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Anonymous
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I prefer giving incentive to goals instead of shutouts. We need more attacking soccer.
But five is a reasonable cap. 13-0? Yeah, that's a coach trying to compensate for a poor career choice or other shortcoming. |
Anonymous
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^^^
It's poorly crafted divisions or teams purposely playing down. Blowouts aren't fun for either side. We have had coach institute a 'weak foot only", no shots on goal, certain # of passes prior to shooting ---frankly that's even more embarrassing for the other team. Clearly--some kids belonged in different divisions. |
Anonymous
Probably. I've seen extremes on dealing with blowouts. Sometimes, it's just a good time to give a kid a chance to play a new position (though at U9 and U10, they're usually moving around a lot anyway). One team was doing nothing but playing half-hearted keepaway, but the other team was so out of it by that point that the ref could've awarded 10 penalty kicks just for the heck of it, and they wouldn't have scored. (Not that such a thing is legal. We did it once in U7 House, but that's a little different.) Then I've also seen a team go all-out for 20 goals. That coach shouldn't be allowed near children. |
Anonymous
Imo naming clubs makes it better. |
but that's how it is? 3 points for a win. 1 point for a tie
Anonymous
Except went it is tonendlessly self-promote...gag. |
Anonymous
Trust me, blowouts are fun for incredibly insecure and obsessed parents who believe that when their U10 kid wins a game 13-0 it means their kid is destined for greatness, and by default, them too. These are the club-hoppers who will chase that "glory" until their kid turns 15 and tells them to F off. |
Anonymous
| Here's another (new?) website to find info about clubs in the NOVA area: www.brilliantclubs.com. |
Anonymous
Fuck off with your spam. |
Anonymous
| What is the consensus on what a coach should do when they are up by 5-6 goals? and it continues to get worse? I've seen...you have to make X passes before you can shoot. That often just embarrasses the other team. Play back to the GK every time...that is OK I guess. Has to use weak foot to shoot...well sometimes that contradicts good decision making. I've seen players removed from the field. Not a fan. All the kids work hard and they should be as much playing time as possible. I've seen players added to the losing team. I'm OK with that but might violate tournament rules. One touch finishes. etc. The problem is that the losing team knows they are being dominated regardless if it's 6-0 and the winning team is passing it around or if it's 10-0 and everyone is working hard. I struggle with what I think is best. Maybe the ref should just end the game but again, the kids deserve the game time. Anyway....what it the consensus? Also, sometimes it's not always about the coach. The coach can restrict but the kids not always listen. |
Anonymous
My son was on an extremely strong team from U9-U10 and faced this dynamic a lot; I've also seen it from the other side, when my daughter's team joined a regional league that ought not to have accepted them. In both cases, it seemed like the losing team is much less happy when the winning team coach tries to keep the score down by mandating x number of passes, removing kids, etc. I do think if a winning team has kids who don't usually start or get much playing time, then the first step should always be to put those kids on for significant chunks of the game, and having kids play out of their normal position is great too. But those things don't help if the whole team is strong and the coach normally rotates kids through various positions. It's kind of counter-intuitive in a way, but in my experience what works best is for the winning coach to make clear he is taking the game seriously. If a game is mismatched, the strong team should be in a position to actually put all the things they work on in practice into play. The coach can use the game to remind the kids that they should look to the flank, keep their heads up when dribbling, pass back if it makes sense, etc.--whatever the things are that the kids tend to forget in the heat of a more even game. It's the perfect time for the coach to get on defenders for reflexively kicking the ball out of bounds under pressure as well. Most losing teams seem to prefer feeling like they are part of a practice session than merely objects of pity. The number one thing that helps? Winning team parents need to limit themselves to the occasional soft clap, if that, after the first few goals, and no one should yell out any praise of their kid for a great play. These games are a time when you can catch up with other team parents without missing any major action. A chatty, friendly winning team sideline is much less likely to inspire rage than one where clueless loudmouth parents are high-fiving each other over their kids' domination. |
Anonymous
The first thing you do is move kids into different positions. This is when the keeper gets to play striker and forwards get to defend,, etc.. The second thing is have kids use their weak foot. The third is to play down a man. Not as important at younger ages but when you get older kids need to learn to play as if someone has been red carded. The fourth thing is to stop cheering goals, parents and players alike. |
Anonymous
That's not bad at all. Blowouts are less common in rec soccer, but I've seen some obnoxious behavior there, too. Like the team whose coach was making a big show about having his players use their weak foot -- defeating the purpose in any case, and especially absurd when only leading by two goals! (Ended up with only a one-goal difference.) Or the parent whose team was up six goals late in a game and yelled out on a corner kick, "OK, now's your chance! Let's get this!" Yeah, OK dude. Teams don't have to make it obvious. Coaches in the blowout years (U9, U10, maybe U11) make a lot of substitutions, anyway. Swap defenders and forwards. Give kids specific instructions on the sideline -- maybe even specific for a particular kid. Don't yell out "weak foot, weak foot!" to the whole team, but maybe take aside a player who has no left foot and tell him to work on it for the rest of the game. There's a huge middle ground between showing up another team with obvious game-killing strategies and roaring for Goal #15. Coaches who throw their hands up and say they can't please everyone "either way" are Neanderthals. |
Anonymous
The third one is kind of humiliating. |
Anonymous
Agree. I would only do this after checking in with the other coach. |
Anonymous
| The thing is some teams are just weak especially at the younger ages. They don't/didn't train enough. They aren't serious. They aren't organized. They run into a well trained, serious, organized, well coached team and you could move the players where ever you want, you can have them use their weak foot (most kids on my son's team can use both feet), you can ask them to pass it around (which is what most of the better teams do anyway), and the weak team is still going to get crushed. On the other hand, sometimes leagues just schedule games where one team is over matched. In NCSL, I'm seeing games between Reston's 1st team and Loudoun's 4th team. Calverton's 1st team against Mclean's 4th team. Plenty of examples of 1st teams against clubs' 3rd teams. Anyway...I think kids just need to be warned that they could get thumped today and that's it's OK and to learn from it. |