SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

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Anonymous wrote:Just finished watching the finale.

It really feels like they wrapped things up for good.

The show was renewed. But maybe they weren’t certain about that when filming the finale. It is hard to see where they can go in season 3. Everyone can’t be happily coupled/pining for out-of-town loves and professionally killing it.

Also what stupid writing—Wyatt will be off to college in three years.

Anyone else disgusted by the incessant wealth and privilege displayed in this show? It was so much more fun when they were scrappy and striving.

How are they going to go on from here? They tidied everyone up.

Plus any minute now these women are going to really age. They can't keep them in "early 40s to mid 50's" land forever.

Guess what…all of us are aging along with actors. Are you so self-hating you don’t want to watch a show with issues you’ve been going through?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My critique:

1. The cat's name is Shoe?? Um.
2. It's so bizarre to consider the trajectory of Carrie's character from the original to now - a scrappy writer to a rich shopaholic with too much time on her hands living in an overpriced dollhouse.
3. I'm glad Nya met a nice dude. I hope she's not in the series next season. Zzzz.
4. Does anyone else think LTW's husband harbors a secret? There's something slimy and obsequious about him.
5. The last supper gathering was a depressing assortment. Carrie lived in that apartment for decades and THAT's who she pulled together? Did the woman have no friends? WEHT Skipper? Susan Sharon? The crazy suburban photographer lady?
6. Kim C. was phoning it in - literally. She wasn't even acting like Samantha!
7. The actor who played Brady is bizarrely cast.
8. Che is suddenly likable. Who knew?
9. I want Charlotte to bump into Trey MacDougal! Harry has a heart attack and is rushed to the hospital, only to be greeted by - TREY! Drama ensues.

YES to 9, wxcept it should not be a heart attack but like a panic attack about taking on so much household responsibilty and trey is the cardiologist on call who is like…idk what would trey be like now??

Trey would be gay and living his best life.

Or he could be happily married to Charlotte’s doppelgänger with four kids—one of whom turns up as Lilly’s love interest.

I hope Miranda moves back in with Steve.

I hope Carrie meets someone new. Too bad it didn’t work out with Mariska’s husband. He’s hot. Why not bring Mathew Broderick on? They could have a love/hate friendship that evolves. He could give her a hard time for her lavish lifestyle and abandoning her roots. A sort of When Harry Met Sally looooong storyline. Or bring back an evolved Berger. He could play his Loudermilk character. Maybe he’s gained notoriety for a book?

I hope Che and the rest disappear and only pop in once in a blue moon. Seema is the worst. Nya is boring. LTW is the least dull but nothing special. The show would be a million times better focused on the original three.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much money was Big worth anyway?

Not enough for Carrie to buy and maintain that enormous flat imo.

Has anyone discovered the value/cost of Carrie’s new digs?

[Anonymous]

Carrie tries living on the farm for a while and hates it. But she keeps running into a handsome man at the local bookstore/cafe/whatever. Turns out he is a NYC-based writer with a vacation home in VA…or something.

That’s the tension we need next season.

Or maybe she wakes up and realizes it was all a dream? Big is in the kitchen making breakfast and everything is back to normal? Miranda is straight. Boom! Reset.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My critique:

1. The cat's name is Shoe?? Um.
2. It's so bizarre to consider the trajectory of Carrie's character from the original to now - a scrappy writer to a rich shopaholic with too much time on her hands living in an overpriced dollhouse.
3. I'm glad Nya met a nice dude. I hope she's not in the series next season. Zzzz.
4. Does anyone else think LTW's husband harbors a secret? There's something slimy and obsequious about him.
5. The last supper gathering was a depressing assortment. Carrie lived in that apartment for decades and THAT's who she pulled together? Did the woman have no friends? WEHT Skipper? Susan Sharon? The crazy suburban photographer lady?
6. Kim C. was phoning it in - literally. She wasn't even acting like Samantha!
7. The actor who played Brady is bizarrely cast.
8. Che is suddenly likable. Who knew?
9. I want Charlotte to bump into Trey MacDougal! Harry has a heart attack and is rushed to the hospital, only to be greeted by - TREY! Drama ensues.

