How to fight this new anti-childcare winter weather approach?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP does not comprehend that workers at childcare centers exist and go home at night.


This is a dumb, lazy response to a legitimate concern. There's zero reason why childcare workers and their employers can't be allowed to make their own decisions about whether they're able to open like all other businesses.


maybe the school district is protecting those workers to we continue to have child care workers.


There is no danger that we're going to run out of childcare workers if they're asked to commute in the rain.


yes, treating people even more poorly surely will result in them wanting to take those jobs, which already have trouble finding consistent employees.


I'm sure people will be lining up to take the job where the county might randomly decide you can't work (and get paid) for the day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s raining m, deal with it. My kids had school yesterday and have it today and we have 18 inches of snow.


Then what are you doing on a Montgomery County Public Schools thread? Get a life man.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does maintenance have to arrive earlier than childcare to clear the roads, parking lot and sidewalk when there is ice? Could that be a factor in their decision?


There is NO ICE in many parts of the county and the areas are perfectly safe if child care starts before maintenance arrives.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You're lucky the school system provides these services at all. It doesn't have to. Quit your whining.


Shut up, CO staffer. MCPS doesn't do crap for us. These are private child care providers that provide a valuable service for us, that we pay for at our own expense, that MCPS is forcing to close for no good reason.


LOL I'm not a county staffer. How much are the workers being paid for for their "valuable service?" Hint: peanuts.


It's even less than peanuts today, but you're cheering that on.
Anonymous
Yes!!! We also have a in-school before/aftercare childcare provider that planned to open at their discretion but was forbidden by MCPS.
Our elementary school doesn’t open its doors until 9:05 so with a two hour delay that is 11:05 (with 11:25 start time). All out of “an abundance of caution” for a tiny part of this huge county.

OP (and I) are not asking for MCPS to FORCE before-school care to be open. We are asking them to ALLOW these businesses who operate within the building to use their own discretion about whether to open (I.e. on a two-hour delay from their normal hours) based on what they know about the safety and availability of their staff. Especially on the context of MCPS acknowledging that they are making decisions for a vast area and are often taking closure actions that are completely unnecessary in most of the county.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes!!! We also have a in-school before/aftercare childcare provider that planned to open at their discretion but was forbidden by MCPS.
Our elementary school doesn’t open its doors until 9:05 so with a two hour delay that is 11:05 (with 11:25 start time). All out of “an abundance of caution” for a tiny part of this huge county.

OP (and I) are not asking for MCPS to FORCE before-school care to be open. We are asking them to ALLOW these businesses who operate within the building to use their own discretion about whether to open (I.e. on a two-hour delay from their normal hours) based on what they know about the safety and availability of their staff. Especially on the context of MCPS acknowledging that they are making decisions for a vast area and are often taking closure actions that are completely unnecessary in most of the county.


This also worked for years. This is a new policy. There was no disaster when the childcare companies and their employers figured it out.
Anonymous
If it's on MCPS property and MCPS made a call that it is not safe to be on its property or that it isn't going to be ready to open until later, then it's MCPS's call. If there were an accident, you'd certainly want to hold MCPS responsible. So, the flip side is that MCPS has to make these types of decisions. Honestly, I will never get why people who are so reliant on childcare use the childcare at the schools knowing that the school system controls when they open and close when there are other options that are more reliable in bad weather.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP does not comprehend that workers at childcare centers exist and go home at night.


This is a dumb, lazy response to a legitimate concern. There's zero reason why childcare workers and their employers can't be allowed to make their own decisions about whether they're able to open like all other businesses.


maybe the school district is protecting those workers to we continue to have child care workers.


There is no danger that we're going to run out of childcare workers if they're asked to commute in the rain.


yes, treating people even more poorly surely will result in them wanting to take those jobs, which already have trouble finding consistent employees.


Asking child care workers to come to work in the rain is not treating them poorly.

