Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is really sad to me is that media hates DJT so much that they are gleeful to think that a promising treatment does not work---just becaues Trump wants it to work.

Who are the caring people? Those who want it to fail, or those who want it to succeed?

Why did Trump glom on to hydroxychloroquine? Is he a medical doctor? He should stay in his lane.

Because it was the only thing that had shown signs of any success when this started. Now, there are a couple of other things, but none as widely available.

One of the issues with the studies being done is that they are being done on patients who were very ill already. Lots of governors didn’t even allow a doc to prescribe it unless the patient was hospitalized and in a bad way. The doctors that had success with the protocol used it BEFORE patients were bad enough to be hospitalized, were still at home, and were just starting to go down a bad path. Which makes a lot of sense, given how the drug works, which is to stop replication of the pathogen in RBCs. Once replication is high (i.e. patient is already sick enough to require hospitalization), a drug that works in this manner would not have any effect anymore.

interesting theory which can ONLY be proven through clinical trials.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Let's actually read this piece.
Oh, look here...

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment."

And, I read on and find......

"The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

So, this was another anecdotal report. Not a double blind study.

You cannot promote this "study" as fact and ignore the anecdotal reports of doctors and patients who have success with the combination of these two drugs.
They are all anecdotal.

in conclusion, Trump and his proxies were lying when they claimed it “works” and people who say otherwise just “hate Trump so much they want people to die.”

No.
There are many anecdotal reports of people, and doctors, who have said that they made marked improvement after taking this combination of drugs.
There are also anecdotal reports of people who had serious, and sometimes fatal side effects after taking these drugs.

Both can be true. And, so far, all the reports are anecdotal.

Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Let's actually read this piece.
Oh, look here...

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment."

And, I read on and find......

"The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

So, this was another anecdotal report. Not a double blind study.

You cannot promote this "study" as fact and ignore the anecdotal reports of doctors and patients who have success with the combination of these two drugs.
They are all anecdotal.

in conclusion, Trump and his proxies were lying when they claimed it “works” and people who say otherwise just “hate Trump so much they want people to die.”

No.
There are many anecdotal reports of people, and doctors, who have said that they made marked improvement after taking this combination of drugs.
There are also anecdotal reports of people who had serious, and sometimes fatal side effects after taking these drugs.

Both can be true. And, so far, all the reports are anecdotal.

Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

the anecdotal nature is not hard at all for me to understand. The question is why Trump and Fox were pushing it, to the extent people were claiming here that clinical trials were a Democratic ploy to undermine Trump. Beyond that, there were other reasons to think the French doctor was questionable, and the “French studies” were worthless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Let's actually read this piece.
Oh, look here...

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment."

And, I read on and find......

"The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

So, this was another anecdotal report. Not a double blind study.

You cannot promote this "study" as fact and ignore the anecdotal reports of doctors and patients who have success with the combination of these two drugs.
They are all anecdotal.

in conclusion, Trump and his proxies were lying when they claimed it “works” and people who say otherwise just “hate Trump so much they want people to die.”

No.
There are many anecdotal reports of people, and doctors, who have said that they made marked improvement after taking this combination of drugs.
There are also anecdotal reports of people who had serious, and sometimes fatal side effects after taking these drugs.

Both can be true. And, so far, all the reports are anecdotal.

Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

the anecdotal nature is not hard at all for me to understand. The question is why Trump and Fox were pushing it, to the extent people were claiming here that . Beyond that, there were other reasons to think the French doctor was questionable, and the “French studies” were worthless.

If "pushing it," you mean having people speak who claim that HQX was the remedy that caused their recovery - that is actually news.
Just like others are touting the success of Remdesivir.
And, who claimed that "clinical trials were a Democratic ploy to undermine Trump?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Let's actually read this piece.
Oh, look here...

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment."

And, I read on and find......

"The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

So, this was another anecdotal report. Not a double blind study.

You cannot promote this "study" as fact and ignore the anecdotal reports of doctors and patients who have success with the combination of these two drugs.
They are all anecdotal.

in conclusion, Trump and his proxies were lying when they claimed it “works” and people who say otherwise just “hate Trump so much they want people to die.”

No.
There are many anecdotal reports of people, and doctors, who have said that they made marked improvement after taking this combination of drugs.
There are also anecdotal reports of people who had serious, and sometimes fatal side effects after taking these drugs.

Both can be true. And, so far, all the reports are anecdotal.

Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

the anecdotal nature is not hard at all for me to understand. The question is why Trump and Fox were pushing it, to the extent people were claiming here that . Beyond that, there were other reasons to think the French doctor was questionable, and the “French studies” were worthless.

