Tufts student detained by ICE

[Anonymous]

South American dictatorship vibes.

[Anonymous]

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I would scream and kick and ask people to call 911. How would I know they are not a sex cult or some gang?

This! Why are they not in uniform? If some random men in masks approached me and tried to cuff me and force me into a car, I'd be screaming for my life. And if she had, they'd try to say she resisted arrest. This is insanity.

Is this the country you want to live in, conservatives? People getting kidnapped in the street by masked men allegedly working for the government? For the crime of voicing and opinion? Only you all can fix this mess you've made. Speak up. Contact your reps. Stop pretending this is normal.

This should be the part that is being discussed. Not to mention the usurping of people rights. Contact your Reps (local, state and federal). Contact the United Nations which has several committees that look into and report on “Enforced Disappearances“. Donate to the ACLU. Volunteer with organizations and firms doing the work against this.

Arm yourself and get self defense training. As other said you do not have to obey or go with people not in uniform and not willing to identify themselves and their agency. It is kidnapping.

If media won’t

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry - this student visa and green card holder round up is not going to get much popular support to keep them here.

If you travel in many places of the world and actually used text messaging instead of an encrypted app and said something offensive or inappropriate on text men with guns show up and hopefully you get taken to airport.
Most likely thrown in jail.

Deporting students involved in pro-hamas demonstrations is not a problem for most Americans.

So, the US should act like this as well??? Even if we were to agree that most Americans don't care about deporting pro-Hamas demonstrators, the tactics they are using to round up "undesirables" lean uncomfortably close to those used by authoritarian regimes. We can and should be better than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Misleading title.

Trump's secret police abducted a Tufts student.

Where are you Chuck Schumer?

Thank you, PP! We need to be much better of how we frame and talk about these abductions. They are not “deportations“ or “detained“, they are also not “kidnappings” They are ABDUCTIONS.

[Anonymous]

Lots of students on it are US citizens. I know some of them. What are they going to do with the US citizens on the list? Arrest them? Or take their citizenship away and deport them to Panama?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow… American democracy has been sacrificed in service of Israel.

Netanyahu proudly admitted on video that he has manipulated every US President involved in Israel|Gaza, and along with Putin, they are Trump’s puppet masters. I posted the very short FB video months ago. It’s buried somewhere or it was deleted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I would scream and kick and ask people to call 911. How would I know they are not a sex cult or some gang?

This! Why are they not in uniform? If some random men in masks approached me and tried to cuff me and force me into a car, I'd be screaming for my life. And if she had, they'd try to say she resisted arrest. This is insanity.

Is this the country you want to live in, conservatives? People getting kidnapped in the street by masked men allegedly working for the government? For the crime of voicing and opinion? Only you all can fix this mess you've made. Speak up. Contact your reps. Stop pretending this is normal.

This should be the part that is being discussed. Not to mention the usurping of people rights. Contact your Reps (local, state and federal). Contact the United Nations which has several committees that look into and report on “Enforced Disappearances“. Donate to the ACLU. Volunteer with organizations and firms doing the work against this.

Arm yourself and get self defense training. As other said you do not have to obey or go with people not in uniform and not willing to identify themselves and their agency. It is kidnapping.

If media won’t

This might be the worst advice in the long and sorry history of DCUM.

[Anonymous]

This is the reasoning that DHS gave for abducting the student:

"Rumesya Ozturk is a Turkish national and Tufts University graduate student, granted the privilege to be in this country on a visa. DHS and ICE investigations found Ozturk engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans. A visa is a privilege not a right. Glorifying and supporting terrorists who kill Americans is grounds for visa issuance to be terminated. This is commonsense security."

She co-authored an OpEd. That's it. I read it. There is nothing pro-Hamas in it. Hamas is not mentioned at all. The op-ed simply asks the university administration to uphold: "3 out of 4 resolutions [passed by the Tufts Community Union Senate] demanding that the University acknowledge the Palestinian genocide, apologize for University President Sunil Kumar’s statements, disclose its investments and divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel." I myself participated in college protests in the 80s asking my university to divest from investments in South Africa, which still had apartheid. That's a crime now?

Also, what's with the reference--twice--to Hamas as "a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans" and "terrorists who kill Americans?" I thought that the mission of Hamas was to destroy the Jewish state (obviously reprehensible and unacceptable). Now, according to DHS, its mission is also to kill Americans?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
This is the reasoning that DHS gave for abducting the student:

"Rumesya Ozturk is a Turkish national and Tufts University graduate student, granted the privilege to be in this country on a visa. DHS and ICE investigations found Ozturk engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans. A visa is a privilege not a right. Glorifying and supporting terrorists who kill Americans is grounds for visa issuance to be terminated. This is commonsense security."

She co-authored an OpEd. That's it. I read it. There is nothing pro-Hamas in it. Hamas is not mentioned at all. The op-ed simply asks the university administration to uphold: "3 out of 4 resolutions [passed by the Tufts Community Union Senate] demanding that the University acknowledge the Palestinian genocide, apologize for University President Sunil Kumar’s statements, disclose its investments and divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel." I myself participated in college protests in the 80s asking my university to divest from investments in South Africa, which still had apartheid. That's a crime now?

