First day drop off -- MD tags

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You can call douche all you want - but in the eyes of the law and the IRS, primary residency matters.

But some of the residency cheats on this board think it's okay to prove residency using rental property or use grandparent's address, etc. THAT is not okay.

There's no "primary" residency requirement for at public schools in DC. There is only a need to prove that the enrolling parent lives in DC and pays taxes at that address through real estate, payroll or utilities. There are scores of parents with rented residence, shared custody, custodial arrangements with extended family, foster children, children whose parents are dead or under supervision...the number of legitimate possibilities exceeds the number of made up presumptions trotted out in this thread AND, as a few have pointed out, cheaters are getting caught. It's simply not that easy to cheat OSSE's proof of residency.

In the 80's and 90's? Yeah, people cheated because policymakers didn't give a shit about the people left to rot in the pockets of concentrated poverty that they'd created. Now, obviously, there's an interest in protecting the expanded tax base that's filling those pockets so the rules have changed and enforcement is stringent.

What's more obvious is that the caterwauling that's going on here is primarily about getting "undesirables" out of schools and neighborhoods. References to "old timers", churchgoers and PG county make that crystal clear because everyone knows that the demographics for those groups are entirely black. No need to call it racist because you know what it is and keep typing it out.

Ironically, it's the stupid speculation about black people cheating that provides cover for white people who are much more likely to have the means to do it.

Exactly!

At my EOTP dual language school, it's the Hispanics who are breaking the law. Serveral Md plates on a daily basis and they aren't the nannies vehicles. I was told before that it's easier to register/get a license in Md for this racial group.

I was just thinking about exactly this issue. Especially now that the neighborhood is filling up with families willing to attend the school but somehow they're now simultaneously concerned that their kid will be one of two English speakers in their classroom, but also that they might not even get in. It might be, there also, a case of the school's administration turning a blind eye, because it has over time created a school whose mission is to educate the ELL population, and they think it's what they do best.

At my EOTP dual language school, I wasn't allowed to enroll my kid because my drivers license showed the same local address as my car registration, but the car was registered in my husband's name. How about a utility in my name printed out from the internet since we're a paperless household? Nope, it has to be a bill that went through the mail. They wouldn't even accept a W-2 form.

After filling out all the forms and taking off half a day of work, I had to re-do everything in husband's name and HE had to take off work to enroll. And I have to say that the office staff person was a real asshole about it. She wouldn't allow me to just re-submit the enrollment form, I had to re-do everything that had my signature on it.

That doesn't say anything about how residency cheaters are treated. Just because they'll be extreme sticklers with a few upper middle class families, doesn't mean they wouldn't just take any document or promise of document from another family.

At my neighborhood DPR pool, the very young only lifeguard who got to know everyone, made the frequent customer white dad go home 5 blocks away for his driver's license, while the AA mom, who told me she didn't know where the Banneker pool was because she lives in Maryland, wasn't asked for anything at all beyond signing in. And I'm not saying he was being racist. It took a few summer weeks at the pool to decide that his differential treatment wasn't preferential treatment.

I wouldn't be surprised if my own EOTP dual language school (could be the same one), gave me a hell of a time to provide them the best set of residency proofs that they can hand over to inspectors as an example of how paperwork is handled at their school, [/b]while cutting lots and lots of corners with and giving lots and lots of leeway to lots of other families. Differentiation.

[b]

How would you know this. I am sure the administrators did not tell you, "we cut lots at corners to let Aiden in, but we made you prove everything". I am also sure Aiden's parents did not tell you that corners were cut for Aiden's admittance. You my dear are a liar, as your story is not plausible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You can call douche all you want - but in the eyes of the law and the IRS, primary residency matters.

But some of the residency cheats on this board think it's okay to prove residency using rental property or use grandparent's address, etc. THAT is not okay.

There's no "primary" residency requirement for at public schools in DC. There is only a need to prove that the enrolling parent lives in DC and pays taxes at that address through real estate, payroll or utilities. There are scores of parents with rented residence, shared custody, custodial arrangements with extended family, foster children, children whose parents are dead or under supervision...the number of legitimate possibilities exceeds the number of made up presumptions trotted out in this thread AND, as a few have pointed out, cheaters are getting caught. It's simply not that easy to cheat OSSE's proof of residency.

In the 80's and 90's? Yeah, people cheated because policymakers didn't give a shit about the people left to rot in the pockets of concentrated poverty that they'd created. Now, obviously, there's an interest in protecting the expanded tax base that's filling those pockets so the rules have changed and enforcement is stringent.

