Protests on college campuses

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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think there will be incidents at the Olympics? I am concerned about safety for the Israeli and U.S. contingents.


U.S contingent should be fine. Israeli contingent, I don’t know… they will be safe I guess but they will be booed and shamed…. going by what happened at Eurovision.


The booing and shaming will = hideous antisemitic violence in their eyes on par with bombing hospitals
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Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t Greta have autism? What does she know?


More than you.
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Anonymous wrote:In February 1945, Allied bombers set off a firestorm in Dresden, which killed at least 25,000 people, mostly civilians and including some American POWs. If Germany had won the War, the planners of that bombing would have been tried and executed for a war crime. But Germany did not win, and under the conditions of their surrender they forfeited any right to accuse the Allies of such a crime. If Hamas wins this war -- and at the moment they are winning, with the help of American young Quislings -- then Israel will cease to exist and the Jews residing there will be forced to leave or be massacred.

If Hamas surrenders today, the killing will stop tomorrow.
But they won't. They know that the killing of Palestinians is exactly what gives them a strategic advantage in this war.


You lie, and you know it. Shame on you.

You wish to support a bs genocide narrative.


Narrative? 10s of thousands murdered as payment for the actions of a few. Hospitals bombed. New mass graves discovered daily. A deliberate famine.

These are facts not narrative. It is you who wishes to support a false narrative if you choose to deny the basic facts of what is happening.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Howard University cancels graduation https://nypost.com/2024/05/12/us-news/howard-university-graduation-in-chaos-canceled-mid-ceremony/


Did you read the article? Their nursing school ceremony was cancelled due to capacity issues, NOT the ceremony for the whole school. Stop trying to stir s**t up.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Appropriate consequences.



Good. I'm not sure who they think they're rallying to their cause by blocking traffic. Absolutely asinine tactics (which doesn't even get into the absurdity of their message).


For 7 months, Israeli people have been blocking roads and traffic so that aid to Gaza doesn’t pass through, I am sure you had a similar reaction to their asinine tactics.
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I agree that the progressive movement has changed for the worse since my younger days. I feel like 1. there was a really dark shift towards divisiveness and hate/anger over recent years. Caught me completely off guard.

I had people calling me a Social Justice Warrior as recently as five years ago. 2. But the progressive movement has lost its way. Somehow they're now anti gay and lesbian, misogynist, anti-semitic, ageist, and even pro-Russia and Iran. They're hypocritical, hateful and plain mean. I sometimes wonder if the progressive movement is full of extreme right wing satirists, 'cause shit is WILD.


1. And which President and branch of government is responsible for divisiveness, hate, and anger?

2. The progressive movement is anti gay, anti lesbian, misogynist, anti semitic, pro-Russia, pro-Iran? I’ll give you ageist bc you may be in the early dementia stage


If you can’t see the extremely strong undercurrent of everything the PP listed in the progressive movement, you have to be willfully blind at this point. The PP correctly describes the current progressive movement.

What is terrifying to me is I can see, in the current progressive movement, how far leftist political movements can grow that kill millions. I had never viscerally understood that before recent years. I understood how it happened on the right, but I had never understood it from the left. But I do now.

What is terrifying to me is your reply. There are both-side extremist agitators at protests, right here on DCUM, in Gaza (Hamas) and Israel (Netanyahu and ilk). Willfully blind, I am not. Answer the questions above.


Okay, I’ll answer your dumb questions. And yes, you are obviously willfully blind.

1. Which president and branch of government is responsible for divisiveness, hate, and anger?

You don’t seem to understand that the presidency is a branch of government, so I’m a little skeptical of your larger grasp of politics, but I will answer the question I think you are asking. President Trump was extremely effective at stoking anger and grievance, which led to his election. President Obama leaned hard into speech suppression and doctrinaire politics, which also goes hand-in-hand with resentment and anger. Of course, the issue of what has led to rising levels of resentment and anger is a complex question. The idea that a single branch of government or even a single person is solely responsible for divisiveness, hate, and anger is ludicrously simple-minded.