Also, what's with the reference--twice--to Hamas as "a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans" and "terrorists who kill Americans?" I thought that the mission of Hamas was to destroy the Jewish state (obviously reprehensible and unacceptable). Now, according to DHS, its mission is also to kill Americans?

Hamas killed 40+ Americans on 10/7.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of students on it are US citizens. I know some of them. What are they going to do with the US citizens on the list? Arrest them? Or take their citizenship away and deport them to Panama?

It's El Salvador for them. They just have to make sure there are no cameras

[Anonymous]

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Deleted tweet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This is the reasoning that DHS gave for abducting the student:

"Rumesya Ozturk is a Turkish national and Tufts University graduate student, granted the privilege to be in this country on a visa. DHS and ICE investigations found Ozturk engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans. A visa is a privilege not a right. Glorifying and supporting terrorists who kill Americans is grounds for visa issuance to be terminated. This is commonsense security."

She co-authored an OpEd. That's it. I read it. There is nothing pro-Hamas in it. Hamas is not mentioned at all. The op-ed simply asks the university administration to uphold: "3 out of 4 resolutions [passed by the Tufts Community Union Senate] demanding that the University acknowledge the Palestinian genocide, apologize for University President Sunil Kumar’s statements, disclose its investments and divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel." I myself participated in college protests in the 80s asking my university to divest from investments in South Africa, which still had apartheid. That's a crime now?

Also, what's with the reference--twice--to Hamas as "a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans" and "terrorists who kill Americans?" I thought that the mission of Hamas was to destroy the Jewish state (obviously reprehensible and unacceptable). Now, according to DHS, its mission is also to kill Americans?

Hamas killed 40+ Americans on 10/7.

I'm assuming they were dual nationals, not tourists. I happen to be a dual national due to a European parent, so I can relate to dual citizens in Israel, but the way the DHS language is written, it makes it sound like Hamas wants to kill all Americans, not just Israeli Americans/American Israelis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This is the reasoning that DHS gave for abducting the student:

"Rumesya Ozturk is a Turkish national and Tufts University graduate student, granted the privilege to be in this country on a visa. DHS and ICE investigations found Ozturk engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans. A visa is a privilege not a right. Glorifying and supporting terrorists who kill Americans is grounds for visa issuance to be terminated. This is commonsense security."

She co-authored an OpEd. That's it. I read it. There is nothing pro-Hamas in it. Hamas is not mentioned at all. The op-ed simply asks the university administration to uphold: "3 out of 4 resolutions [passed by the Tufts Community Union Senate] demanding that the University acknowledge the Palestinian genocide, apologize for University President Sunil Kumar’s statements, disclose its investments and divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel." I myself participated in college protests in the 80s asking my university to divest from investments in South Africa, which still had apartheid. That's a crime now?

Also, what's with the reference--twice--to Hamas as "a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans" and "terrorists who kill Americans?" I thought that the mission of Hamas was to destroy the Jewish state (obviously reprehensible and unacceptable). Now, according to DHS, its mission is also to kill Americans?

Hamas killed 40+ Americans on 10/7.

I'm assuming they were dual nationals, not tourists. I happen to be a dual national due to a European parent, so I can relate to dual citizens in Israel, but the way the DHS language is written, it makes it sound like Hamas wants to kill all Americans, not just Israeli Americans/American Israelis.

Well, Hamas is allied with Hezbollah, which definitely does want to kill Americans.

I don’t think the distinction you’re trying to draw is particularly meaningful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This is the reasoning that DHS gave for abducting the student:

"Rumesya Ozturk is a Turkish national and Tufts University graduate student, granted the privilege to be in this country on a visa. DHS and ICE investigations found Ozturk engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans. A visa is a privilege not a right. Glorifying and supporting terrorists who kill Americans is grounds for visa issuance to be terminated. This is commonsense security."

She co-authored an OpEd. That's it. I read it. There is nothing pro-Hamas in it. Hamas is not mentioned at all. The op-ed simply asks the university administration to uphold: "3 out of 4 resolutions [passed by the Tufts Community Union Senate] demanding that the University acknowledge the Palestinian genocide, apologize for University President Sunil Kumar’s statements, disclose its investments and divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel." I myself participated in college protests in the 80s asking my university to divest from investments in South Africa, which still had apartheid. That's a crime now?

Also, what's with the reference--twice--to Hamas as "a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans" and "terrorists who kill Americans?" I thought that the mission of Hamas was to destroy the Jewish state (obviously reprehensible and unacceptable). Now, according to DHS, its mission is also to kill Americans?

Hamas killed 40+ Americans on 10/7.

I'm assuming they were dual nationals, not tourists. I happen to be a dual national due to a European parent, so I can relate to dual citizens in Israel, but the way the DHS language is written, it makes it sound like Hamas wants to kill all Americans, not just Israeli Americans/American Israelis.

NP here: um, I'm pretty sure Hamas is down with kidnapping and killing Americans even if they are not dual Israeli citizens. If given the opportunity and all that...why wouldn't they? They like gaining leverage over the allies of Israel.

But that's not germane to the issue being discussed in this thread.

I have not seen any evidence from the federal government that the abduction of Rumeysa Ozturk was necessary. If they did it solely because of her op-ed, that is an egregious violation of the 1st Amendment.

The Feds need to come with receipts, like they did with the surgeon from Brown who was literally posing with terrorists at Nasralllah's funeral in her photo reel.