Palisades Fire - Los Angeles

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Anonymous wrote:Usually it is power lines that are downed by the wind storm and they spark on the ground near dry vegetation.

I'm in LA now, that's what normally causes a wildfire, but yes sometimes an idiot doesn't put out a camp fire properly or in other cases, starts one on purpose.

SoCal Edison was supposed to shut down power today. Who knows if they did it - this is an extremely wealthy area.

Do they do this to encourage people to leave or does doing so prevent additional fires?

I know very little about evacuating for fires or handling wildfires.

This is to prevent fires

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Just saw James Woods (actor) talking about his 94 year old neighbor with dementia. Apparently Woods called this man’s son to make sure the father was taken care of. Son lives in Mass and had no idea. Apparently the man had a caregiver who was told to leave the house by fire department and they would get him later. Caregiver just left the man then and called no one. Woods and another neighbor checked and the man was left by himself with dementia and the house burned down a hour later. Things like this happening all over. There are people with disability who may not know what to do. This situation is horrible. The redeeming thing of this story was neighbors helping each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw James Woods (actor) talking about his 94 year old neighbor with dementia. Apparently Woods called this man’s son to make sure the father was taken care of. Son lives in Mass and had no idea. Apparently the man had a caregiver who was told to leave the house by fire department and they would get him later. Caregiver just left the man then and called no one. Woods and another neighbor checked and the man was left by himself with dementia and the house burned down a hour later. Things like this happening all over. There are people with disability who may not know what to do. This situation is horrible. The redeeming thing of this story was neighbors helping each other.

I was impressed that Woods had the number of the elderly man's son and thus could check with him as to whether his dad was at home AND that he knew this man so well that he knew he would be in a small back room in the house. I don't know my neighbors that well and only have phone numbers for the ones next door.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw James Woods (actor) talking about his 94 year old neighbor with dementia. Apparently Woods called this man’s son to make sure the father was taken care of. Son lives in Mass and had no idea. Apparently the man had a caregiver who was told to leave the house by fire department and they would get him later. Caregiver just left the man then and called no one. Woods and another neighbor checked and the man was left by himself with dementia and the house burned down a hour later. Things like this happening all over. There are people with disability who may not know what to do. This situation is horrible. The redeeming thing of this story was neighbors helping each other.

I was impressed that Woods had the number of the elderly man's son and thus could check with him as to whether his dad was at home AND that he knew this man so well that he knew he would be in a small back room in the house. I don't know my neighbors that well and only have phone numbers for the ones next door.

It is kind of him. Neighbors in that area really are closely connected specifically for reasons like this. My relatives in the area have close connections to all their neighbors and they look out for each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw James Woods (actor) talking about his 94 year old neighbor with dementia. Apparently Woods called this man’s son to make sure the father was taken care of. Son lives in Mass and had no idea. Apparently the man had a caregiver who was told to leave the house by fire department and they would get him later. Caregiver just left the man then and called no one. Woods and another neighbor checked and the man was left by himself with dementia and the house burned down a hour later. Things like this happening all over. There are people with disability who may not know what to do. This situation is horrible. The redeeming thing of this story was neighbors helping each other.

I was impressed that Woods had the number of the elderly man's son and thus could check with him as to whether his dad was at home AND that he knew this man so well that he knew he would be in a small back room in the house. I don't know my neighbors that well and only have phone numbers for the ones next door.

It is kind of him. Neighbors in that area really are closely connected specifically for reasons like this. My relatives in the area have close connections to all their neighbors and they look out for each other.

Woods said the man is safe

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly a major insurance carrier dropped all fire coverage in the area several months ago. Many of these folks are losing everything. It’s a real tragedy.

This happened to a friend of a friend in Pasadena, and they sued the insurance company. I don't know if they lost their house or not, but the house is essentially toast if they can't insure it.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 100% positive all the east coast jerks here wishing ill on Californians losing their homes are the same people who want compensation from the federal government when there is an inch of snow on the ground in DC.

I’m an east coast jerk but I love CA. Easily the best state I’ve visited, and I’ve been to many. I would have loved to live there had circumstances allowed. Best of luck to everyone there.

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Anonymous wrote:Question from somebody who hasn't had to evacuate - when do you decide to go? My impulse would be to just leave now if I was anywhere near, but I can understand it requires a place to stay, missing work, etc. Do you wait for the order? or go sooner if you can?

I am pp who has been through it three times. We have a system that warns us to prepare to evacuate, and we all are watching location, wind speed/direction, and of course literally watching, communicating with neighbors, and paying attention to our guts. I want to be out before the order so that there is no chance of being stuck in gridlock.

Coordinating with neighbors is a must. We have some teens on the block that aren’t old enough to drive. There are plans A, B, and C for them to get out. We all have keys or codes for multiple neighbors and we know who has which pets. We have a couple of elderly neighbors that are pretty fit but we have designated people to make sure they are ok and help them if needed. We let each other know when we’re going out of town, etc.

Curious, PP: Why do you keep living in such a fire-prone area? Why not move away to a safer place?

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary fire in a dense area, but I understand Getty Villa is not on fire. Some trees on the property caught, is all.

Perhaps they should have taken down the overgrowth of trees?

Ding ding ding!

It's a direct result of the state's "environmental"policies. I guess wildfires are good for global warming.

You’re idiots. This is not true you asinine jackals.

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Anonymous wrote:Too many people living somewhere with not enough water. Same with CO and AZ too. The boom in Phoenix is absolutely shocking given the fact that the area is entirely dependent on water from elsewhere. People have no sense of self preservation.