2. The progressive movement is anti gay, anti lesbian, misogynist, anti semitic, pro-Russia, pro-Iran?

Yes.
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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think there will be incidents at the Olympics? I am concerned about safety for the Israeli and U.S. contingents.


U.S contingent should be fine. Israeli contingent, I don’t know… they will be safe I guess but they will be booed and shamed…. going by what happened at Eurovision.


Shame is a word of judgment. So I guess you are happy at the possibility of them being heckled.




My emotions don’t matter, I simply responded based on the facts that unfolded at Eurovision. You can make your own conclusions.


The conclusion is that you used a word reflecting your own judgment (shame) so your emotions are clear. As for me, I think political heckling is NEVER warranted because it is rude and never changes minds. Let us all just start heckling for every cause--soon we will just all be shouting at the same time.


Sensitive to “rude” political heckling but cool with genocide, as long as Jews are doing the immoral killing. Cannot accept the fact that the fate of America isn't (and never will be) tied to the fate of Israel, or that America’s decision to blindly, unconditionally support Israel is discretionary and subject to reevaluation.


No. And the point of my post is that yelling and screaming isn't going to convince me you are right. I just think protestors and disruptors and you all who say the same stuff day day after day on the internet about the issue think you are effective and clever but you are not. Think about it, are children's temper tantrums influential.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Appropriate consequences.



Good. I'm not sure who they think they're rallying to their cause by blocking traffic. Absolutely asinine tactics (which doesn't even get into the absurdity of their message).


For 7 months, Israeli people have been blocking roads and traffic so that aid to Gaza doesn’t pass through, I am sure you had a similar reaction to their asinine tactics.


I'm not going to worry about these protests if you think that logic is going to sway Americans. No one is going to look at these protestors on the freeway and think of how it is in Gaza.
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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think there will be incidents at the Olympics? I am concerned about safety for the Israeli and U.S. contingents.


U.S contingent should be fine. Israeli contingent, I don’t know… they will be safe I guess but they will be booed and shamed…. going by what happened at Eurovision.


Hopefully the Olympics does the right thing and immediately disqualifies any athlete who does not 100% support Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think there will be incidents at the Olympics? I am concerned about safety for the Israeli and U.S. contingents.


U.S contingent should be fine. Israeli contingent, I don’t know… they will be safe I guess but they will be booed and shamed…. going by what happened at Eurovision.


Hopefully the Olympics does the right thing and immediately disqualifies any athlete who does not 100% support Israel.


Most people actually don't think about Israel. We are not actively seeking its destruction. It is in the same category as France, Thailand, Kenya, whatever...a country that exists and that is fine with me.
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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think there will be incidents at the Olympics? I am concerned about safety for the Israeli and U.S. contingents.


U.S contingent should be fine. Israeli contingent, I don’t know… they will be safe I guess but they will be booed and shamed…. going by what happened at Eurovision.


Shame is a word of judgment. So I guess you are happy at the possibility of them being heckled.




My emotions don’t matter, I simply responded based on the facts that unfolded at Eurovision. You can make your own conclusions.


The conclusion is that you used a word reflecting your own judgment (shame) so your emotions are clear. As for me, I think political heckling is NEVER warranted because it is rude and never changes minds. Let us all just start heckling for every cause--soon we will just all be shouting at the same time.


Sensitive to “rude” political heckling but cool with genocide, as long as Jews are doing the immoral killing. Cannot accept the fact that the fate of America isn't (and never will be) tied to the fate of Israel, or that America’s decision to blindly, unconditionally support Israel is discretionary and subject to reevaluation.


No. And the point of my post is that yelling and screaming isn't going to convince me you are right. I just think protestors and disruptors and you all who say the same stuff day day after day on the internet about the issue think you are effective and clever but you are not. Think about it, are children's temper tantrums influential.


