Antizionism is not antisemitism/the current conflict

[Anonymous]

Hey 11:25, Why didn’t Netanyahu allow any immediate response/aid/police on 10/7?
He sat back and watched the slaughter of his own people for hours and hours.

I’m not picking sides, I just want to know why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey 11:25, Why didn’t Netanyahu allow any immediate response/aid/police on 10/7?
He sat back and watched the slaughter of his own people for hours and hours.

I’m not picking sides, I just want to know why.

He is incompetent and was caught flatfooted. I have seen zero credible evidence that he intentionally allowed the slaughter of his own people. What ostensible political goal would that even serve? His popularity within Israel absolutely tanked after October 7 and the war in Gaza hasn’t done much to rehabilitate his image.

And let’s say your bonkers conspiracy theory is true and he did intentionally allow October 7 to happen - is he ultimately responsible for October 7? Did he make Hamas spend billions of dollars digging terror tunnels and acquiring arms? Did he tell them to shoot thousands of rockets at Israel? Did he make Hamas murder 1,200 Jewish people including literal babies in the most horrific, sadistic ways possible? Did he make 70% of Gazans support October 7?

What are you trying to achieve with the argument? That’s a rhetorical question, I know you’re trying to blame Jews for their own victimhood while denying Palestinians any agency whatsoever.

[Anonymous]

All religions are cults, all religions, every single religion out there. Some more extreme than others. It’s all magical thinking based on ancient fiction. Anyone living their life based on what a religion tells to do is insane. If I made up a modern list of rituals and rules to strictly follow I would be called mentally ill. All religions do are separate people and create an us vs them mentality.

[Anonymous]

Are we all still waiting for the messiah or mashiach to come?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 11:25, Why didn’t Netanyahu allow any immediate response/aid/police on 10/7?
He sat back and watched the slaughter of his own people for hours and hours.

I’m not picking sides, I just want to know why.

He is incompetent and was caught flatfooted. I have seen zero credible evidence that he intentionally allowed the slaughter of his own people. What ostensible political goal would that even serve? His popularity within Israel absolutely tanked after October 7 and the war in Gaza hasn’t done much to rehabilitate his image.

And let’s say your bonkers conspiracy theory is true and he did intentionally allow October 7 to happen - is he ultimately responsible for October 7? Did he make Hamas spend billions of dollars digging terror tunnels and acquiring arms? Did he tell them to shoot thousands of rockets at Israel? Did he make Hamas murder 1,200 Jewish people including literal babies in the most horrific, sadistic ways possible? Did he make 70% of Gazans support October 7?

What are you trying to achieve with the argument? That’s a rhetorical question, I know you’re trying to blame Jews for their own victimhood while denying Palestinians any agency whatsoever.

Netanyahu is neither incompetent nor flat-footed. The Gaza border is the most well secured and protected area in the world and somehow people think it's believable that a rag tag army with paragliders made it over to conduct an operation. And then it took 6 to 8 hours for some type of military response in a country the size of New Jersey. Only a moron would not see through this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 11:25, Why didn’t Netanyahu allow any immediate response/aid/police on 10/7?
He sat back and watched the slaughter of his own people for hours and hours.

I’m not picking sides, I just want to know why.

He is incompetent and was caught flatfooted. I have seen zero credible evidence that he intentionally allowed the slaughter of his own people. What ostensible political goal would that even serve? His popularity within Israel absolutely tanked after October 7 and the war in Gaza hasn’t done much to rehabilitate his image.

And let’s say your bonkers conspiracy theory is true and he did intentionally allow October 7 to happen - is he ultimately responsible for October 7? Did he make Hamas spend billions of dollars digging terror tunnels and acquiring arms? Did he tell them to shoot thousands of rockets at Israel? Did he make Hamas murder 1,200 Jewish people including literal babies in the most horrific, sadistic ways possible? Did he make 70% of Gazans support October 7?

What are you trying to achieve with the argument? That’s a rhetorical question, I know you’re trying to blame Jews for their own victimhood while denying Palestinians any agency whatsoever.

Netanyahu is neither incompetent nor flat-footed. The Gaza border is the most well secured and protected area in the world and somehow people think it's believable that a rag tag army with paragliders made it over to conduct an operation. And then it took 6 to 8 hours for some type of military response in a country the size of New Jersey. Only a moron would not see through this.

This. x10000.

[Anonymous]

Eliminate all religions and eliminate these problems. We’d still find ways to discriminate against one another but magical thinking wouldn’t be part of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 11:25, Why didn’t Netanyahu allow any immediate response/aid/police on 10/7?
He sat back and watched the slaughter of his own people for hours and hours.

I’m not picking sides, I just want to know why.

He is incompetent and was caught flatfooted. I have seen zero credible evidence that he intentionally allowed the slaughter of his own people. What ostensible political goal would that even serve? His popularity within Israel absolutely tanked after October 7 and the war in Gaza hasn’t done much to rehabilitate his image.