YES to 9, wxcept it should not be a heart attack but like a panic attack about taking on so much household responsibilty and trey is the cardiologist on call who is like…idk what would trey be like now??

Trey would be gay and living his best life.

Or he could be happily married to Charlotte’s doppelgänger with four kids—one of whom turns up as Lilly’s love interest.

I hope Miranda moves back in with Steve.

I hope Carrie meets someone new. Too bad it didn’t work out with Mariska’s husband. He’s hot. Why not bring Mathew Broderick on? They could have a love/hate friendship that evolves. He could give her a hard time for her lavish lifestyle and abandoning her roots. A sort of When Harry Met Sally looooong storyline. Or bring back an evolved Berger. He could play his Loudermilk character. Maybe he’s gained notoriety for a book?

I hope Che and the rest disappear and only pop in once in a blue moon. Seema is the worst. Nya is boring. LTW is the least dull but nothing special. The show would be a million times better focused on the original three.

Agree! Focus on the original 3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My critique:

1. The cat's name is Shoe?? Um.
2. It's so bizarre to consider the trajectory of Carrie's character from the original to now - a scrappy writer to a rich shopaholic with too much time on her hands living in an overpriced dollhouse.
3. I'm glad Nya met a nice dude. I hope she's not in the series next season. Zzzz.
4. Does anyone else think LTW's husband harbors a secret? There's something slimy and obsequious about him.
5. The last supper gathering was a depressing assortment. Carrie lived in that apartment for decades and THAT's who she pulled together? Did the woman have no friends? WEHT Skipper? Susan Sharon? The crazy suburban photographer lady?
6. Kim C. was phoning it in - literally. She wasn't even acting like Samantha!
7. The actor who played Brady is bizarrely cast.
8. Che is suddenly likable. Who knew?
9. I want Charlotte to bump into Trey MacDougal! Harry has a heart attack and is rushed to the hospital, only to be greeted by - TREY! Drama ensues.

YES to 9, wxcept it should not be a heart attack but like a panic attack about taking on so much household responsibilty and trey is the cardiologist on call who is like…idk what would trey be like now??

Trey would be gay and living his best life.

Or he could be happily married to Charlotte’s doppelgänger with four kids—one of whom turns up as Lilly’s love interest.

I hope Miranda moves back in with Steve.

I hope Carrie meets someone new. Too bad it didn’t work out with Mariska’s husband. He’s hot. Why not bring Mathew Broderick on? They could have a love/hate friendship that evolves. He could give her a hard time for her lavish lifestyle and abandoning her roots. A sort of When Harry Met Sally looooong storyline. Or bring back an evolved Berger. He could play his Loudermilk character. Maybe he’s gained notoriety for a book?

I hope Che and the rest disappear and only pop in once in a blue moon. Seema is the worst. Nya is boring. LTW is the least dull but nothing special. The show would be a million times better focused on the original three.

Agree! Focus on the original 3.

Then the show would have only white people. That is considered racist in our current society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much money was Big worth anyway?

Not enough for Carrie to buy and maintain that enormous flat imo.

Has anyone discovered the value/cost of Carrie’s new digs?

A quick Zillow search led me to a $20 million estimate.

[Anonymous]

I am hoping for a major time jump to start next season -- at least a year. We find Carrie living in her giant apartment with her cat and struggling with what it means to be "waiting" for Aiden. Does she date? Or is she just a cat lady spinster with too much money and time on her hands? I can see her initially leaning into the romantic/poetic idea of waiting for a lover (I foresee voiceovers about classic literature like Austen and the Brontes where protracted courtships are common) but then going kind of nuts. It would be a kind of internal tension.

Meanwhile I think Miranda and Charlotte will be hitting new career peaks and that would be interesting to watch. Those stories are actually so common in our culture -- women raise kids and essentially start new careers in their late 40s or even 50s, and because of their age and executive functioning skills and maturity, really take off. Like Nancy Pelosi or Vera Wang. Having both of them in that place would be interesting, too, because they are sort of foils for each other -- Charlotte happily married and eternally optimistic and settled, Miranda divorced and cynical and always searching for something. I like it when their stories run parallel because it winds up providing really interesting dynamics.