If "pushing it," you mean having people speak who claim that HQX was the remedy that caused their recovery - that is actually news.
Just like others are touting the success of Remdesivir.
And, who claimed that "clinical trials were a Democratic ploy to undermine Trump?"

dude we ALL saw this happening in real time here. There is no backing away from what happened. On the one side, we had people saying “we don’t know until clinical trials.” On the other hand, you had “Fire Fauci!” and Laura Ingragam claiming Democrats want to kill people, and Trump setting off a hoarding panic that meant lupus patients couldn’t get their meds.

you can’t back pedal now, no matter how hard you try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Let's actually read this piece.
Oh, look here...

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment."

And, I read on and find......

"The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

So, this was another anecdotal report. Not a double blind study.

You cannot promote this "study" as fact and ignore the anecdotal reports of doctors and patients who have success with the combination of these two drugs.
They are all anecdotal.

in conclusion, Trump and his proxies were lying when they claimed it “works” and people who say otherwise just “hate Trump so much they want people to die.”

No.
There are many anecdotal reports of people, and doctors, who have said that they made marked improvement after taking this combination of drugs.
There are also anecdotal reports of people who had serious, and sometimes fatal side effects after taking these drugs.

Both can be true. And, so far, all the reports are anecdotal.

Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

the anecdotal nature is not hard at all for me to understand. The question is why Trump and Fox were pushing it, to the extent people were claiming here that . Beyond that, there were other reasons to think the French doctor was questionable, and the “French studies” were worthless.

If "pushing it," you mean having people speak who claim that HQX was the remedy that caused their recovery - that is actually news.
Just like others are touting the success of Remdesivir.
And, who claimed that "clinical trials were a Democratic ploy to undermine Trump?"

dude we ALL saw this happening in real time here. There is no backing away from what happened. On the one side, we had people saying “we don’t know until clinical trials.” On the other hand, you had “Fire Fauci!” and Laura Ingragam claiming Democrats want to kill people, and Trump setting off a hoarding panic that meant lupus patients couldn’t get their meds.

you can’t back pedal now, no matter how hard you try.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/business/media/virus-fox-news-hydroxychloroquine.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Let's actually read this piece.
Oh, look here...

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment."

And, I read on and find......

"The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

So, this was another anecdotal report. Not a double blind study.

You cannot promote this "study" as fact and ignore the anecdotal reports of doctors and patients who have success with the combination of these two drugs.
They are all anecdotal.

in conclusion, Trump and his proxies were lying when they claimed it “works” and people who say otherwise just “hate Trump so much they want people to die.”

No.
There are many anecdotal reports of people, and doctors, who have said that they made marked improvement after taking this combination of drugs.
There are also anecdotal reports of people who had serious, and sometimes fatal side effects after taking these drugs.

Both can be true. And, so far, all the reports are anecdotal.

Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

the anecdotal nature is not hard at all for me to understand. The question is why Trump and Fox were pushing it, to the extent people were claiming here that . Beyond that, there were other reasons to think the French doctor was questionable, and the “French studies” were worthless.

If "pushing it," you mean having people speak who claim that HQX was the remedy that caused their recovery - that is actually news.
Just like others are touting the success of Remdesivir.
And, who claimed that "clinical trials were a Democratic ploy to undermine Trump?"

dude we ALL saw this happening in real time here. There is no backing away from what happened. On the one side, we had people saying “we don’t know until clinical trials.” On the other hand, you had “Fire Fauci!” and Laura Ingragam claiming Democrats want to kill people, and Trump setting off a hoarding panic that meant lupus patients couldn’t get their meds.

you can’t back pedal now, no matter how hard you try.

The BARDA Director has filed a whistleblower complaint about this
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/22/rick-bright-barda-director-claims-political-retali/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Let's actually read this piece.
Oh, look here...

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment."

And, I read on and find......

"The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

So, this was another anecdotal report. Not a double blind study.

You cannot promote this "study" as fact and ignore the anecdotal reports of doctors and patients who have success with the combination of these two drugs.
They are all anecdotal.

in conclusion, Trump and his proxies were lying when they claimed it “works” and people who say otherwise just “hate Trump so much they want people to die.”

No.
There are many anecdotal reports of people, and doctors, who have said that they made marked improvement after taking this combination of drugs.
There are also anecdotal reports of people who had serious, and sometimes fatal side effects after taking these drugs.

Both can be true. And, so far, all the reports are anecdotal.

Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

the anecdotal nature is not hard at all for me to understand. The question is why Trump and Fox were pushing it, to the extent people were claiming here that . Beyond that, there were other reasons to think the French doctor was questionable, and the “French studies” were worthless.

If "pushing it," you mean having people speak who claim that HQX was the remedy that caused their recovery - that is actually news.
Just like others are touting the success of Remdesivir.
And, who claimed that "clinical trials were a Democratic ploy to undermine Trump?"

dude we ALL saw this happening in real time here. There is no backing away from what happened. On the one side, we had people saying “we don’t know until clinical trials.” On the other hand, you had “Fire Fauci!” and Laura Ingragam claiming Democrats want to kill people, and Trump setting off a hoarding panic that meant lupus patients couldn’t get their meds.

you can’t back pedal now, no matter how hard you try.

The BARDA Director has filed a whistleblower complaint about this
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/22/rick-bright-barda-director-claims-political-retali/

Sounds like there is much more to this story.

Politico....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Let's actually read this piece.
Oh, look here...

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment."

And, I read on and find......

"The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

So, this was another anecdotal report. Not a double blind study.

You cannot promote this "study" as fact and ignore the anecdotal reports of doctors and patients who have success with the combination of these two drugs.
They are all anecdotal.

in conclusion, Trump and his proxies were lying when they claimed it “works” and people who say otherwise just “hate Trump so much they want people to die.”

No.
There are many anecdotal reports of people, and doctors, who have said that they made marked improvement after taking this combination of drugs.
There are also anecdotal reports of people who had serious, and sometimes fatal side effects after taking these drugs.

Both can be true. And, so far, all the reports are anecdotal.

Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

the anecdotal nature is not hard at all for me to understand. The question is why Trump and Fox were pushing it, to the extent people were claiming here that . Beyond that, there were other reasons to think the French doctor was questionable, and the “French studies” were worthless.

If "pushing it," you mean having people speak who claim that HQX was the remedy that caused their recovery - that is actually news.
Just like others are touting the success of Remdesivir.
And, who claimed that "clinical trials were a Democratic ploy to undermine Trump?"

dude we ALL saw this happening in real time here. There is no backing away from what happened. On the one side, we had people saying “we don’t know until clinical trials.” On the other hand, you had “Fire Fauci!” and Laura Ingragam claiming Democrats want to kill people, and Trump setting off a hoarding panic that meant lupus patients couldn’t get their meds.

you can’t back pedal now, no matter how hard you try.

The BARDA Director has filed a whistleblower complaint about this
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/22/rick-bright-barda-director-claims-political-retali/

Sounds like there is much more to this story.

Politico....

Anyone who disagrees with Trump is guilt of “incompetence and insubordination” in his mind. This just backs it up. He probably told Trump the truth back in January about something else, and Trump has wanted him gone ever since.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Let's actually read this piece.
Oh, look here...

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment."

And, I read on and find......

"The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

So, this was another anecdotal report. Not a double blind study.

You cannot promote this "study" as fact and ignore the anecdotal reports of doctors and patients who have success with the combination of these two drugs.
They are all anecdotal.

in conclusion, Trump and his proxies were lying when they claimed it “works” and people who say otherwise just “hate Trump so much they want people to die.”

No.
There are many anecdotal reports of people, and doctors, who have said that they made marked improvement after taking this combination of drugs.
There are also anecdotal reports of people who had serious, and sometimes fatal side effects after taking these drugs.

Both can be true. And, so far, all the reports are anecdotal.

Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

the anecdotal nature is not hard at all for me to understand. The question is why Trump and Fox were pushing it, to the extent people were claiming here that . Beyond that, there were other reasons to think the French doctor was questionable, and the “French studies” were worthless.

If "pushing it," you mean having people speak who claim that HQX was the remedy that caused their recovery - that is actually news.
Just like others are touting the success of Remdesivir.
And, who claimed that "clinical trials were a Democratic ploy to undermine Trump?"

dude we ALL saw this happening in real time here. There is no backing away from what happened. On the one side, we had people saying “we don’t know until clinical trials.” On the other hand, you had “Fire Fauci!” and Laura Ingragam claiming Democrats want to kill people, and Trump setting off a hoarding panic that meant lupus patients couldn’t get their meds.

you can’t back pedal now, no matter how hard you try.

The BARDA Director has filed a whistleblower complaint about this
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/22/rick-bright-barda-director-claims-political-retali/

Sounds like there is much more to this story.

Politico....

that politico article is extremely thinly sourced ... I'm sure there's a lot more to the story, but that he got pushed out in part to his lack of support for the Trump/Navarro touting of hydroxycholoroquine still seems perfectly plausible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Let's actually read this piece.
Oh, look here...