All of that is just how you feel, a Jewish immigrant to the U.S. from the former Soviet bloc who pretends that your daily investment in defending genocide here has nothing to do with personal interests. But you write here, day after day yourself, as if your biased opinions will rule the day.

Do you realize that your opinions are yours alone? And that the opinions of those who oppose yours are shared by effectively the entire world beyond Israel and the U.S. (due to our corrupt relationship with Israel, which will hopefully change over time)?

Have you ever read a world history book? Do you understand that where things stand today is no guarantee of where they’ll stand in one year, five years, 10 years, 25 years, 50 years, etc.? You don’t seem to get that.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you all think there will be incidents at the Olympics? I am concerned about safety for the Israeli and U.S. contingents.


U.S contingent should be fine. Israeli contingent, I don’t know… they will be safe I guess but they will be booed and shamed…. going by what happened at Eurovision.


Hopefully the Olympics does the right thing and immediately disqualifies any athlete who does not 100% support Israel.


Most people actually don't think about Israel. We are not actively seeking its destruction. It is in the same category as France, Thailand, Kenya, whatever...a country that exists and that is fine with me.


+1

The shortest post in nearly 3,000 pages that manages to blow the doors off the “everything is anti-semitism” logic. This is how nearly all people opposed to Israel’s genocide of Palestinians feel about Israel’s “right” to exist.
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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think there will be incidents at the Olympics? I am concerned about safety for the Israeli and U.S. contingents.


U.S contingent should be fine. Israeli contingent, I don’t know… they will be safe I guess but they will be booed and shamed…. going by what happened at Eurovision.


Shame is a word of judgment. So I guess you are happy at the possibility of them being heckled.




My emotions don’t matter, I simply responded based on the facts that unfolded at Eurovision. You can make your own conclusions.


The conclusion is that you used a word reflecting your own judgment (shame) so your emotions are clear. As for me, I think political heckling is NEVER warranted because it is rude and never changes minds. Let us all just start heckling for every cause--soon we will just all be shouting at the same time.


Sensitive to “rude” political heckling but cool with genocide, as long as Jews are doing the immoral killing. Cannot accept the fact that the fate of America isn't (and never will be) tied to the fate of Israel, or that America’s decision to blindly, unconditionally support Israel is discretionary and subject to reevaluation.


No. And the point of my post is that yelling and screaming isn't going to convince me you are right. I just think protestors and disruptors and you all who say the same stuff day day after day on the internet about the issue think you are effective and clever but you are not. Think about it, are children's temper tantrums influential.


All of that is just how you feel, a Jewish immigrant to the U.S. from the former Soviet bloc who pretends that your daily investment in defending genocide here has nothing to do with personal interests. But you write here, day after day yourself, as if your biased opinions will rule the day.

Do you realize that your opinions are yours alone? And that the opinions of those who oppose yours are shared by effectively the entire world beyond Israel and the U.S. (due to our corrupt relationship with Israel, which will hopefully change over time)?

Have you ever read a world history book? Do you understand that where things stand today is no guarantee of where they’ll stand in one year, five years, 10 years, 25 years, 50 years, etc.? You don’t seem to get that.


I am not Jewish. You think I am because you think all non Jews secretly or overtly hate Jews. So, my opinion is not limited to Jews. You think one day the world is going to rise up and finally take care of the Jews because it can't tolerate them anymore. This is why the pro-Palestinians overestimate their support--they really think they are battling Satan and that the world agrees Jews are Satan.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Appropriate consequences.



Good. I'm not sure who they think they're rallying to their cause by blocking traffic. Absolutely asinine tactics (which doesn't even get into the absurdity of their message).


For 7 months, Israeli people have been blocking roads and traffic so that aid to Gaza doesn’t pass through, I am sure you had a similar reaction to their asinine tactics.


And Hamas keeps bombing the pier that the US is trying to build to bring in humanitarian supplies. No one talks about that though. Violence is okay when Hamas is doing it, we are to understand.
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