I think Seema's director returns, they continue to fall in love, and the central set piece of the season is their wedding. So we'd have the bachelorette, the rehearsal dinner, and the wedding itself, plus dress fittings and other things, all to give the characters reasons to come together in fabulous places wearing fabulous clothes. Plus the story of a woman in her 50s finally finding real love and what that looks like and means for her. I think it could be incredibly sweet.

Sadly this leaves Nya and LTW once again in these weird C-plots where they have too little to do. Especially Nya. I think the show made a mistake in adding so many new characters for the sake of diversity, because inevitably what happens is that the focus is on the original three and there is not enough bandwidth to give all these new characters juicy storylines, so you wind up with multiple characters who are POC or LGBTQA+ who don't have anything to do, and it's honestly a worse look than just being a less diverse show, in my opinion.

I think it works a little better with Che and Anthony because Che's storyline is more connected to Miranda's (and Miranda now contributes to the show's diversity. And Anthony is an original cast member and has close friendships with both Carrie and Charlotte in ways that make his presence feel organic. Plus he's always been a secondary character so it doesn't feel dismissive to keep him in that role. If anything he's gotten WAY more screen time than he used to. I expect we'll continue to see him with his Italian guy and storylines about the age and generation gap. I hope Che's focus is mostly on their career, which I think is way more interesting than their love life. Every relationship plot line with Che is like "let's talk about being gender fluid and/or pansexual" and it's tedious as hell. Diversity on shows work best when identities are just an accepted part of the characters background and not the focus of their storyline. No one wants to watch a character when ever seen is like "let's discuss how me being gay/trans/black/an immigrant/disabled is relevant to what's going on." Once in a while, yes. Every scene? NO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much money was Big worth anyway?

Not enough for Carrie to buy and maintain that enormous flat imo.

Has anyone discovered the value/cost of Carrie’s new digs?

A quick Zillow search led me to a $20 million estimate.

and the monthly fees? exorbitant, I'm sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am hoping for a major time jump to start next season -- at least a year. We find Carrie living in her giant apartment with her cat and struggling with what it means to be "waiting" for Aiden. Does she date? Or is she just a cat lady spinster with too much money and time on her hands? I can see her initially leaning into the romantic/poetic idea of waiting for a lover (I foresee voiceovers about classic literature like Austen and the Brontes where protracted courtships are common) but then going kind of nuts. It would be a kind of internal tension.

Meanwhile I think Miranda and Charlotte will be hitting new career peaks and that would be interesting to watch. Those stories are actually so common in our culture -- women raise kids and essentially start new careers in their late 40s or even 50s, and because of their age and executive functioning skills and maturity, really take off. Like Nancy Pelosi or Vera Wang. Having both of them in that place would be interesting, too, because they are sort of foils for each other -- Charlotte happily married and eternally optimistic and settled, Miranda divorced and cynical and always searching for something. I like it when their stories run parallel because it winds up providing really interesting dynamics.

I think Seema's director returns, they continue to fall in love, and the central set piece of the season is their wedding. So we'd have the bachelorette, the rehearsal dinner, and the wedding itself, plus dress fittings and other things, all to give the characters reasons to come together in fabulous places wearing fabulous clothes. Plus the story of a woman in her 50s finally finding real love and what that looks like and means for her. I think it could be incredibly sweet.

Sadly this leaves Nya and LTW once again in these weird C-plots where they have too little to do. Especially Nya. I think the show made a mistake in adding so many new characters for the sake of diversity, because inevitably what happens is that the focus is on the original three and there is not enough bandwidth to give all these new characters juicy storylines, so you wind up with multiple characters who are POC or LGBTQA+ who don't have anything to do, and it's honestly a worse look than just being a less diverse show, in my opinion.

