Distraught about college son who’s happy about Trump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, you should be proud of your son that he could make his own choices after seeing what is going on in this country. Impression of democrats with young people is not got good and my daughter(we are a minority) is same. Democrats need to do a lot more than just blowing smoke.

This is a good post. I don't think democrats understand this and care about us. They lost my vote forvery at defund the police.

So you voted for the guy who didn’t care that his supporters were beating up police. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Woke is like re-tar-ded

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just be proud that you raised an intelligent, independent, young man who sees that the progressive movement has gone off the deep end. No doubt equally embarrassed to speak to his friends about his whacko parents.

Recognizing one wrong doesn't make it "okay" to drift towards another wrong. There are no homes in modern day major political parties for young people who want to make the world a better place. Surely, you are smart enough to realize this.

Young people nowadays barely remember Obama.
They don't remember the 2008 financial crash and how Obama pulled us away from the brink of a global depression.
They don't have any Republicans top compare Trump to. As far as they are concerned the choices are wokeness and MAGA. And they are increasingly choosing MAGA over Wokeness.
Let that sink in. Your woke crap is worse than MAGA to someone new on the scene.

Well said

[Anonymous]

OP, sit down and have a long conversation with him, but don’t catch him off-guard. Tell him that you are interested in hearing what it is he likes about Trump, and ask when would be a good time to talk. He will likely show you tiktoks. Once you see how incredibly convincing these tiktoks are, you will begin to understand how he got pulled in. Calmly and explicitly, explain to him the inaccuracies, and back it up with evidence. Real evidence, not biased sources. For example, if he claims Project 2025 isn’t that bad, pull up the actual document. No need for secondary sources here. It is all spelled out. If he says the Trump indictments are dems weaponizing the justice system, pull up the actual 34 documents. Again, straight to the primary sources. It won’t happen overnight, but teaching him to use reliable sources to become informed is the most helpful thing you can do for him. Give him time. Keep having conversations. Good luck, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would be upset too. If my son backed a misogynist racist narcissist pig like Trump.

Fortunately, your cats can't vote -- yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, sit down and have a long conversation with him, but don’t catch him off-guard. Tell him that you are interested in hearing what it is he likes about Trump, and ask when would be a good time to talk. He will likely show you tiktoks. Once you see how incredibly convincing these tiktoks are, you will begin to understand how he got pulled in. Calmly and explicitly, explain to him the inaccuracies, and back it up with evidence. Real evidence, not biased sources. For example, if he claims Project 2025 isn’t that bad, pull up the actual document. No need for secondary sources here. It is all spelled out. If he says the Trump indictments are dems weaponizing the justice system, pull up the actual 34 documents. Again, straight to the primary sources. It won’t happen overnight, but teaching him to use reliable sources to become informed is the most helpful thing you can do for him. Give him time. Keep having conversations. Good luck, OP.

Or just give it time and eventually one of our two parties will put forth a legitimate president and our youth will be like OMG, this is what presidential is! Remember, many of these young people are too young to remember anything before the Trump/Biden mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, sit down and have a long conversation with him, but don’t catch him off-guard. Tell him that you are interested in hearing what it is he likes about Trump, and ask when would be a good time to talk. He will likely show you tiktoks. Once you see how incredibly convincing these tiktoks are, you will begin to understand how he got pulled in. Calmly and explicitly, explain to him the inaccuracies, and back it up with evidence. Real evidence, not biased sources. For example, if he claims Project 2025 isn’t that bad, pull up the actual document. No need for secondary sources here. It is all spelled out. If he says the Trump indictments are dems weaponizing the justice system, pull up the actual 34 documents. Again, straight to the primary sources. It won’t happen overnight, but teaching him to use reliable sources to become informed is the most helpful thing you can do for him. Give him time. Keep having conversations. Good luck, OP.

This will not reliably work.
It depends on the premise that you right and they are wrong.
Reasonable people could reach a different conclusions.

We have done such a good job of tearing down the legitimacy of institutions whenever they do something we don't like that there are no reliable sources anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are solid Democrats with progressive values. Upper middle class white family. Distraught and embarrassed that our college-age son is now a Republican. Too ashamed to tell people we know in real life. Heartsick that we raised a child who is happy about Trump being elected. He says a big reason is campus DEI and wokeness, which he feels has gone too far. Anyone else in this situation? How are you handling it? Any advice?

