How to fight this new anti-childcare winter weather approach?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it appears that Taylor and MCPS have managed to piss off yet another major constituency with this decision. You're on a roll, TT!


He's really talented at angering his constituents.


He's unelected and only cares about his next job


Unfortunately, he is still here and runs MCPS dictatorially.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, it appears that Taylor and MCPS have managed to piss off yet another major constituency with this decision. You're on a roll, TT!


He's really talented at angering his constituents.


He's unelected and only cares about his next job


Unfortunately, he is still here and runs MCPS dictatorially.


I will be so grateful when he leaves. How long is his contract for?
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Anonymous wrote:Mcps can make the call on when facility can be open or not. Just because they have de iced and custodian can "turn on lights" doesn't mean there will be humans there to watch your kids


Thanks, we trust the providers to make that call. Does MCPS not?


They use MCPS facility. What are you not understanding, my f jeesuz.


Do you not understand the difference between landlords and tenants? Do you seriously think it is a landlord's role to say "hmm, I think some of my tenants might not be able to get enough staff to come in today and might have to choose to stay closed, so I guess I will prohibit any of my tenants from having the choice to open in the first place?"

(Leaving aside the fact that there is exactly zero evidence of any staffing challenges in the first place.)


This isn't like a building owner telling a store that they can't open. The terms of usage of the MCPS buildings and the potential scheduling liabilities are disclosed to the providers and shared with the clients. You don't have to think they are right or to like them in order to understand that those are the rules of engagement.


The issue isn't whether or not MCPS *can* prevent child care providers from opening. It is whether or not they *should.*

MCPS is publicly accountable (or should be, at least) as a taxpayer-funded government program. We can and should expect them to make sensible decisions.

Ad you said, they're not just a typical landlord here.


they should protect their employees. why are you anti-worker?


How does opening all day child cares at 9 but keeping beforecare closed protect MCPS employees? Who all were told to report at their regular time anyway?


Are you the same daft person asking why why why over and over. Do you read? This has been answered countless times on this very thread. Disgusting parents who dgaf except for themselves and not even for the people who look after who should be your most precious gift(s).


Lady the child care providers were ready to open, and have done so without incident for years. You are making up this fake concern for the staff.


MCPS noted concern for its staff in its explanatory letter posted above. I get that it is impossible to believe that MCPS cares about its staff being in inclement weather.


That makes no sense since they told their staff to report on time


are you staff?


It was in their public message. "Emergency personnel report on time and follow guidelines for delayed openings."


Who is included in 'emergency personnel'?
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Anonymous wrote:Well, it appears that Taylor and MCPS have managed to piss off yet another major constituency with this decision. You're on a roll, TT!


He's really talented at angering his constituents.


but you guys are really really easy to anger.
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Anonymous wrote:Mcps can make the call on when facility can be open or not. Just because they have de iced and custodian can "turn on lights" doesn't mean there will be humans there to watch your kids


Thanks, we trust the providers to make that call. Does MCPS not?


They use MCPS facility. What are you not understanding, my f jeesuz.


Do you not understand the difference between landlords and tenants? Do you seriously think it is a landlord's role to say "hmm, I think some of my tenants might not be able to get enough staff to come in today and might have to choose to stay closed, so I guess I will prohibit any of my tenants from having the choice to open in the first place?"

(Leaving aside the fact that there is exactly zero evidence of any staffing challenges in the first place.)


This isn't like a building owner telling a store that they can't open. The terms of usage of the MCPS buildings and the potential scheduling liabilities are disclosed to the providers and shared with the clients. You don't have to think they are right or to like them in order to understand that those are the rules of engagement.


The issue isn't whether or not MCPS *can* prevent child care providers from opening. It is whether or not they *should.*

MCPS is publicly accountable (or should be, at least) as a taxpayer-funded government program. We can and should expect them to make sensible decisions.

Ad you said, they're not just a typical landlord here.


they should protect their employees. why are you anti-worker?


How does opening all day child cares at 9 but keeping beforecare closed protect MCPS employees? Who all were told to report at their regular time anyway?


Are you the same daft person asking why why why over and over. Do you read? This has been answered countless times on this very thread. Disgusting parents who dgaf except for themselves and not even for the people who look after who should be your most precious gift(s).


Lady the child care providers were ready to open, and have done so without incident for years. You are making up this fake concern for the staff.


MCPS noted concern for its staff in its explanatory letter posted above. I get that it is impossible to believe that MCPS cares about its staff being in inclement weather.