What's more obvious is that the caterwauling that's going on here is primarily about getting "undesirables" out of schools and neighborhoods. References to "old timers", churchgoers and PG county make that crystal clear because everyone knows that the demographics for those groups are entirely black. No need to call it racist because you know what it is and keep typing it out.

Ironically, it's the stupid speculation about black people cheating that provides cover for white people who are much more likely to have the means to do it.

Exactly!

/quote]

And why would I?

White parents think there are about 12 schools out of 115 ( http://find.myschooldc.org/ ) - that's one hundred and fifteen schools offering pre-school for 3 year olds in DC - considered "acceptable" for their children. But they also believe that black and hispanic parents are the ones most likely cheating. OH, and that POOR KIDS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CHEATED MOST.

Um, okay.

Girl, don't you know that they have put their flag on those 12 schools, and they don't want too much pepper in their grits. You know they have jumped the shark with their cheating accusations when they now claim not only the black students are interlopers, but Hispanic students are as well.

[Anonymous]

There's a woman at my pool in MD who lives in MD, uses the Moco library yet her car has DC tags. How does this happen? NO idea where the kids go to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Best part of this forum is that the white hipster actually has the nuts to talk back to the mad black woman where if he was walking in Petworth or brightwood or what ever shit hole and she went all Laquita on him he would just uncomfortably look away and keep walking. Here with the power of anonymity with a splash of animosity he fires back.

If that poster is your definition of the angry Black woman, all the other women posting are the epitome ofthe hysterical white woman who has failed to take her daily Xanax dosage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best part of this forum is that the white hipster actually has the nuts to talk back to the mad black woman where if he was walking in Petworth or brightwood or what ever shit hole and she went all Laquita on him he would just uncomfortably look away and keep walking. Here with the power of anonymity with a splash of animosity he fires back.

So there are more than 300 posts of vociferous indignation at the mere idea of residency cheaters (please do point to proof of the cheating if I've missed it in this or one of 28 other DCUM threads on the topic) but the one poster who challenges the fantasy and identifies as AA is the one who's gone "all Laquita"?

WTFF? So you're not upset about being called a racist asshole, you're owning it outright.

It's cute that you describe her posts as "challenging the fantasy". I don't see any real content added to challenge anything, just indignant yelling and name-calling. But what do I know, I'm just a busybody asshole.

Where's the yelling and screaming? That poster did not use all cap letters. Damn you're reaching PP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a woman at my pool in MD who lives in MD, uses the Moco library yet her car has DC tags. How does this happen? NO idea where the kids go to school.

It's not a secret. She hasn't registered her car in Maryland yet. She will probably do it when it's up for renewal. Why pay DC registration when MD registration and insurance is less expensive?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You can call douche all you want - but in the eyes of the law and the IRS, primary residency matters.

But some of the residency cheats on this board think it's okay to prove residency using rental property or use grandparent's address, etc. THAT is not okay.

There's no "primary" residency requirement for at public schools in DC. There is only a need to prove that the enrolling parent lives in DC and pays taxes at that address through real estate, payroll or utilities. There are scores of parents with rented residence, shared custody, custodial arrangements with extended family, foster children, children whose parents are dead or under supervision...the number of legitimate possibilities exceeds the number of made up presumptions trotted out in this thread AND, as a few have pointed out, cheaters are getting caught. It's simply not that easy to cheat OSSE's proof of residency.

In the 80's and 90's? Yeah, people cheated because policymakers didn't give a shit about the people left to rot in the pockets of concentrated poverty that they'd created. Now, obviously, there's an interest in protecting the expanded tax base that's filling those pockets so the rules have changed and enforcement is stringent.

What's more obvious is that the caterwauling that's going on here is primarily about getting "undesirables" out of schools and neighborhoods. References to "old timers", churchgoers and PG county make that crystal clear because everyone knows that the demographics for those groups are entirely black. No need to call it racist because you know what it is and keep typing it out.

Ironically, it's the stupid speculation about black people cheating that provides cover for white people who are much more likely to have the means to do it.

Exactly!

At my EOTP dual language school, it's the Hispanics who are breaking the law. Serveral Md plates on a daily basis and they aren't the nannies vehicles. I was told before that it's easier to register/get a license in Md for this racial group.

I was just thinking about exactly this issue. Especially now that the neighborhood is filling up with families willing to attend the school but somehow they're now simultaneously concerned that their kid will be one of two English speakers in their classroom, but also that they might not even get in. It might be, there also, a case of the school's administration turning a blind eye, because it has over time created a school whose mission is to educate the ELL population, and they think it's what they do best.