MCPS teachers and staff are the ones being treated poorly by having 4 hours of child care taken away from them this morning due to rain (but only a 2 hour delay for them to come to work.) Why aren't you concerned about the need to treat teachers well to keep them?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If it's on MCPS property and MCPS made a call that it is not safe to be on its property or that it isn't going to be ready to open until later, then it's MCPS's call. If there were an accident, you'd certainly want to hold MCPS responsible. So, the flip side is that MCPS has to make these types of decisions. Honestly, I will never get why people who are so reliant on childcare use the childcare at the schools knowing that the school system controls when they open and close when there are other options that are more reliable in bad weather.


KAH always used to be reliable in bad weather, until last year. And still would be, if MCPS wasn't forcing them not to. What is wrong with you that you don't understand that it's inappropriate for MCPS to make countywide decisions about which individual elementary school area is safe?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP does not comprehend that workers at childcare centers exist and go home at night.


This is a dumb, lazy response to a legitimate concern. There's zero reason why childcare workers and their employers can't be allowed to make their own decisions about whether they're able to open like all other businesses.


maybe the school district is protecting those workers to we continue to have child care workers.


There is no danger that we're going to run out of childcare workers if they're asked to commute in the rain.


yes, treating people even more poorly surely will result in them wanting to take those jobs, which already have trouble finding consistent employees.


If your concern is treatment of the employees, that's an issue for the employer. Which isn't MCPS.


+1. My older DC used to work at one of the before/aftercare programs when they were in college. Like anywhere, some employers are better than others, but generally they want to retain good employees too and the head of the program DC worked for seemed to be pretty understanding if someone couldn't make it in due to illness, weather, etc. We don't live very far from the school and snow was never an issue for DC but there were one or two times she covered for someoene else.
Anonymous
Taylor is such an ahole. Their own message says their own 2 hour delay is based on "an abundance of caution". Admin offices are open normally. This is a clear message to working parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP does not comprehend that workers at childcare centers exist and go home at night.


This is a dumb, lazy response to a legitimate concern. There's zero reason why childcare workers and their employers can't be allowed to make their own decisions about whether they're able to open like all other businesses.


maybe the school district is protecting those workers to we continue to have child care workers.


There is no danger that we're going to run out of childcare workers if they're asked to commute in the rain.


yes, treating people even more poorly surely will result in them wanting to take those jobs, which already have trouble finding consistent employees.


Asking child care workers to come to work in the rain is not treating them poorly.

MCPS teachers and staff are the ones being treated poorly by having 4 hours of child care taken away from them this morning due to rain (but only a 2 hour delay for them to come to work.) Why aren't you concerned about the need to treat teachers well to keep them?


They need a backup plan. Or maybe I should say, multiple backup plans. I'm actually watching my neighbor's ES kids this morning for that very reason beacuse mom is a HS teacher, dad is out of town, and grandma is sick.....
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It’s raining m, deal with it. My kids had school yesterday and have it today and we have 18 inches of snow.


Then what are you doing on a Montgomery County Public Schools thread? Get a life man.


+1. What on earth is this poster doing on this thread?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP does not comprehend that workers at childcare centers exist and go home at night.


This is a dumb, lazy response to a legitimate concern. There's zero reason why childcare workers and their employers can't be allowed to make their own decisions about whether they're able to open like all other businesses.


maybe the school district is protecting those workers to we continue to have child care workers.


There is no danger that we're going to run out of childcare workers if they're asked to commute in the rain.


yes, treating people even more poorly surely will result in them wanting to take those jobs, which already have trouble finding consistent employees.


Asking child care workers to come to work in the rain is not treating them poorly.

MCPS teachers and staff are the ones being treated poorly by having 4 hours of child care taken away from them this morning due to rain (but only a 2 hour delay for them to come to work.) Why aren't you concerned about the need to treat teachers well to keep them?


I actually think this is something the union should be taking up with MCPS. They have more clout than individual working parents.
Anonymous
So who do we email? Board of Ed? COO Mamoon? Taylor? Andrea Swiatocha?
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