student admissions and TJ lawsuit

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

Or could it be that the math classes are not as demanding or the grading is more lenient? You do know that the approach to grading has become progressively more lenient since 2011. First the scale changed, and later the policies making 50% the lowest grade for a test or assignment or ceasing to penalize students for turning in work late were adopted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Ah yes - the unfalsifiable claim. There will be no reporting because the principal has complete control over everything that happens within the school building and therefore we should take the absence of any news as evidence of a conspiracy and cover-up. Please. Enough goes out on these boards that TJ would like to keep quiet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

TJ students struggled in math during that year because they were advanced beyond their capability levels. Why? Because evidence suggested that a higher math level indicated a greater chance of success in the TJ admissions process, leading parents to engage in destructive hyper-advancement behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

WTF? Stop with the BS make up number. Black and Hispanic don't account to almost 20%. They barely account for 10% of the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

WTF? Stop with the BS make up number. Black and Hispanic don't account to almost 20%. They barely account for 10% of the school.

At present they account for about 18% of the Class of 2025 and about 6% of the entire school.

It's important to note that the Glazer administration tended to adopt a rather "sink or swim" approach to struggling students while the current administration has (even prior to the change in admissions process) been much more vocal about systems of support for those who are having difficulty adjusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

Or could it be that the math classes are not as demanding or the grading is more lenient? You do know that the approach to grading has become progressively more lenient since 2011. First the scale changed, and later the policies making 50% the lowest grade for a test or assignment or ceasing to penalize students for turning in work late were adopted.

Another essentially unfalsifiable claim that turns into soft racism. If the present student body is doing just as well as previous students, that's evidence that standards must be lowered or that grading is more lenient because of course Black and Hispanic kids can't do as well as our kids! We try harder! We care more about school! We have the market cornered on effort in academics!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

Or could it be that the math classes are not as demanding or the grading is more lenient? You do know that the approach to grading has become progressively more lenient since 2011. First the scale changed, and later the policies making 50% the lowest grade for a test or assignment or ceasing to penalize students for turning in work late were adopted.

Another essentially unfalsifiable claim that turns into soft racism. If the present student body is doing just as well as previous students, that's evidence that standards must be lowered or that grading is more lenient because of course Black and Hispanic kids can't do as well as our kids! We try harder! We care more about school! We have the market cornered on effort in academics!

Right? Because it's completely unthinkable that there might be, what, 50 Black kids in the Northern Virginia area whose families raised them to care about academics and have an aptitude for STEM.

It's especially pitiable when racists cry racism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

Or could it be that the math classes are not as demanding or the grading is more lenient? You do know that the approach to grading has become progressively more lenient since 2011. First the scale changed, and later the policies making 50% the lowest grade for a test or assignment or ceasing to penalize students for turning in work late were adopted.

Another essentially unfalsifiable claim that turns into soft racism. If the present student body is doing just as well as previous students, that's evidence that standards must be lowered or that grading is more lenient because of course Black and Hispanic kids can't do as well as our kids! We try harder! We care more about school! We have the market cornered on effort in academics!

Right? Because it's completely unthinkable that there might be, what, 50 Black kids in the Northern Virginia area whose families raised them to care about academics and have an aptitude for STEM.

It's especially pitiable when racists cry racism.

You are the one drawing false conclusions here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

Or could it be that the math classes are not as demanding or the grading is more lenient? You do know that the approach to grading has become progressively more lenient since 2011. First the scale changed, and later the policies making 50% the lowest grade for a test or assignment or ceasing to penalize students for turning in work late were adopted.

Another essentially unfalsifiable claim that turns into soft racism. If the present student body is doing just as well as previous students, that's evidence that standards must be lowered or that grading is more lenient because of course Black and Hispanic kids can't do as well as our kids! We try harder! We care more about school! We have the market cornered on effort in academics!

Right? Because it's completely unthinkable that there might be, what, 50 Black kids in the Northern Virginia area whose families raised them to care about academics and have an aptitude for STEM.

It's especially pitiable when racists cry racism.

Are you black? Simple question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

TJ students struggled in math during that year because they were advanced beyond their capability levels. Why? Because evidence suggested that a higher math level indicated a greater chance of success in the TJ admissions process, leading parents to engage in destructive hyper-advancement behavior.

I am a parent of a child in that class and I went to all the meetings that were held about that situation and I still have the printout of the report. I also talked to a number of the TJ math teachers at that time. The PP above is correct that the problem was that kids were being prepped to appear to be at higher math levels than they actually understood.

Many of the kids in the remedial math classes that year were kids who had been in advanced math prep programs for years but had never really understood the basic foundational skills they needed for that advanced math. They knew how to work the problems, but they didn’t really understand the why and how of what they were doing.

And these problems didn’t just pop up in 2011. The TJ math teachers had been noticing these problems for a number of years and had decided to take action by requiring remedial work right away for freshmen they noticed were having problems. The idea was to identify kids and give them extra support so that they could be successful at TJ. Most of the kids who needed this support were kids who had taken prep classes to help them through the application process.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

TJ students struggled in math during that year because they were advanced beyond their capability levels. Why? Because evidence suggested that a higher math level indicated a greater chance of success in the TJ admissions process, leading parents to engage in destructive hyper-advancement behavior.