I think it works a little better with Che and Anthony because Che's storyline is more connected to Miranda's (and Miranda now contributes to the show's diversity. And Anthony is an original cast member and has close friendships with both Carrie and Charlotte in ways that make his presence feel organic. Plus he's always been a secondary character so it doesn't feel dismissive to keep him in that role. If anything he's gotten WAY more screen time than he used to. I expect we'll continue to see him with his Italian guy and storylines about the age and generation gap. I hope Che's focus is mostly on their career, which I think is way more interesting than their love life. Every relationship plot line with Che is like "let's talk about being gender fluid and/or pansexual" and it's tedious as hell. Diversity on shows work best when identities are just an accepted part of the characters background and not the focus of their storyline. No one wants to watch a character when ever seen is like "let's discuss how me being gay/trans/black/an immigrant/disabled is relevant to what's going on." Once in a while, yes. Every scene? NO.

Excellent. Agree completely with the c plots and che’s character.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My critique:

1. The cat's name is Shoe?? Um.
2. It's so bizarre to consider the trajectory of Carrie's character from the original to now - a scrappy writer to a rich shopaholic with too much time on her hands living in an overpriced dollhouse.
3. I'm glad Nya met a nice dude. I hope she's not in the series next season. Zzzz.
4. Does anyone else think LTW's husband harbors a secret? There's something slimy and obsequious about him.
5. The last supper gathering was a depressing assortment. Carrie lived in that apartment for decades and THAT's who she pulled together? Did the woman have no friends? WEHT Skipper? Susan Sharon? The crazy suburban photographer lady?
6. Kim C. was phoning it in - literally. She wasn't even acting like Samantha!
7. The actor who played Brady is bizarrely cast.
8. Che is suddenly likable. Who knew?
9. I want Charlotte to bump into Trey MacDougal! Harry has a heart attack and is rushed to the hospital, only to be greeted by - TREY! Drama ensues.

YES to 9, wxcept it should not be a heart attack but like a panic attack about taking on so much household responsibilty and trey is the cardiologist on call who is like…idk what would trey be like now??

Trey would be gay and living his best life.

Or he could be happily married to Charlotte’s doppelgänger with four kids—one of whom turns up as Lilly’s love interest.

I hope Miranda moves back in with Steve.

I hope Carrie meets someone new. Too bad it didn’t work out with Mariska’s husband. He’s hot. Why not bring Mathew Broderick on? They could have a love/hate friendship that evolves. He could give her a hard time for her lavish lifestyle and abandoning her roots. A sort of When Harry Met Sally looooong storyline. Or bring back an evolved Berger. He could play his Loudermilk character. Maybe he’s gained notoriety for a book?

I hope Che and the rest disappear and only pop in once in a blue moon. Seema is the worst. Nya is boring. LTW is the least dull but nothing special. The show would be a million times better focused on the original three.

Agree! Focus on the original 3.

Then the show would have only white people. That is considered racist in our current society.

Diversity like SATC is doing now with Che’s character feels like Sesame Street. So condescending. Schitts Creek did it right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ll play the devils advocate. It doesn’t seem like Che’s standup was rooted in reality. More like she took the concept of dating a married woman and riffed off of it.

Also, Miranda probably shouldn’t have just “dropped in” on her ex like that after ghosting her. Che would have told her not to come, or at the very least prepped her for it.

Che’s true crime is not being funny. Same reason I couldn’t watch The marvelous Mrs. Maisel. Why can’t anyone write funny standup for tv?

The best/worst line of the whole season was in the finale, when Che said that they and Miranda would have to "agree to disagree" about whether the cruel jokes were funny. Nope, nope, Che, you have literally NEVER been funny.