High schools were able to open well before elementary schools. Are you saying they didn't care about the high school staff?
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Anonymous wrote:Mcps can make the call on when facility can be open or not. Just because they have de iced and custodian can "turn on lights" doesn't mean there will be humans there to watch your kids


Thanks, we trust the providers to make that call. Does MCPS not?


They use MCPS facility. What are you not understanding, my f jeesuz.


Do you not understand the difference between landlords and tenants? Do you seriously think it is a landlord's role to say "hmm, I think some of my tenants might not be able to get enough staff to come in today and might have to choose to stay closed, so I guess I will prohibit any of my tenants from having the choice to open in the first place?"

(Leaving aside the fact that there is exactly zero evidence of any staffing challenges in the first place.)


This isn't like a building owner telling a store that they can't open. The terms of usage of the MCPS buildings and the potential scheduling liabilities are disclosed to the providers and shared with the clients. You don't have to think they are right or to like them in order to understand that those are the rules of engagement.


The issue isn't whether or not MCPS *can* prevent child care providers from opening. It is whether or not they *should.*

MCPS is publicly accountable (or should be, at least) as a taxpayer-funded government program. We can and should expect them to make sensible decisions.

Ad you said, they're not just a typical landlord here.


they should protect their employees. why are you anti-worker?


How does opening all day child cares at 9 but keeping beforecare closed protect MCPS employees? Who all were told to report at their regular time anyway?


Are you the same daft person asking why why why over and over. Do you read? This has been answered countless times on this very thread. Disgusting parents who dgaf except for themselves and not even for the people who look after who should be your most precious gift(s).


Lady the child care providers were ready to open, and have done so without incident for years. You are making up this fake concern for the staff.


MCPS noted concern for its staff in its explanatory letter posted above. I get that it is impossible to believe that MCPS cares about its staff being in inclement weather.


That makes no sense since they told their staff to report on time


are you staff?


It was in their public message. "Emergency personnel report on time and follow guidelines for delayed openings."


Who is included in 'emergency personnel'?


Do some staff deserve more protection than others?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, it appears that Taylor and MCPS have managed to piss off yet another major constituency with this decision. You're on a roll, TT!


He's really talented at angering his constituents.


but you guys are really really easy to anger.


Seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:Mcps can make the call on when facility can be open or not. Just because they have de iced and custodian can "turn on lights" doesn't mean there will be humans there to watch your kids


Thanks, we trust the providers to make that call. Does MCPS not?


They use MCPS facility. What are you not understanding, my f jeesuz.


Do you not understand the difference between landlords and tenants? Do you seriously think it is a landlord's role to say "hmm, I think some of my tenants might not be able to get enough staff to come in today and might have to choose to stay closed, so I guess I will prohibit any of my tenants from having the choice to open in the first place?"

(Leaving aside the fact that there is exactly zero evidence of any staffing challenges in the first place.)


This isn't like a building owner telling a store that they can't open. The terms of usage of the MCPS buildings and the potential scheduling liabilities are disclosed to the providers and shared with the clients. You don't have to think they are right or to like them in order to understand that those are the rules of engagement.


The issue isn't whether or not MCPS *can* prevent child care providers from opening. It is whether or not they *should.*

MCPS is publicly accountable (or should be, at least) as a taxpayer-funded government program. We can and should expect them to make sensible decisions.

Ad you said, they're not just a typical landlord here.


they should protect their employees. why are you anti-worker?


How does opening all day child cares at 9 but keeping beforecare closed protect MCPS employees? Who all were told to report at their regular time anyway?


Are you the same daft person asking why why why over and over. Do you read? This has been answered countless times on this very thread. Disgusting parents who dgaf except for themselves and not even for the people who look after who should be your most precious gift(s).


Lady the child care providers were ready to open, and have done so without incident for years. You are making up this fake concern for the staff.


MCPS noted concern for its staff in its explanatory letter posted above. I get that it is impossible to believe that MCPS cares about its staff being in inclement weather.


That makes no sense since they told their staff to report on time


are you staff?


It was in their public message. "Emergency personnel report on time and follow guidelines for delayed openings."


Who is included in 'emergency personnel'?


The staff that prepare buildings and grounds to open.

In all likelihood, schools had everyone already in the buildings that would have been needed to allow child care to start. They just didn't let them unlock the doors.
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Anonymous wrote:Mcps can make the call on when facility can be open or not. Just because they have de iced and custodian can "turn on lights" doesn't mean there will be humans there to watch your kids


Thanks, we trust the providers to make that call. Does MCPS not?


They use MCPS facility. What are you not understanding, my f jeesuz.


Do you not understand the difference between landlords and tenants? Do you seriously think it is a landlord's role to say "hmm, I think some of my tenants might not be able to get enough staff to come in today and might have to choose to stay closed, so I guess I will prohibit any of my tenants from having the choice to open in the first place?"