At my EOTP dual language school, I wasn't allowed to enroll my kid because my drivers license showed the same local address as my car registration, but the car was registered in my husband's name. How about a utility in my name printed out from the internet since we're a paperless household? Nope, it has to be a bill that went through the mail. They wouldn't even accept a W-2 form.

After filling out all the forms and taking off half a day of work, I had to re-do everything in husband's name and HE had to take off work to enroll. And I have to say that the office staff person was a real asshole about it. She wouldn't allow me to just re-submit the enrollment form, I had to re-do everything that had my signature on it.

That doesn't say anything about how residency cheaters are treated. Just because they'll be extreme sticklers with a few upper middle class families, doesn't mean they wouldn't just take any document or promise of document from another family.

At my neighborhood DPR pool, the very young only lifeguard who got to know everyone, made the frequent customer white dad go home 5 blocks away for his driver's license, while the AA mom, who told me she didn't know where the Banneker pool was because she lives in Maryland, wasn't asked for anything at all beyond signing in. And I'm not saying he was being racist. It took a few summer weeks at the pool to decide that his differential treatment wasn't preferential treatment.

I wouldn't be surprised if my own EOTP dual language school (could be the same one), gave me a hell of a time to provide them the best set of residency proofs that they can hand over to inspectors as an example of how paperwork is handled at their school, [/b]while cutting lots and lots of corners with and giving lots and lots of leeway to lots of other families. Differentiation.

[b]

How would you know this. I am sure the administrators did not tell you, "we cut lots at corners to let Aiden in, but we made you prove everything". I am also sure Aiden's parents did not tell you that corners were cut for Aiden's admittance. You my dear are a liar, as your story is not plausible.

Ew, addressing someone as "my dear" while calling them a liar in the same sentence. The passive aggressive version of the screaming name-calling. Thanks for making an effort.

You, stranger on the Internet, are pretending to lack reading comprehension. Noone telling a story, starting with "I wouldn't be surprised if" can be called a liar for it.

[Anonymous]

I am a dc resident, with dc tags. I use the silver spring library all the time. Because I AM ALLOWED TO. I CHECKED.

My dc neighbor told me there's a great pool in Hyattsville or something? With a wait list? That we should try and join.

There's a woman at my pool in MD who lives in MD, uses the Moco library yet her car has DC tags. How does this happen? NO idea where the kids go to school.



There's a woman at my pool in MD who lives in MD, uses the Moco library yet her car has DC tags. How does this happen? NO idea where the kids go to school.

Again, the District is NOT EVEN A DAMN STATE. Get your sticks out of your asses on this topic.

[Anonymous]

Vienna is incredibly diverse, I doubt that PP has ever even been there.

You're right. I'm sorry. I don't know Virginia at all. What should I have said?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You can call douche all you want - but in the eyes of the law and the IRS, primary residency matters.

But some of the residency cheats on this board think it's okay to prove residency using rental property or use grandparent's address, etc. THAT is not okay.

There's no "primary" residency requirement for at public schools in DC. There is only a need to prove that the enrolling parent lives in DC and pays taxes at that address through real estate, payroll or utilities. There are scores of parents with rented residence, shared custody, custodial arrangements with extended family, foster children, children whose parents are dead or under supervision...the number of legitimate possibilities exceeds the number of made up presumptions trotted out in this thread AND, as a few have pointed out, cheaters are getting caught. It's simply not that easy to cheat OSSE's proof of residency.

In the 80's and 90's? Yeah, people cheated because policymakers didn't give a shit about the people left to rot in the pockets of concentrated poverty that they'd created. Now, obviously, there's an interest in protecting the expanded tax base that's filling those pockets so the rules have changed and enforcement is stringent.

What's more obvious is that the caterwauling that's going on here is primarily about getting "undesirables" out of schools and neighborhoods. References to "old timers", churchgoers and PG county make that crystal clear because everyone knows that the demographics for those groups are entirely black. No need to call it racist because you know what it is and keep typing it out.

Ironically, it's the stupid speculation about black people cheating that provides cover for white people who are much more likely to have the means to do it.

Exactly!

At my EOTP dual language school, it's the Hispanics who are breaking the law. Serveral Md plates on a daily basis and they aren't the nannies vehicles. I was told before that it's easier to register/get a license in Md for this racial group.