As someone in those areas I think the same of people who live in hurricane and blizzard areas. Canceling school because of snow? Poor kids.

We get plenty of warning for blizzards all you have to do is stay inside the house

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Anonymous wrote:These homes start at $2.5M and go up rapidly from there. I bet most of these folks were self-insured.

This represents a huge, extremely wealthy chunk of the Los Angeles county tax base. Lots of families with young kids. It's as if a wild fire completely destroyed CCMD and adjacent neighborhoods in upper NW DC.

This disaster will upend Los Angeles's budget - lots of costs to clean up but also lots of these people will move away. It will only be partially rebuilt, likely with multi-family housing. The entire area will be rebuilt much differently.

Californian here. I think it’s entirely possible that the state turns deep red politically. There is already a lot of anger at the left simmering under the surface.

Indeed, the waste of resources is jaw dropping.

With the budget surplus they could have been burying power lines, but I guess there were more important priorities to squander the money.

What state buries high transmission lines? These fires aren't caused by residential lines, they're cause by long distance lines

Untrimmed trees are a source of fires. It's on the power company to maintain the trees. Trees falling on power lines are a huge problem.

This is about the dried out brush on the forest floor that catches fire easily, and needs to be better managed. This is not about the power company, it's about California's failed government.

You funnee, PP!
ha ha ha, No

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary fire in a dense area, but I understand Getty Villa is not on fire. Some trees on the property caught, is all.

Perhaps they should have taken down the overgrowth of trees?

Ding ding ding!

It's a direct result of the state's "environmental"policies. I guess wildfires are good for global warming.

You’re idiots. This is not true you asinine jackals.

+1 When did people get so ignorant and vocal about it?

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary fire in a dense area, but I understand Getty Villa is not on fire. Some trees on the property caught, is all.

Perhaps they should have taken down the overgrowth of trees?

MAGA a$$hat

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Anonymous wrote:These homes start at $2.5M and go up rapidly from there. I bet most of these folks were self-insured.

This represents a huge, extremely wealthy chunk of the Los Angeles county tax base. Lots of families with young kids. It's as if a wild fire completely destroyed CCMD and adjacent neighborhoods in upper NW DC.


This disaster will upend Los Angeles's budget - lots of costs to clean up but also lots of these people will move away. It will only be partially rebuilt, likely with multi-family housing. The entire area will be rebuilt much differently.

Californian here. I think it’s entirely possible that the state turns deep red politically. There is already a lot of anger at the left simmering under the surface.

Indeed, the waste of resources is jaw dropping.

With the budget surplus they could have been burying power lines, but I guess there were more important priorities to squander the money.

What state buries high transmission lines? These fires aren't caused by residential lines, they're cause by long distance lines

Untrimmed trees are a source of fires. It's on the power company to maintain the trees. Trees falling on power lines are a huge problem.

This is about the dried out brush on the forest floor that catches fire easily, and needs to be better managed. This is not about the power company, it's about California's failed government.

It's probably both. Multiple fires burning, we will have to say if they can pinpoint the cause of each. They usually do, just takes time. 85% of fires are caused by humans.

Fires have been a problem in California for thousands of years. Even the native Americans used to do controlled burns!

Too bad Democrats don’t feel like doing controlled burns, or even clearing any of the fallen dead trees.

Once again, controlled burns have never stopped. Some funding was cut during the previous trump admin, but the burns have continued. Unfortunately this started as a small fire in a pac palisades back yard. You can’t do a controlled burn in a tightly packed suburban/semi-urban yard. That’s like saying they should do controlled burns around Bethesda row

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Places like Palisades High--this building burned down. It's not in a rural area, it's not wilderness; it's a suburban, densely buult and populated area. The winds have been something like 80 miles per hour! That is the reason for the quick spread of the fires.

I'm seeing the Palisades one started as a backyard fire. It's so nonsensical to see so much devastation over this + high winds.

Well, it's a Santa Ana wind and they are dry and strong. People are warned to not have fires. That "red flag" warning has been in effect for a few days. In this kind of gale force wind, it spreads rapidly and takes on a life of its own. These winds create a fire risk every single year. The winds are not new and the disaster is not caused by politicians and it's debatable if climate change has increased fire risk. The lack of rain is an issue but these winds have always been a part of California. It's as nonsensical as a hurricane. There is only so much humans can do in a disaster.

It's hardly "debatable" if climate change has increased the risk of wildfires in California!!

Ask a climate scientist if there's any "debate" about this. It's fact. Climate change has warmed the planet. CA is hotter, and that increase in temperature caused by climate change has increased the risk of wildfires.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw James Woods (actor) talking about his 94 year old neighbor with dementia. Apparently Woods called this man’s son to make sure the father was taken care of. Son lives in Mass and had no idea. Apparently the man had a caregiver who was told to leave the house by fire department and they would get him later. Caregiver just left the man then and called no one. Woods and another neighbor checked and the man was left by himself with dementia and the house burned down a hour later. Things like this happening all over. There are people with disability who may not know what to do. This situation is horrible. The redeeming thing of this story was neighbors helping each other.

I was impressed that Woods had the number of the elderly man's son and thus could check with him as to whether his dad was at home AND that he knew this man so well that he knew he would be in a small back room in the house. I don't know my neighbors that well and only have phone numbers for the ones next door.

It is kind of him. Neighbors in that area really are closely connected specifically for reasons like this. My relatives in the area have close connections to all their neighbors and they look out for each other.

Woods said the man is safe

Who knew James Woods had a decent bone in his body? Glad his neighbor is safe.