What happened to this California family?

[Anonymous]

They were on a deserted 8 mile trail/mountain with a dog and baby in 110 degree heat. It's obviously heat related. Stop with your fanfiction nonsense. Y'all sound like idiots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They were on a deserted 8 mile trail/mountain with a dog and baby in 110 degree heat. It's obviously heat related. Stop with your fanfiction nonsense. Y'all sound like idiots.

Well it's pretty obvious, yes. The issue is that the authorities that discovered them called it "very mysterious" so people are just running with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They were on a deserted 8 mile trail/mountain with a dog and baby in 110 degree heat. It's obviously heat related. Stop with your fanfiction nonsense. Y'all sound like idiots.

The counterargument is that people were out in the same heat and didn't randomly die. Of course, they ignore the other factors, like the trail or baby. "I once walked a mile in 100F over flat ground and I didn't die."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In all likelihood, we never will know their thought process.

CA may need to go to a practice of announcing trail closures in extreme temps. That will not prevent all tragedies, but should reduce them.

Pediatricians, outdoor gear stores and vets may be vectors for increasing awareness of the dangers of heat.

Turning around on hikes from time to time to not develop the habit of "pressing through" and consulting local hiking resources, such as the Mariposa Trails FB group could also help.

Outdoor activities are not recommended when there are extreme heat warnings or air quality warnings, and the interplay between the 2 was a risk to all 4, but esp the young baby.

Humans are not the best at assessing risk. I think they wanted to go hiking, they wanted to spend time together, this was near the new house, and nothing much else factored in. Maybe the backpack was new and they thought it would be cooler for JG and the baby so they could do what LE called an "aggressive hike."

Often in marriages one is more a risk taker and one is cautious. In this case they both were into adventure travel and prior close calls did not change their practices. Some of us had parents like this. It usually works out.

https://www.backpacker.com/survival/a-dozen-ways-to-die/

Advice: "Doubt yourself A recurring theme in wilderness fatalities is overconfidence or simple neglect of basic safety procedures by veteran hikers."

This was a great article. Thanks for posting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They were on a deserted 8 mile trail/mountain with a dog and baby in 110 degree heat. It's obviously heat related. Stop with your fanfiction nonsense. Y'all sound like idiots.

The counterargument is that people were out in the same heat and didn't randomly die. Of course, they ignore the other factors, like the trail or baby. "I once walked a mile in 100F over flat ground and I didn't die."

This.

The authorities are saying they're stumped. They've closed the trail as a precaution. People will be speculating until the official COD comes out. Probably heat stroke, but if they're interviewing a lot of people (as has been mentioned?), it seems to be more than heat stroke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were on a deserted 8 mile trail/mountain with a dog and baby in 110 degree heat. It's obviously heat related. Stop with your fanfiction nonsense. Y'all sound like idiots.

The counterargument is that people were out in the same heat and didn't randomly die. Of course, they ignore the other factors, like the trail or baby. "I once walked a mile in 100F over flat ground and I didn't die."

This.

The authorities are saying they're stumped. They've closed the trail as a precaution. People will be speculating until the official COD comes out. Probably heat stroke, but if they're interviewing a lot of people (as has been mentioned?), it seems to be more than heat stroke.

What would have happened if the police declared the CoD as heatstroke the day after finding the bodies without any interviews?

[Anonymous]

For some reason this case reminds me of the Tylenol tampering with how the cod is unknown and the interviewing of dozens of people. Could they have ingested a tampered with product unknowingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were on a deserted 8 mile trail/mountain with a dog and baby in 110 degree heat. It's obviously heat related. Stop with your fanfiction nonsense. Y'all sound like idiots.

The counterargument is that people were out in the same heat and didn't randomly die. Of course, they ignore the other factors, like the trail or baby. "I once walked a mile in 100F over flat ground and I didn't die."

This.

The authorities are saying they're stumped. They've closed the trail as a precaution. People will be speculating until the official COD comes out. Probably heat stroke, but if they're interviewing a lot of people (as has been mentioned?), it seems to be more than heat stroke.

The person who said that lots of people were being interviewed was stated to be a troll and their posts were removed by the moderator.