I was just thinking about exactly this issue. Especially now that the neighborhood is filling up with families willing to attend the school but somehow they're now simultaneously concerned that their kid will be one of two English speakers in their classroom, but also that they might not even get in. It might be, there also, a case of the school's administration turning a blind eye, because it has over time created a school whose mission is to educate the ELL population, and they think it's what they do best.

At my EOTP dual language school, I wasn't allowed to enroll my kid because my drivers license showed the same local address as my car registration, but the car was registered in my husband's name. How about a utility in my name printed out from the internet since we're a paperless household? Nope, it has to be a bill that went through the mail. They wouldn't even accept a W-2 form.

After filling out all the forms and taking off half a day of work, I had to re-do everything in husband's name and HE had to take off work to enroll. And I have to say that the office staff person was a real asshole about it. She wouldn't allow me to just re-submit the enrollment form, I had to re-do everything that had my signature on it.

That doesn't say anything about how residency cheaters are treated. Just because they'll be extreme sticklers with a few upper middle class families, doesn't mean they wouldn't just take any document or promise of document from another family.

At my neighborhood DPR pool, the very young only lifeguard who got to know everyone, made the frequent customer white dad go home 5 blocks away for his driver's license, while the AA mom, who told me she didn't know where the Banneker pool was because she lives in Maryland, wasn't asked for anything at all beyond signing in. And I'm not saying he was being racist. It took a few summer weeks at the pool to decide that his differential treatment wasn't preferential treatment.

I wouldn't be surprised if my own EOTP dual language school (could be the same one), gave me a hell of a time to provide them the best set of residency proofs that they can hand over to inspectors as an example of how paperwork is handled at their school, [/b]while cutting lots and lots of corners with and giving lots and lots of leeway to lots of other families. Differentiation.

[b]

How would you know this. I am sure the administrators did not tell you, "we cut lots at corners to let Aiden in, but we made you prove everything". I am also sure Aiden's parents did not tell you that corners were cut for Aiden's admittance. You my dear are a liar, as your story is not plausible.

Ew, addressing someone as "my dear" while calling them a liar in the same sentence. The passive aggressive version of the screaming name-calling. Thanks for making an effort.

You, stranger on the Internet, are pretending to lack reading comprehension. Noone telling a story, starting with "I wouldn't be surprised if" can be called a liar for it.

Dear Liar, you protest too much. You still can't answer the question of how you know another's personal information without the administration or specific individual divulging such information. Making stuff up to get your point across is called lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a woman at my pool in MD who lives in MD, uses the Moco library yet her car has DC tags. How does this happen? NO idea where the kids go to school.

It's not a secret. She hasn't registered her car in Maryland yet. She will probably do it when it's up for renewal. Why pay DC registration when MD registration and insurance is less expensive?

She's not a newcomer to the neighborhood. Been there for years and I see her everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best part of this forum is that the white hipster actually has the nuts to talk back to the mad black woman where if he was walking in Petworth or brightwood or what ever shit hole and she went all Laquita on him he would just uncomfortably look away and keep walking. Here with the power of anonymity with a splash of animosity he fires back.

If that poster is your definition of the angry Black woman, all the other women posting are the epitome ofthe hysterical white woman who has failed to take her daily Xanax dosage.

If it's an angry black women, she would go all Bonquisha on him not Laquita

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You can call douche all you want - but in the eyes of the law and the IRS, primary residency matters.

But some of the residency cheats on this board think it's okay to prove residency using rental property or use grandparent's address, etc. THAT is not okay.

There's no "primary" residency requirement for at public schools in DC. There is only a need to prove that the enrolling parent lives in DC and pays taxes at that address through real estate, payroll or utilities. There are scores of parents with rented residence, shared custody, custodial arrangements with extended family, foster children, children whose parents are dead or under supervision...the number of legitimate possibilities exceeds the number of made up presumptions trotted out in this thread AND, as a few have pointed out, cheaters are getting caught. It's simply not that easy to cheat OSSE's proof of residency.

In the 80's and 90's? Yeah, people cheated because policymakers didn't give a shit about the people left to rot in the pockets of concentrated poverty that they'd created. Now, obviously, there's an interest in protecting the expanded tax base that's filling those pockets so the rules have changed and enforcement is stringent.

What's more obvious is that the caterwauling that's going on here is primarily about getting "undesirables" out of schools and neighborhoods. References to "old timers", churchgoers and PG county make that crystal clear because everyone knows that the demographics for those groups are entirely black. No need to call it racist because you know what it is and keep typing it out.