I am a parent of a child in that class and I went to all the meetings that were held about that situation and I still have the printout of the report. I also talked to a number of the TJ math teachers at that time. The PP above is correct that the problem was that kids were being prepped to appear to be at higher math levels than they actually understood.

Many of the kids in the remedial math classes that year were kids who had been in advanced math prep programs for years but had never really understood the basic foundational skills they needed for that advanced math. They knew how to work the problems, but they didn’t really understand the why and how of what they were doing.

And these problems didn’t just pop up in 2011. The TJ math teachers had been noticing these problems for a number of years and had decided to take action by requiring remedial work right away for freshmen they noticed were having problems. The idea was to identify kids and give them extra support so that they could be successful at TJ. Most of the kids who needed this support were kids who had taken prep classes to help them through the application process.

Yes, yes. I understand what you are saying..wink wink...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

TJ students struggled in math during that year because they were advanced beyond their capability levels. Why? Because evidence suggested that a higher math level indicated a greater chance of success in the TJ admissions process, leading parents to engage in destructive hyper-advancement behavior.

I am a parent of a child in that class and I went to all the meetings that were held about that situation and I still have the printout of the report. I also talked to a number of the TJ math teachers at that time. The PP above is correct that the problem was that kids were being prepped to appear to be at higher math levels than they actually understood.

Many of the kids in the remedial math classes that year were kids who had been in advanced math prep programs for years but had never really understood the basic foundational skills they needed for that advanced math. They knew how to work the problems, but they didn’t really understand the why and how of what they were doing.

And these problems didn’t just pop up in 2011. The TJ math teachers had been noticing these problems for a number of years and had decided to take action by requiring remedial work right away for freshmen they noticed were having problems. The idea was to identify kids and give them extra support so that they could be successful at TJ. Most of the kids who needed this support were kids who had taken prep classes to help them through the application process.

Maybe the kids needing remedial math looked like the kids in this photograph. Heard they did a lot of prep.

https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2019/july/us-first-in-math-competiton.html

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they do the top 1.5% at the school you are attending? SOL scores for kids are attached to the school that they are attending. If you choose to move schools, you choose that as your school. That counts for everything.

You don’t have to choose to attend an AAP Center school. Parents knew this year that school choice mattered. Parents know for next year that the school matters. If you feel that the academic rigor is better at the AAP Center, then send your kid there. Appreciate that they are getting what you deem to be a better education. They probably have access to better extra curricular activities as well. If TJ is that important to you and you think you stand a better chance of getting into TJ coming from your base school, stay at the base school.

You have a choice, make your choice and accept that there are consequences for that choice.

I mean, good grief... nearly half of the spaces in each incoming TJ class are unallocated, meaning that those spaces are up for grabs to the highest-evaluated applicants once you get away from the top 1.5% at each school. So you're not even competing with the best of the best for those unallocated seats. And that's even assuming that all of the allocated seats get used, which they don't.

The more I read parents on this thread, the more convinced I am that their kids are really not THAT much different from the kids that they're trying to keep out of TJ by crying "racism".

TJ's been in session for a semester now with the Class of 2025. Where are the reports of huge numbers of students unable to cope? Where are the reports of the mass exodus of students who don't belong there? Where are the teachers talking about how they have to lower their standards to account for the lack of an exam in the admissions process? Where are the teachers talking about behavior issues that would have been eliminated with teacher recommendations?

Nothingburger.

Person in charge of TJ (Principal) will not allow anything negative to get out regarding class of 2025. She was a rabid supporter of the changes and hostile to Asian students.

Let’s report her divisiveness and hatred to the governor office. [e-mail]
She needs to go.

Back in 2011-2012, there were hundreds of news articles about how some TJ students were struggling in math. The media was all over it covering this for months including the WaPo and guess what the difference is between 2011 (class of 2015) and class of 2025? Could it be that TJ was mostly Asians and white (about 95%) and now black and Hispanic students make up almost 20%?

TJ students struggled in math during that year because they were advanced beyond their capability levels. Why? Because evidence suggested that a higher math level indicated a greater chance of success in the TJ admissions process, leading parents to engage in destructive hyper-advancement behavior.

I am a parent of a child in that class and I went to all the meetings that were held about that situation and I still have the printout of the report. I also talked to a number of the TJ math teachers at that time. The PP above is correct that the problem was that kids were being prepped to appear to be at higher math levels than they actually understood.

Many of the kids in the remedial math classes that year were kids who had been in advanced math prep programs for years but had never really understood the basic foundational skills they needed for that advanced math. They knew how to work the problems, but they didn’t really understand the why and how of what they were doing.

And these problems didn’t just pop up in 2011. The TJ math teachers had been noticing these problems for a number of years and had decided to take action by requiring remedial work right away for freshmen they noticed were having problems. The idea was to identify kids and give them extra support so that they could be successful at TJ. Most of the kids who needed this support were kids who had taken prep classes to help them through the application process.

Yes, yes. I understand what you are saying..wink wink...

Hmm, I’m not sure what your “wink wink” is supposed to be. I’m just recounting the facts of what happened at that time as someone who was there as a parent of a student.

At the time, there were people who were trying to misrepresent the situation and make it seem that there was somehow something wrong with the class of 2015, but that was not true. The math teachers had been noticing these problems for years and decided they needed to do something about it and came up with this plan. I don’t know exactly where it is online, but the teachers wrote a report that you can read if you’re interested in the history of what happened there.