far from elitist. My parent were blue collar workers.

What i am is not afraid of my children having to compete with foreigners.


I’m not “afraid” of them having to compete with foreigners either. I just believe that my kids, and yours, should have certain advantages and benefits conveyed to them simply because they are Americans.


That is the definition of being afraid!!!!!


No, it’s not. I have long list of ancestors who fought for this country and the future for their own descendants. It’s now their turn to pick up the baton.


What you want is to be ahead of everyone in the race simply because you're an American. You don't want fair competition and to let the best and the brightest win. You think you are owed the top spot because you were born here.


Damn right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Seriously, this thread is making me cry because I'm realizing you all are just as selfish and stupid as the MAGAs.


Because they think they finally have a chance at the trought of something they want to bad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:10% makes sense to me. Some graduate programs are SO heavily international. My niece was rejected from a flagship program in her home state that is 50% international. That's not right.



Just because International students have more potential than your niece doesn't make it wrong for international students to study there. Your niece should work harder. International students shouldn't have to suffer for this.


As an American, I have no personal duty or obligation to international students. My country‘s duty and obligation is to its own citizens.

Getting the best and brightest to live and work in our country is looking out for our country. A lot our scientists are immigrants, many who came here as foreign students.


Spoken like a true hypocritical progressive elitist.

I am a moderate and far from elitist. My parent were blue collar workers.

What i am is not afraid of my children having to compete with foreigners.


I’m not “afraid” of them having to compete with foreigners either. I just believe that my kids, and yours, should have certain advantages and benefits conveyed to them simply because they are Americans.


That is the definition of being afraid!!!!!


No, it’s not. I have long list of ancestors who fought for this country and the future for their own descendants. It’s now their turn to pick up the baton.


My ancestors go back to the Mayflower. Imported Americans are the best kind.
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