Ironically, it's the stupid speculation about black people cheating that provides cover for white people who are much more likely to have the means to do it.

Exactly!

At my EOTP dual language school, it's the Hispanics who are breaking the law. Serveral Md plates on a daily basis and they aren't the nannies vehicles. I was told before that it's easier to register/get a license in Md for this racial group.

I was just thinking about exactly this issue. Especially now that the neighborhood is filling up with families willing to attend the school but somehow they're now simultaneously concerned that their kid will be one of two English speakers in their classroom, but also that they might not even get in. It might be, there also, a case of the school's administration turning a blind eye, because it has over time created a school whose mission is to educate the ELL population, and they think it's what they do best.

At my EOTP dual language school, I wasn't allowed to enroll my kid because my drivers license showed the same local address as my car registration, but the car was registered in my husband's name. How about a utility in my name printed out from the internet since we're a paperless household? Nope, it has to be a bill that went through the mail. They wouldn't even accept a W-2 form.

After filling out all the forms and taking off half a day of work, I had to re-do everything in husband's name and HE had to take off work to enroll. And I have to say that the office staff person was a real asshole about it. She wouldn't allow me to just re-submit the enrollment form, I had to re-do everything that had my signature on it.

That doesn't say anything about how residency cheaters are treated. Just because they'll be extreme sticklers with a few upper middle class families, doesn't mean they wouldn't just take any document or promise of document from another family.

At my neighborhood DPR pool, the very young only lifeguard who got to know everyone, made the frequent customer white dad go home 5 blocks away for his driver's license, while the AA mom, who told me she didn't know where the Banneker pool was because she lives in Maryland, wasn't asked for anything at all beyond signing in. And I'm not saying he was being racist. It took a few summer weeks at the pool to decide that his differential treatment wasn't preferential treatment.

I wouldn't be surprised if my own EOTP dual language school (could be the same one), gave me a hell of a time to provide them the best set of residency proofs that they can hand over to inspectors as an example of how paperwork is handled at their school, [/b]while cutting lots and lots of corners with and giving lots and lots of leeway to lots of other families. Differentiation.

[b]

How would you know this. I am sure the administrators did not tell you, "we cut lots at corners to let Aiden in, but we made you prove everything". I am also sure Aiden's parents did not tell you that corners were cut for Aiden's admittance. You my dear are a liar, as your story is not plausible.

Ew, addressing someone as "my dear" while calling them a liar in the same sentence. The passive aggressive version of the screaming name-calling. Thanks for making an effort.

You, stranger on the Internet, are pretending to lack reading comprehension. Noone telling a story, starting with "I wouldn't be surprised if" can be called a liar for it.

Dear Liar, you protest too much. You still can't answer the question of how you know another's personal information without the administration or specific individual divulging such information. Making stuff up to get your point across is called lying.

Can someone help me here? This is going to bother me for a while. Is she pretending to not understand the expression "I wouldn't be surprised if [we had a really cold winter this year]", as an excuse to bark and call me a liar, or is she really that dead stupid? I don't care about the back and forth, where she's going to call me honey next, and maybe i can keep up brit-polite for another exchange, but I'm really stumped about that kind of trolling. Is it trolling? Is it truly culture clash? It can't possibly. It's doing such a disservice to communication between ethnic groups on DCUM to have crazy angry reading-challenged trolls screaming racism at everyone all the time. Reasonable AA women, please speak up.

[Anonymous]

Meh. I'm a DC resident and my children have lots (well, not lots... a good number) of non-DC resident peers in their classes. I think it's great for a plethora of reasons and we are all glad to be parents of our charter. In the meantime, I look forward to watching the parents who are popping blood vessels trying to scope out MD tags during drop off and pick up and like the idea of parking a block or so away and walking up. If we lost our spot, I'd be pretty disappointed, but hounding adults to prove or disprove anything is just...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meh. I'm a DC resident and my children have lots (well, not lots... a good number) of non-DC resident peers in their classes. I think it's great for a plethora of reasons and we are all glad to be parents of our charter. In the meantime, I look forward to watching the parents who are popping blood vessels trying to scope out MD tags during drop off and pick up and like the idea of parking a block or so away and walking up. If we lost our spot, I'd be pretty disappointed, but hounding adults to prove or disprove anything is just...

So you think it's great that kids who don't live in DC are taking spots in your charter that otherwise coukd have gone to DC kids, and receiving a free education paid for by the DC taxpayers?! You have no problem with fraud and theft of services apparently.