The fact that he rejected you probably should indicate that he is distraught and embarrassed that that his upper middle class white family are Democrats. That he's too ashamed to tell people he knows in real life. Heartsick that he was raised by sanctimonious close- minded ideologues who are happy about Biden being elected and would feel this way about their child. Reading this post, I would say he would be right. You seem like a miserable parent to grow up with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, sit down and have a long conversation with him, but don’t catch him off-guard. Tell him that you are interested in hearing what it is he likes about Trump, and ask when would be a good time to talk. He will likely show you tiktoks. Once you see how incredibly convincing these tiktoks are, you will begin to understand how he got pulled in. Calmly and explicitly, explain to him the inaccuracies, and back it up with evidence. Real evidence, not biased sources. For example, if he claims Project 2025 isn’t that bad, pull up the actual document. No need for secondary sources here. It is all spelled out. If he says the Trump indictments are dems weaponizing the justice system, pull up the actual 34 documents. Again, straight to the primary sources. It won’t happen overnight, but teaching him to use reliable sources to become informed is the most helpful thing you can do for him. Give him time. Keep having conversations. Good luck, OP.

Your own bias is showing. As just one example, do you even know what the 34 indictments are for?
I bet you can’t explain it in a way that would not expose that the system was indeed weaponized by a corrupt prosecutor in a heavily Democratic jurisdiction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just be proud that you raised an intelligent, independent, young man who sees that the progressive movement has gone off the deep end. No doubt equally embarrassed to speak to his friends about his whacko parents.

Recognizing one wrong doesn't make it "okay" to drift towards another wrong. There are no homes in modern day major political parties for young people who want to make the world a better place. Surely, you are smart enough to realize this.

Young people nowadays barely remember Obama.
They don't remember the 2008 financial crash and how Obama pulled us away from the brink of a global depression.
They don't have any Republicans top compare Trump to. As far as they are concerned the choices are wokeness and MAGA. And they are increasingly choosing MAGA over Wokeness.
Let that sink in. Your woke crap is worse than MAGA to someone new on the scene.

Well said

Idiot Obama used the financial crisis, something akin to a heart attack as an excuse to give the country a massive does of chemo (health care reform). If that clown had any experience, he would have righted the economic ship and then pursued health care changes. But, alas, Obama was words not actual knowledge and instead of being thoughtful based on a worthwhile lived experience, he botched everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, you should be proud of your son that he could make his own choices after seeing what is going on in this country. Impression of democrats with young people is not got good and my daughter(we are a minority) is same. Democrats need to do a lot more than just blowing smoke.

This is a good post. I don't think democrats understand this and care about us. They lost my vote forvery at defund the police.

So you voted for the guy who didn’t care that his supporters were beating up police. Got it.

Make it make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that you should embrace diversity and get over it. Your children are individuals and they are allowed to have different opinions.

Too bad most current Democrats are control freak cultists: Shut-up and obey, or we don’t like you anymore.

Shame on you, op.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that you should embrace diversity and get over it. Your children are individuals and they are allowed to have different opinions.

Too bad most current Democrats are control freak cultists: Shut-up and obey, or we don’t like you anymore.

Shame on you, op.

You can say the same about maga...say merry christmas or else!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that you should embrace diversity and get over it. Your children are individuals and they are allowed to have different opinions.

Too bad most current Democrats are control freak cultists: Shut-up and obey, or we don’t like you anymore.

Shame on you, op.

You can say the same about maga...say merry christmas or else!

Liar, yet again. President Trump has a Jewish daughter. Your lying is boring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, sit down and have a long conversation with him, but don’t catch him off-guard. Tell him that you are interested in hearing what it is he likes about Trump, and ask when would be a good time to talk. He will likely show you tiktoks. Once you see how incredibly convincing these tiktoks are, you will begin to understand how he got pulled in. Calmly and explicitly, explain to him the inaccuracies, and back it up with evidence. Real evidence, not biased sources. For example, if he claims Project 2025 isn’t that bad, pull up the actual document. No need for secondary sources here. It is all spelled out. If he says the Trump indictments are dems weaponizing the justice system, pull up the actual 34 documents. Again, straight to the primary sources. It won’t happen overnight, but teaching him to use reliable sources to become informed is the most helpful thing you can do for him. Give him time. Keep having conversations. Good luck, OP.

Your own bias is showing. As just one example, do you even know what the 34 indictments are for?
I bet you can’t explain it in a way that would not expose that the system was indeed weaponized by a corrupt prosecutor in a heavily Democratic jurisdiction.

I bet you didn’t grow up in NYC in the 1980s, 90s. You would know that Trump is a con man. And a failed businessman. Sad.