“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:YLS may want to start rethinking their admissions policy. The thread below is insane. Hard to believe these people are future lawyers.

Free speech.

If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.

Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.

I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.

I will not be willingly enslaved.

Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.

Not if there's a nationwide ban.

Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.

Yeah because precedent and norms really matter to the GOP. /s

Moscow Mitch already said that it's part of the R agenda, to pass a nationwide ban on abortion if the Rs retake Congress.

[Anonymous]

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The point is, both the US government and the US Constitution recognize "life" at birth.

The Constitution recognizes citizenship at birth. Not what you said.

Keep pretending a baby isn’t alive before he or she is born. You’re doing a fine job making pro-choice people look bad.

You have it backwards. You inability to let people live their lives as they see fit, imposing YOUR religious beliefs on to others is unconstitutiuonal. You need to own your tyranny for what it is.

I’m pro-choice. Claiming babies aren’t alive before they’re born is insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The point is, both the US government and the US Constitution recognize "life" at birth.

The Constitution recognizes citizenship at birth. Not what you said.

Keep pretending a baby isn’t alive before he or she is born. You’re doing a fine job making pro-choice people look bad.

You have it backwards. You inability to let people live their lives as they see fit, imposing YOUR religious beliefs on to others is unconstitutiuonal. You need to own your tyranny for what it is.

I’m pro-choice. Claiming babies aren’t alive before they’re born is insane.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The point is, both the US government and the US Constitution recognize "life" at birth.

The Constitution recognizes citizenship at birth. Not what you said.

Keep pretending a baby isn’t alive before he or she is born. You’re doing a fine job making pro-choice people look bad.

You have it backwards. You inability to let people live their lives as they see fit, imposing YOUR religious beliefs on to others is unconstitutiuonal. You need to own your tyranny for what it is.

I’m pro-choice. Claiming babies aren’t alive before they’re born is insane.

+1 They're lying to make it all sound more normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The point is, both the US government and the US Constitution recognize "life" at birth.

The Constitution recognizes citizenship at birth. Not what you said.

Keep pretending a baby isn’t alive before he or she is born. You’re doing a fine job making pro-choice people look bad.

You have it backwards. You inability to let people live their lives as they see fit, imposing YOUR religious beliefs on to others is unconstitutiuonal. You need to own your tyranny for what it is.

I’m pro-choice. Claiming babies aren’t alive before they’re born is insane.

The point is, the US Constitution wasn't silent on what constitutes "citizenship"

More important, if pro-choice people admit (as we do) that a late term fetus is "alive" then anti-Choice people should admit there is a pre-viability point at which a fetus is not alive, and that termination/choice should be totally fine. However, that isn't what we have now, is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The point is, both the US government and the US Constitution recognize "life" at birth.

The Constitution recognizes citizenship at birth. Not what you said.

Keep pretending a baby isn’t alive before he or she is born. You’re doing a fine job making pro-choice people look bad.

You have it backwards. You inability to let people live their lives as they see fit, imposing YOUR religious beliefs on to others is unconstitutiuonal. You need to own your tyranny for what it is.

I’m pro-choice. Claiming babies aren’t alive before they’re born is insane.

DP... The old testament and Jewish faith also hold that life begins at birth.

But, that's not so much the issue. At what point does it have personhood? At what point does it have independent viability? To try and claim it has all of those things right at the moment of conception is also insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YLS may want to start rethinking their admissions policy. The thread below is insane. Hard to believe these people are future lawyers.

Free speech.

If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.

Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.

I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.

I will not be willingly enslaved.

Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.

Not if there's a nationwide ban.

Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.

Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later

Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.

There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YLS may want to start rethinking their admissions policy. The thread below is insane. Hard to believe these people are future lawyers.

Free speech.

If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.

Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.

I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.

I will not be willingly enslaved.

Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.

Not if there's a nationwide ban.

Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.

Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later

Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.

There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.

But they are fine with the death penalty

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YLS may want to start rethinking their admissions policy. The thread below is insane. Hard to believe these people are future lawyers.

Free speech.

If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.

Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.

I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.

I will not be willingly enslaved.

Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.

Not if there's a nationwide ban.

Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.

Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later

Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.

There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.

But they are fine with the death penalty

And they don't give a damn about the kid's life once he is born. The numbers of kids going into orphanages, foster homes, abusive and dysfunctional households will skyrocket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YLS may want to start rethinking their admissions policy. The thread below is insane. Hard to believe these people are future lawyers.

Free speech.

If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.

Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.

I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.

I will not be willingly enslaved.

Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.

Not if there's a nationwide ban.

Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.

Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later

CNN has declared a national ban on abortion "all but impossible."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/09/politics/mitch-mcconnell-national-abortion-ban-impossible-what-matters/index.html

Oh yeah? Weren't they also laughing at Trump in 2015, saying he couldn't be elected?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The point is, both the US government and the US Constitution recognize "life" at birth.

The Constitution recognizes citizenship at birth. Not what you said.

Keep pretending a baby isn’t alive before he or she is born. You’re doing a fine job making pro-choice people look bad.

You have it backwards. You inability to let people live their lives as they see fit, imposing YOUR religious beliefs on to others is unconstitutiuonal. You need to own your tyranny for what it is.

I’m pro-choice. Claiming babies aren’t alive before they’re born is insane.

DP... The old testament and Jewish faith also hold that life begins at birth.

But, that's not so much the issue. At what point does it have personhood? At what point does it have independent viability? To try and claim it has all of those things right at the moment of conception is also insane.

Yet that’s what the forced birthers are doing. Legal abortion is done for in multiple states and if the GOP wins in November, across the country.

Facts don’t matter to forced birthers, their complete disregard for human life doesn’t matter. They hate women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YLS may want to start rethinking their admissions policy. The thread below is insane. Hard to believe these people are future lawyers.

Free speech.

If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.

Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.

I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.

I will not be willingly enslaved.

Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.

Not if there's a nationwide ban.

Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.

Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later

CNN has declared a national ban on abortion "all but impossible."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/09/politics/mitch-mcconnell-national-abortion-ban-impossible-what-matters/index.html

Oh yeah? Weren't they also laughing at Trump in 2015, saying he couldn't be elected?

They were, even as they were helping him get elected!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YLS may want to start rethinking their admissions policy. The thread below is insane. Hard to believe these people are future lawyers.

Free speech.

If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.

Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.

I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.

I will not be willingly enslaved.

Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.

Not if there's a nationwide ban.

Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.

Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later

CNN has declared a national ban on abortion "all but impossible."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/09/politics/mitch-mcconnell-national-abortion-ban-impossible-what-matters/index.html

Oh yeah? Weren't they also laughing at Trump in 2015, saying he couldn't be elected?

They were, even as they were helping him get elected!

Yup. They gave him endless hours of press coverage. Free ads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The point is, both the US government and the US Constitution recognize "life" at birth.

The Constitution recognizes citizenship at birth. Not what you said.

Keep pretending a baby isn’t alive before he or she is born. You’re doing a fine job making pro-choice people look bad.

You have it backwards. You inability to let people live their lives as they see fit, imposing YOUR religious beliefs on to others is unconstitutiuonal. You need to own your tyranny for what it is.

I’m pro-choice. Claiming babies aren’t alive before they’re born is insane.

The point is, the US Constitution wasn't silent on what constitutes "citizenship"

More important, if pro-choice people admit (as we do) that a late term fetus is "alive" then anti-Choice people should admit there is a pre-viability point at which a fetus is not alive, and that termination/choice should be totally fine. However, that isn't what we have now, is it?

Citizenship isn’t relevant here. Personhood is. You are also going to lose the debate arguing that a pre-viable fetus is not alive so take a different tack.

Termination/choice up to viability should be fine because it balances the right to bodily autonomy of the mother with the rights of the child. After viability, the state should be allowed to place some restrictions. Those restrictions might just be requirement of a doctor, life of the mother, imminent death of the fetus due to conditions that cannot be fixed. The reason Alito’s opinion is so weak is because it values the life of a fetus at conception over the bodily autonomy of the parent.

The Mississippi law was going to be allowed to stand. The decision is between no bodily autonomy for the woman or federally recognized bodily autonomy up to 15 weeks minimum (states have option of longer).

Which would you prefer? I’m pro choice, but I recognize that they have SCOTUS for the next five years minimum. Alito and Thomas are both in their early 70s. They’d have to both be replaced by liberal judges. This means keeping the Presidency and Senate through 2028 which means keeping the governorships in MI and PA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YLS may want to start rethinking their admissions policy. The thread below is insane. Hard to believe these people are future lawyers.

Free speech.

If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.

Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.

I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.

I will not be willingly enslaved.

Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.

Not if there's a nationwide ban.

Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.

Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later

Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.

There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.

But they are fine with the death penalty

And they don't give a damn about the kid's life once he is born. The numbers of kids going into orphanages, foster homes, abusive and dysfunctional households will skyrocket.

Those are exactly the type of vulnerable kids that pedophile priests prey on. So that work out perfectly for those priests.