Big Little Lies HBO
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Anonymous
This thread would be so great if we could delete this ridiculous comment and all the comments commenting on this ridiculous comment. Or make another spin off thread or three. |
Anonymous
Let's get back on track. |
Anonymous
Yeah, it was jarring, especially with Celeste's flashbacks to abuse during therapy. At first I thought she was taking the children and leaving the country-- the camera showed the Departures sign-- but that wouldn't make sense given the murder investigation/interviews. The actress who is playing the therapist is doing a superb job, as well. |
Anonymous
His not knowing about the first day vs. orientation day struck me, too, and I wondered if it was Celeste purposely not telling him. But, I think he also surprised her by coming to the first day, when he was supposed to leave for a trip that day. So, I don't think they had an actual conversation about it - he showed up and surprised her and she just played happy to have him there. Did she know it would end in a fight and she was delaying the fight by not telling him it was no big deal or was she looking forward to his realization/disappointment/tantrum? I think that's part of their dynamic. Easier for her to not mention things that could erupt into a fight, but also a little bit passive aggressive on her part. |
Anonymous
LOVED her in Enlightenment and LOVE her in BLL. I miss that show! (I also couldn't get over Molly Shannon's acting in Enlightenment. That show didn't get enough credit.) I like how Renatta's the only character who pronounces Madeline's name with a long I and she does it every time. |
Anonymous
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I just read an interview (on Vulture) where LD says she mispronounces Madeline to irritate Reese. LD is fantastic. I love watching her act, as much as her character irritates me. I think we've all been that woman.
Can we talk about Jane putting the gun under her pillow while sleeping next to Ziggy? WTF. And in the same episode, didn't Madeline compliment Jane on her parenting? This has got to be significant as the therapist/teacher/principal keep asking her about Ziggy's background/home life--whether there is anything significant/ |
Anonymous
I had an 'oh--wow--she's getting out moment' right then too. Then-- I realized guilt and shame made her go to the airport. BUT also TERROR--she knows if Perry finds out she told the therapist that she's dead. She's probably also afraid of losing everything and having everyone find out her secret. |
Anonymous
| I honestly don't understand the abuse dynamic with Celeste and Perry. How can the therapist be telling her to leave him and to prepare a way to get out when Celeste admits that she hits him too? Isn't that sexist of the therapist to assume Celeste is the only being abused when Celeste tells her it's mutual and often leads to sex? I'm so confused! |
Anonymous
Perry always initiates the violence. Plus men are just stronger and more capable of "accidentally" killing a woman in the heat of the moment. So Celeste is definitely more at-risk than Perry. |
Anonymous
Because the therapist can see right through Celeste big little lie. Celeste is trying to rationalize Perry's behavior to him and argue her way out of, as I am sure she has argued with herself about the abuse. Celeste is a smart accomplished lawyer. She knows that she is a domestic victim, but she is being terrorized and controlled by him. Just rewatch the Lego scene and then the flashback where he beats her up because she didn't pick up the Legos and flashed back to a time he almost strangled or suffocated her. |
Anonymous
Kidman is spot on. I'm in a similar relationship. Not physical abuse just emotional but I see and hear myself in her. |
Anonymous
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Notice how the therapist draws out that Celeste is all bruised up (admittedly outside of rough sex) and that Celeste has never left a mark on Perry (despite Celeste's repeated claims that the violence is "mutual").
The therapy sessions are so well done. |
Anonymous
Spot on. And the therapist pushes and probes in just the right ways. Kidman is outstanding as Celeste. |
Anonymous
"I hit him too" is an excuse that domestic violence victims often offer up in defense of their abuser. What they are depicting is a scenario in which they fight off their abuser and defend themselves (like Celeste does), not a scenario in which they aggressively lash out, out of nowhere, and abuse their mates and inflict traumatic physical pain. Women who are physically abused come up with all kinds of excuses why they are to blame (or are somehow equally responsible) for their state of physical abuse. -- I hit him too -- I provoke him -- I'm dishonest -- I talked to another man/flirted/look at another man -- I don't do what he asks -- The home is messy (like Celeste not picking up the toys) -- I don't have sex enough, or the right way None of this matters. None of it excuses abuse. |
Anonymous
| I am getting really sad that it's almost over. |