Tufts student detained by ICE

Anonymous
The classism in the media is saddening. When it happens to Central Americans, nobody cares but a wealthy Middle eastern Ph. d student must be breaking news. Or maybe the Muslim community are just better than the Hispanics for advocacy and public policy. Idk what it is but it is surprising to me that the Hispanic community raids (and they are raids) have made no noise since Trumps first term
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you're to learn, learn. If you're here to start trouble, get out.


How did she start trouble? Was she going to raid the Capitol with her friends? Did she post online about wanting to commit a mass shooting? Maybe we should focus on the folks that clearly are walking red flags about to start trouble. What’s the point of all the social media and phone access the government has if they can’t stop random attacks/mass shootings by nutjobs?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t care. I don’t visit other countries with the intent to protest anything that goes on there. I’m not entitled to visit any countries of which I am not a citizen.


Gaza is going on in the Us?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.


How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.


You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.


How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.


You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The classism in the media is saddening. When it happens to Central Americans, nobody cares but a wealthy Middle eastern Ph. d student must be breaking news. Or maybe the Muslim community are just better than the Hispanics for advocacy and public policy. Idk what it is but it is surprising to me that the Hispanic community raids (and they are raids) have made no noise since Trumps first term


What are you talking about, there has been reporting on the Hispanic community. In fact whole organizations are dedication time to tell folks to know their rights and how to protect their community. Despite the fact that a huge portion of Hispanics voted for this administration in spite of everything it has said about the Hispanic population and the complete indifference it has shown towards that community.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.


How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.


You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.


We really have become a nation that fears people speaking out. She was assaulted on the street in broad daylight and did nothing wrong. If folks think this will only happen to foreign students then they have not been paying attention. Some of ya’ll really need to review history and pastor Martin Niemöller words.

Anonymous
She wrote an op-ed. I don’t want to live in a country where people here legally are told to “keep your head down” instead of participating in our society.

Everyone in the US has first amendment rights and we are better off when people aren’t afraid if using them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She wrote an op-ed. I don’t want to live in a country where people here legally are told to “keep your head down” instead of participating in our society.

Everyone in the US has first amendment rights and we are better off when people aren’t afraid if using them.


+1

Definitely read her op-ed. It is chilling to think she was detained for that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.


How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.


You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.


The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)



Anonymous
When you’ve lost Ron Paul:

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.


How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.


You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.


The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)





How will she resume her studies when she has no student visa and ucsis and subsequent administrations won’t give her one. Shocker btw but foreign universities all over the world provide phds in psychology. Basic immigration in this country.
Anonymous
And this is how the US will lose status as a place of opportunity and top tier education. When nobody desires to come for studies, we may have kept people out of US but we've also taken away the most valuable piece of culture we have which in fact is that US is strong because it's a mixed global society. The US is on its way down - matter of time is all. I've told my kids they need to leverage college as a way out of this country that will have less future in a few years.
Anonymous
ICYMI:

An Iranian PhD student at Bama was taken be ICE and quickly removed to another state for detention—presumably before deportation.

And nobody knows why.
Anonymous
Realistically if she doesn’t fight the deportation she’ll be out of there in six to eight weeks. If she fights it she’ll be in there for months and unlikely she will win as she has just a student visa. And even if she wins life will be much more difficult after. I know what I will choose, going back home and getting out of detention asap.
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