[Anonymous]

Could someone explain to me what the hot, young, Italian poet sees in Anthony?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My critique:

1. The cat's name is Shoe?? Um.
2. It's so bizarre to consider the trajectory of Carrie's character from the original to now - a scrappy writer to a rich shopaholic with too much time on her hands living in an overpriced dollhouse.
3. I'm glad Nya met a nice dude. I hope she's not in the series next season. Zzzz.
4. Does anyone else think LTW's husband harbors a secret? There's something slimy and obsequious about him.
5. The last supper gathering was a depressing assortment. Carrie lived in that apartment for decades and THAT's who she pulled together? Did the woman have no friends? WEHT Skipper? Susan Sharon? The crazy suburban photographer lady?
6. Kim C. was phoning it in - literally. She wasn't even acting like Samantha!
7. The actor who played Brady is bizarrely cast.
8. Che is suddenly likable. Who knew?
9. I want Charlotte to bump into Trey MacDougal! Harry has a heart attack and is rushed to the hospital, only to be greeted by - TREY! Drama ensues.

YES to 9, wxcept it should not be a heart attack but like a panic attack about taking on so much household responsibilty and trey is the cardiologist on call who is like…idk what would trey be like now??

With 4, hopefully--we need something interesting! 5--thank you!!!! The woman has to have at least a FEW friends from more than five minutes ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am hoping for a major time jump to start next season -- at least a year. We find Carrie living in her giant apartment with her cat and struggling with what it means to be "waiting" for Aiden. Does she date? Or is she just a cat lady spinster with too much money and time on her hands? I can see her initially leaning into the romantic/poetic idea of waiting for a lover (I foresee voiceovers about classic literature like Austen and the Brontes where protracted courtships are common) but then going kind of nuts. It would be a kind of internal tension.

Meanwhile I think Miranda and Charlotte will be hitting new career peaks and that would be interesting to watch. Those stories are actually so common in our culture -- women raise kids and essentially start new careers in their late 40s or even 50s, and because of their age and executive functioning skills and maturity, really take off. Like Nancy Pelosi or Vera Wang. Having both of them in that place would be interesting, too, because they are sort of foils for each other -- Charlotte happily married and eternally optimistic and settled, Miranda divorced and cynical and always searching for something. I like it when their stories run parallel because it winds up providing really interesting dynamics.

I think Seema's director returns, they continue to fall in love, and the central set piece of the season is their wedding. So we'd have the bachelorette, the rehearsal dinner, and the wedding itself, plus dress fittings and other things, all to give the characters reasons to come together in fabulous places wearing fabulous clothes. Plus the story of a woman in her 50s finally finding real love and what that looks like and means for her. I think it could be incredibly sweet.

Sadly this leaves Nya and LTW once again in these weird C-plots where they have too little to do. Especially Nya. I think the show made a mistake in adding so many new characters for the sake of diversity, because inevitably what happens is that the focus is on the original three and there is not enough bandwidth to give all these new characters juicy storylines, so you wind up with multiple characters who are POC or LGBTQA+ who don't have anything to do, and it's honestly a worse look than just being a less diverse show, in my opinion.

I think it works a little better with Che and Anthony because Che's storyline is more connected to Miranda's (and Miranda now contributes to the show's diversity. And Anthony is an original cast member and has close friendships with both Carrie and Charlotte in ways that make his presence feel organic. Plus he's always been a secondary character so it doesn't feel dismissive to keep him in that role. If anything he's gotten WAY more screen time than he used to. I expect we'll continue to see him with his Italian guy and storylines about the age and generation gap. I hope Che's focus is mostly on their career, which I think is way more interesting than their love life. Every relationship plot line with Che is like "let's talk about being gender fluid and/or pansexual" and it's tedious as hell. Diversity on shows work best when identities are just an accepted part of the characters background and not the focus of their storyline. No one wants to watch a character when ever seen is like "let's discuss how me being gay/trans/black/an immigrant/disabled is relevant to what's going on." Once in a while, yes. Every scene? NO.

I was reading a Reddit thread on this show and someone referred to the new leads as emotional support woc for the original 3. So gross but also correct.

I hate that they threw in all of these new characters clearly for diversity and then didn’t develop them in ways that made them or their stories engaging. Like who are these women? who are their other friends? They feel like rich, shiny, well dressed shells of people to me. I need more but there is no time with the attempt to focus on so many people.

SATC, despite its faults, was pretty groundbreaking for its time and actually tackled social issues to some extent. It was downright controversial at times. I miss the grit.