(Leaving aside the fact that there is exactly zero evidence of any staffing challenges in the first place.)


This isn't like a building owner telling a store that they can't open. The terms of usage of the MCPS buildings and the potential scheduling liabilities are disclosed to the providers and shared with the clients. You don't have to think they are right or to like them in order to understand that those are the rules of engagement.


The issue isn't whether or not MCPS *can* prevent child care providers from opening. It is whether or not they *should.*

MCPS is publicly accountable (or should be, at least) as a taxpayer-funded government program. We can and should expect them to make sensible decisions.

Ad you said, they're not just a typical landlord here.


they should protect their employees. why are you anti-worker?


How does opening all day child cares at 9 but keeping beforecare closed protect MCPS employees? Who all were told to report at their regular time anyway?


Are you the same daft person asking why why why over and over. Do you read? This has been answered countless times on this very thread. Disgusting parents who dgaf except for themselves and not even for the people who look after who should be your most precious gift(s).


Lady the child care providers were ready to open, and have done so without incident for years. You are making up this fake concern for the staff.


MCPS noted concern for its staff in its explanatory letter posted above. I get that it is impossible to believe that MCPS cares about its staff being in inclement weather.


That makes no sense since they told their staff to report on time


are you staff?


It was in their public message. "Emergency personnel report on time and follow guidelines for delayed openings."


Who is included in 'emergency personnel'?


Do some staff deserve more protection than others?


You tell me. Why did elementary school staff need more time than high school staff?
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Anonymous wrote:Mcps can make the call on when facility can be open or not. Just because they have de iced and custodian can "turn on lights" doesn't mean there will be humans there to watch your kids


Thanks, we trust the providers to make that call. Does MCPS not?


They use MCPS facility. What are you not understanding, my f jeesuz.


Do you not understand the difference between landlords and tenants? Do you seriously think it is a landlord's role to say "hmm, I think some of my tenants might not be able to get enough staff to come in today and might have to choose to stay closed, so I guess I will prohibit any of my tenants from having the choice to open in the first place?"

(Leaving aside the fact that there is exactly zero evidence of any staffing challenges in the first place.)


This isn't like a building owner telling a store that they can't open. The terms of usage of the MCPS buildings and the potential scheduling liabilities are disclosed to the providers and shared with the clients. You don't have to think they are right or to like them in order to understand that those are the rules of engagement.


The issue isn't whether or not MCPS *can* prevent child care providers from opening. It is whether or not they *should.*

MCPS is publicly accountable (or should be, at least) as a taxpayer-funded government program. We can and should expect them to make sensible decisions.

Ad you said, they're not just a typical landlord here.


they should protect their employees. why are you anti-worker?


How does opening all day child cares at 9 but keeping beforecare closed protect MCPS employees? Who all were told to report at their regular time anyway?


Are you the same daft person asking why why why over and over. Do you read? This has been answered countless times on this very thread. Disgusting parents who dgaf except for themselves and not even for the people who look after who should be your most precious gift(s).


Nope, it has not been answered a single time. I'd love to see one though.

And you seem to be the only person here who doesn't care about other people since you are spending your day yelling at stressed parents for poking holes in MCPS's swiss cheese arguments, and ignoring it every time we try to explain the issues to you, presumably because you get off on making us upset.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, it appears that Taylor and MCPS have managed to piss off yet another major constituency with this decision. You're on a roll, TT!


He's really talented at angering his constituents.


but you guys are really really easy to anger.


Seriously.


It is infuriating that CO staff make so much money to exhibit judgement that is at best simply poor and quite possibly malicious.
Anonymous
This was definitely a ridiculous decision. However, in my experience, an "abundance of caution" is often due to previous lawsuits.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, it appears that Taylor and MCPS have managed to piss off yet another major constituency with this decision. You're on a roll, TT!


He's really talented at angering his constituents.


but you guys are really really easy to anger.


Oh, Taylor we got your message loud and clear in your recent video message. You made it clear that you were irritated with some parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This was definitely a ridiculous decision. However, in my experience, an "abundance of caution" is often due to previous lawsuits.


Lawsuits are public record. Have there been any related to weather? I'd be pretty surprised if there have been.
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Anonymous wrote:I think they bungled the childcare thing and the code yellow messaging.

BUT! I did not get 500 texts, 50 emails, or a creepy 5am robocall to wake me up this time. Just one text and one email. For that I am thankful.


I got blasted with texts and emails yesterday asking “Are you ready?” Only for MCPS to not follow their own code yellow protocols they wasted all that time advertiisng
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