And let’s say your bonkers conspiracy theory is true and he did intentionally allow October 7 to happen - is he ultimately responsible for October 7? Did he make Hamas spend billions of dollars digging terror tunnels and acquiring arms? Did he tell them to shoot thousands of rockets at Israel? Did he make Hamas murder 1,200 Jewish people including literal babies in the most horrific, sadistic ways possible? Did he make 70% of Gazans support October 7?

What are you trying to achieve with the argument? That’s a rhetorical question, I know you’re trying to blame Jews for their own victimhood while denying Palestinians any agency whatsoever.

Netanyahu is neither incompetent nor flat-footed. The Gaza border is the most well secured and protected area in the world and somehow people think it's believable that a rag tag army with paragliders made it over to conduct an operation. And then it took 6 to 8 hours for some type of military response in a country the size of New Jersey. Only a moron would not see through this.

You conveniently didn’t address any of my other points. What would be Netanyahu’s incentive to do this? It puts his grip on power are severe risk.

Also, even assuming this were true re: Netanyahu - what does that matter wrt the current conflict? At WORST, he didn’t act to prevent an atrocity fully planned and carried out and funded by a different entity, Hamas, and widely supported by Palestinians. Hamas/their supporters still very much showed what would happen if Israelis loosened their grip on security or tried to pursue either a two state or one state solution.

[Anonymous]

All religions do is create a sense of ‘community’ which ultimately means exclusion of others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All religions do is create a sense of ‘community’ which ultimately means exclusion of others.

Same with races, nationalities, college fraternities, sports allegiances, etc. We are tribal animals. We will always find ways to divide ourselves. That is not relevant to the present discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All religions do is create a sense of ‘community’ which ultimately means exclusion of others.

Same with races, nationalities, college fraternities, sports allegiances, etc. We are tribal animals. We will always find ways to divide ourselves. That is not relevant to the present discussion.

Is antisemitism prejudice against people who practice Judaism? And antizionism is prejudice against people who think that Israel belongs to all Jews because the Torah said so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All religions do is create a sense of ‘community’ which ultimately means exclusion of others.

Same with races, nationalities, college fraternities, sports allegiances, etc. We are tribal animals. We will always find ways to divide ourselves. That is not relevant to the present discussion.

Is antisemitism prejudice against people who practice Judaism? And antizionism is prejudice against people who think that Israel belongs to all Jews because the Torah said so?

Antizionism is the belief that the state of Israel should no longer exist and its nine million Jewish inhabitants should be dispersed or left at the mercy of the Palestinians who very openly wish to annihilate them.

Pretty much no zionists (other than on the fringe religious right) think that Israel belongs only to Jews because the Torah said so. Read a book about what Zionism. Or visit the country. Or talk to literally any Israeli/zionist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eliminate all religions and eliminate these problems. We’d still find ways to discriminate against one another but magical thinking wouldn’t be part of it.

Totally agree. But then it would lay bare the fact that this has nothing to do with religion, and is in fact your standard white supremacy at work. These white Europeans want to claim some ancient ownership of this land, the brown people that actually live there won't just roll over and die, but because we're talking about white Europeans, the West looks the other way while they attempt to exterminate the indigenous people residing on the land.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eliminate all religions and eliminate these problems. We’d still find ways to discriminate against one another but magical thinking wouldn’t be part of it.

Totally agree. But then it would lay bare the fact that this has nothing to do with religion, and is in fact your standard white supremacy at work. These white Europeans want to claim some ancient ownership of this land, the brown people that actually live there won't just roll over and die, but because we're talking about white Europeans, the West looks the other way while they attempt to exterminate the indigenous people residing on the land.

I’m just going to copy and paste my previous question because no one bothered answering it last time:

Explain, in detail, why you think Israel, a country that is 20% non-Jewish Arab and 32% Mizrahi (or to put it in words you can understand, “brown people”) is WHITE SUPREMACIST. That’s not even getting into the fact that the Ahskenazi Jewish population descends from holocaust survivors who were persecuted specifically for being non-white/aryan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eliminate all religions and eliminate these problems. We’d still find ways to discriminate against one another but magical thinking wouldn’t be part of it.

Totally agree. But then it would lay bare the fact that this has nothing to do with religion, and is in fact your standard white supremacy at work. These white Europeans want to claim some ancient ownership of this land, the brown people that actually live there won't just roll over and die, but because we're talking about white Europeans, the West looks the other way while they attempt to exterminate the indigenous people residing on the land.

I’m just going to copy and paste my previous question because no one bothered answering it last time:

Explain, in detail, why you think Israel, a country that is 20% non-Jewish Arab and 32% Mizrahi (or to put it in words you can understand, “brown people”) is WHITE SUPREMACIST. That’s not even getting into the fact that the Ahskenazi Jewish population descends from holocaust survivors who were persecuted specifically for being non-white/aryan.

Who defines what white is? If someone has white skin why are they not considered white?