Palisades Fire - Los Angeles

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Why are they allowing this to happen?

it is a force of nature - we're having a wind storm of some magnitude its not a case of "allowing" anything

could you explain how you might not "allow" an earthquake, or a tsunami?

I think those winds they are seeing are supposed to pick up moisture and be another snow event here next week

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Ok. I wish people would stop bickering, and those who have info would post it. However, please don’t put yourself or anyone else in danger by attempting to get pictures or info.
Be safe. Even if you are not in the fire, it’s very traumatizing to all in that area.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam Brody and Leighton Meester lost their home. I guess I don't worry too much about wealthy celebrities who can always rebuild or buy elsewhere, but it must be a little traumatizing to lose your home. Hope people are being evacuated safely, and the regular folks will be able to recover from the massive financial hit.

Who are they?

Crawl out from under your rock

I'm genuinely sorry these people lost their homes. But they are not as famous as you think they are.

NP. Between The OC & Gossip Girl, they're pretty damn famous. But also, Nobody Wants This got a lot of attention this year and Adam got nominated for a Golden Globe at the ceremony that just happened. Between their historic fame and his hot at the moment fame, it is pretty surprising you don't know who they are.

NP. They aren’t A listers. Definitely not household names. I’ve heard of Adrien Brody but not Adam. Leighton is vaguely familiar.

I bought the series of the OC and I still had no idea who that was. You should have said Seth from the OC.

No idea who the girl is.

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Curious if these fire fighters have all the equipment they need.

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The palisades ran out of water last night
but the winds are 40 mph they are blowing the hoses water up into the air and away from the fires anyway

hopefully the wind will die down soon

I just went outside in an effort to walk the dog and it's still gusting strongly, there are black clouds in the sky as the firestorms encroach from all sides.

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Canadians are helping fight this fire while Trump demonizing the country.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 100% positive all the east coast jerks here wishing ill on Californians losing their homes are the same people who want compensation from the federal government when there is an inch of snow on the ground in DC.

DC folks aren’t wishing Californians ill will, or asking for $$ for an inch of snow. Take your ire elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 100% positive all the east coast jerks here wishing ill on Californians losing their homes are the same people who want compensation from the federal government when there is an inch of snow on the ground in DC.

DC folks aren’t wishing Californians ill will, or asking for $$ for an inch of snow. Take your ire elsewhere.

There have been several posters in this very thread doing exactly the bolded. At least the worst posts are getting deleted.

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Anonymous wrote:These homes start at $2.5M and go up rapidly from there. I bet most of these folks were self-insured.

This represents a huge, extremely wealthy chunk of the Los Angeles county tax base. Lots of families with young kids. It's as if a wild fire completely destroyed CCMD and adjacent neighborhoods in upper NW DC.


This disaster will upend Los Angeles's budget - lots of costs to clean up but also lots of these people will move away. It will only be partially rebuilt, likely with multi-family housing. The entire area will be rebuilt much differently.

Californian here. I think it’s entirely possible that the state turns deep red politically. There is already a lot of anger at the left simmering under the surface.

Indeed, the waste of resources is jaw dropping.

With the budget surplus they could have been burying power lines, but I guess there were more important priorities to squander the money.

What state buries high transmission lines? These fires aren't caused by residential lines, they're cause by long distance lines

Untrimmed trees are a source of fires. It's on the power company to maintain the trees. Trees falling on power lines are a huge problem.

This is about the dried out brush on the forest floor that catches fire easily, and needs to be better managed. This is not about the power company, it's about California's failed government.

It's probably both. Multiple fires burning, we will have to say if they can pinpoint the cause of each. They usually do, just takes time. 85% of fires are caused by humans.

Fires have been a problem in California for thousands of years. Even the native Americans used to do controlled burns!

Too bad Democrats don’t feel like doing controlled burns, or even clearing any of the fallen dead trees.

Once again, controlled burns have never stopped. Some funding was cut during the previous trump admin, but the burns have continued. Unfortunately this started as a small fire in a pac palisades back yard. You can’t do a controlled burn in a tightly packed suburban/semi-urban yard. That’s like saying they should do controlled burns around Bethesda row

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Places like Palisades High--this building burned down. It's not in a rural area, it's not wilderness; it's a suburban, densely buult and populated area. The winds have been something like 80 miles per hour! That is the reason for the quick spread of the fires.

I'm seeing the Palisades one started as a backyard fire. It's so nonsensical to see so much devastation over this + high winds.

I sincerely hope this wasn’t someone thinking that burn bans didn’t apply to them and their “well contained” fire pit, or improper disposal of a cigarette or a joint. It’s just horrific.

Not nonsensical though. Millions of acres have been burned in wildfires due to one person’s disregard or carelessness. If that’s what caused this, the only difference is that it’s in an urban area (which significantly changes the losses).

I hope they’re able to get the fires under control soon.

I saw someone on the news who was a mile from the fire origin and they were evacuated on NYE for a small fire at 3am. They said they’d heard fireworks. Sooo stupid! You should be jailed if that’s the cause.

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I mean, stuff happens and then you die

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 100% positive all the east coast jerks here wishing ill on Californians losing their homes are the same people who want compensation from the federal government when there is an inch of snow on the ground in DC.

DC folks aren’t wishing Californians ill will, or asking for $$ for an inch of snow. Take your ire elsewhere.

There have been several posters in this very thread doing exactly the bolded. At least the worst posts are getting deleted.

And yet, we have Californians and people all over this board. It hardly represents DC. It represents urban parents.

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This fire is in a natural area designed to burn every few years. 2 years of wetter than normal seasons have made the brush grow, and this year is abnormally dry. The area will burn and re-grow like this every few years. Of course climate change makes it worse and stupid people built in the fire zone.

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Inmates are a significant portion of the firefighters as well. It’s complicated.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article287294735.html

Other states that use inmates as firefighters:

Florida
Georgia
Indiana
Mississippi
Nevada
New Mexico
Oregon
Washington
Wyoming

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Forgot to add, if you can indeed afford it, it is the most beautiful state and these communities are the most expensive in the world for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 100% positive all the east coast jerks here wishing ill on Californians losing their homes are the same people who want compensation from the federal government when there is an inch of snow on the ground in DC.

DC folks aren’t wishing Californians ill will, or asking for $$ for an inch of snow. Take your ire elsewhere.

There have been several posters in this very thread doing exactly the bolded. At least the worst posts are getting deleted.

And yet, we have Californians and people all over this board. It hardly represents DC. It represents urban parents.

Earlier in this thread a DC poster was castigating a Californian who fled the fires for posting on a regional board. So it’s regional when you want to be jerks? Got it.