This is how misinformation spreads, people. Obviously people who actually know these people would like to know what happened to them, but I have seen zero confirmation that anyone is being interviewed in Mariposa in any great numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For some reason this case reminds me of the Tylenol tampering with how the cod is unknown and the interviewing of dozens of people. Could they have ingested a tampered with product unknowingly.

Did anyone else die mysteriously in the Mariposa area around that time?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like toxic algae and heat stroke are still contenders.

And mass-spontaneous natural causes.

What’s that?

Boulders

Ugh this was not funny the first time and it’s not funny the 17th time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They were on a deserted 8 mile trail/mountain with a dog and baby in 110 degree heat. It's obviously heat related. Stop with your fanfiction nonsense. Y'all sound like idiots.

It is not obvious, farm and construction workers are out all day in the same conditions and rarely die. Not only that, it is extremely strange for two healthy people to die in close proximity (time and location) to each other from heat conditions.

https://twitter.com/UFWupdates/status/1421199094610071554?s=20

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were on a deserted 8 mile trail/mountain with a dog and baby in 110 degree heat. It's obviously heat related. Stop with your fanfiction nonsense. Y'all sound like idiots.

It is not obvious, farm and construction workers are out all day in the same conditions and rarely die. Not only that, it is extremely strange for two healthy people to die in close proximity (time and location) to each other from heat conditions.

https://twitter.com/UFWupdates/status/1421199094610071554?s=20

People rarely die of heatstroke in national parks. As for construction workers, it is a known hazard, and workers still die.

https://www.safeopedia.com/summertime-roadwork-and-heat-stroke/2/6023

Never makes the news though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were on a deserted 8 mile trail/mountain with a dog and baby in 110 degree heat. It's obviously heat related. Stop with your fanfiction nonsense. Y'all sound like idiots.

It is not obvious, farm and construction workers are out all day in the same conditions and rarely die. Not only that, it is extremely strange for two healthy people to die in close proximity (time and location) to each other from heat conditions.

https://twitter.com/UFWupdates/status/1421199094610071554?s=20

People rarely die of heatstroke in national parks. As for construction workers, it is a known hazard, and workers still die.

https://www.safeopedia.com/summertime-roadwork-and-heat-stroke/2/6023

Never makes the news though.

But not all of them at the same time. If one had succumbed, the other would have gone for help. This is so obvious. It was FA/murder suicide. I guarantee this is why we are no hearing anything more. It's sad and obviously nobody wants that to be made public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were on a deserted 8 mile trail/mountain with a dog and baby in 110 degree heat. It's obviously heat related. Stop with your fanfiction nonsense. Y'all sound like idiots.

It is not obvious, farm and construction workers are out all day in the same conditions and rarely die. Not only that, it is extremely strange for two healthy people to die in close proximity (time and location) to each other from heat conditions.

https://twitter.com/UFWupdates/status/1421199094610071554?s=20

People rarely die of heatstroke in national parks. As for construction workers, it is a known hazard, and workers still die.

https://www.safeopedia.com/summertime-roadwork-and-heat-stroke/2/6023

Never makes the news though.

But not all of them at the same time. If one had succumbed, the other would have gone for help. This is so obvious. It was FA/murder suicide. I guarantee this is why we are no hearing anything more. It's sad and obviously nobody wants that to be made public.

The latest LE update said that they ruled out suicide. Now, I don’t know how they can entirely rule it out, but do you really think they’re trying to cover something up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were on a deserted 8 mile trail/mountain with a dog and baby in 110 degree heat. It's obviously heat related. Stop with your fanfiction nonsense. Y'all sound like idiots.

It is not obvious, farm and construction workers are out all day in the same conditions and rarely die. Not only that, it is extremely strange for two healthy people to die in close proximity (time and location) to each other from heat conditions.

https://twitter.com/UFWupdates/status/1421199094610071554?s=20

People rarely die of heatstroke in national parks. As for construction workers, it is a known hazard, and workers still die.

https://www.safeopedia.com/summertime-roadwork-and-heat-stroke/2/6023

Never makes the news though.

But not all of them at the same time. If one had succumbed, the other would have gone for help. This is so obvious. It was FA/murder suicide. I guarantee this is why we are no hearing anything more. It's sad and obviously nobody wants that to be made public.

And what do you think the method was?