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment."

And, I read on and find......

"The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

So, this was another anecdotal report. Not a double blind study.

You cannot promote this "study" as fact and ignore the anecdotal reports of doctors and patients who have success with the combination of these two drugs.
They are all anecdotal.

in conclusion, Trump and his proxies were lying when they claimed it “works” and people who say otherwise just “hate Trump so much they want people to die.”

No.
There are many anecdotal reports of people, and doctors, who have said that they made marked improvement after taking this combination of drugs.
There are also anecdotal reports of people who had serious, and sometimes fatal side effects after taking these drugs.

Both can be true. And, so far, all the reports are anecdotal.

Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

the anecdotal nature is not hard at all for me to understand. The question is why Trump and Fox were pushing it, to the extent people were claiming here that . Beyond that, there were other reasons to think the French doctor was questionable, and the “French studies” were worthless.

If "pushing it," you mean having people speak who claim that HQX was the remedy that caused their recovery - that is actually news.
Just like others are touting the success of Remdesivir.
And, who claimed that "clinical trials were a Democratic ploy to undermine Trump?"

dude we ALL saw this happening in real time here. There is no backing away from what happened. On the one side, we had people saying “we don’t know until clinical trials.” On the other hand, you had “Fire Fauci!” and Laura Ingragam claiming Democrats want to kill people, and Trump setting off a hoarding panic that meant lupus patients couldn’t get their meds.

you can’t back pedal now, no matter how hard you try.

The BARDA Director has filed a whistleblower complaint about this
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/22/rick-bright-barda-director-claims-political-retali/

Sounds like there is much more to this story.

Politico....

Anyone who disagrees with Trump is guilt of “incompetence and insubordination” in his mind. This just backs it up. He probably told Trump the truth back in January about something else, and Trump has wanted him gone ever since.

also ... if you read the ENTIRE twitter thread (instead of the one tweet you selectively posted) you see that the reporter makes extremely clear that numerous sources have reported being pressured by the Trump Admin on hydroxychloroquine, and that the sources now making claims about Bright are all inside the Trump Admin. https://threader.app/thread/1253061054659248129

[Anonymous]

Well now it seems that Trump doesn’t even really know hydroxychloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine was just a coffee boy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well now it seems that Trump doesn’t even really know hydroxychloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine was just a coffee boy.

Hydroxychloroquine who? Never heard of him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is really sad to me is that media hates DJT so much that they are gleeful to think that a promising treatment does not work---just becaues Trump wants it to work.

Who are the caring people? Those who want it to fail, or those who want it to succeed?

Why did Trump glom on to hydroxychloroquine? Is he a medical doctor? He should stay in his lane.

Because it was the only thing that had shown signs of any success when this started. Now, there are a couple of other things, but none as widely available.

One of the issues with the studies being done is that they are being done on patients who were very ill already. Lots of governors didn’t even allow a doc to prescribe it unless the patient was hospitalized and in a bad way. The doctors that had success with the protocol used it BEFORE patients were bad enough to be hospitalized, were still at home, and were just starting to go down a bad path. Which makes a lot of sense, given how the drug works, which is to stop replication of the pathogen in RBCs. Once replication is high (i.e. patient is already sick enough to require hospitalization), a drug that works in this manner would not have any effect anymore.

interesting theory which can ONLY be proven through clinical trials.

That's how the drug has worked for malaria patients for some 40 years - stops the parasite from replicating in RBCs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Let's actually read this piece.
Oh, look here...

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment."

And, I read on and find......

"The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

So, this was another anecdotal report. Not a double blind study.

You cannot promote this "study" as fact and ignore the anecdotal reports of doctors and patients who have success with the combination of these two drugs.
They are all anecdotal.

in conclusion, Trump and his proxies were lying when they claimed it “works” and people who say otherwise just “hate Trump so much they want people to die.”

No.
There are many anecdotal reports of people, and doctors, who have said that they made marked improvement after taking this combination of drugs.
There are also anecdotal reports of people who had serious, and sometimes fatal side effects after taking these drugs.

Both can be true. And, so far, all the reports are anecdotal.

Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

the anecdotal nature is not hard at all for me to understand. The question is why Trump and Fox were pushing it, to the extent people were claiming here that clinical trials were a Democratic ploy to undermine Trump. Beyond that, there were other reasons to think the French doctor was questionable, and the “French studies” were worthless.

What Trump and Fox were 'pushing' was the concept that the decision to try this drug combination belongs with patient and doctor, NOT with governors