Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights

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Anonymous wrote:The reason I cannot get on board with the Dem position in this issue is their complete denial that any fetus in any stage is a living being with rights. A fetus is not simply tissue in the mother’s body.

I believe in bodily autonomy, and that no woman should be forced to remain pregnant. However, no one has the right to demand that a viable fetus be killed. But we don’t see the left advocating for the right to early inductions or C sections resulting in live births for women who do not wish to or cannot remain pregnant. Why is that? Because the entire point of many of these procedures is that the fetus is killed and ceases to exist. I’m talking about “medical” abortions where the fetus is being killed due to being diagnosed with a disability or hereditary disease. For those of us who don’t believe in euthanasia ESPECIALLY for those who cannot choose it, this is not materially different from infanticide.
Before you start lecturing me, I know firsthand the burden that families experience when they are faced with giving birth to a baby who will not survive more than a few hours or days, and I am fully aware of the enormous burden that families with disabled children experience. IMO these burdens are made worse by the fact that our society devalues individuals with disabilities and physical differences, so fewer are born (because they are aborted), so they are less “seen” in society, and therefore more stigmatized and less supported since most people are not impacted firsthand.

I hear you use the word “viable”. Yes that viability happens around 25 weeks and is basically the time frame that RvW allowed abortion restrictions to begin. Most Americans agree that is reasonable.

I am a person with a severe physical disability from birth and would like you to know I have no problem with someone deciding not to bring a child with severe abnormalities into the world. I do not judge them. I might have made the same decision myself if faced with a fetus with severe, cruel abnormalities whose life would be painful and short as well as incredibly stressful and devastatingly expensive for their families.

Start advocating for completely free medical care and living circumstances for the disabled and then we can talk more about how society values or devalues people like me.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion is the top of the iceberg, the tip of the iceberg of MAGA hatred of humanity. It's not a "single issue"

Killing your own child shows love for humanity how?

A fetus isn't a child. Fetch isn't going to happen here. If you believe a fetus is a child, then don't have an abortion yourself. Do not tell me r anyone else what we should do. It is none of your business.

I delivered twins during my 20th week of pregnancy. Don't tell me that at 20 weeks a baby is a "bag of cells." They were tiny little human beings. If you held your children in your arms and watched them die like I did, you would support restrictions on abortion to the first trimester. I don't know the numbers, but I believe a large number of abortions that happen in the second trimester is due to the advent of advanced genetic testing that takes place 18 weeks. To me, it is horrifying that people will terminate pregnancies due to genetic abnormalities like Downs Syndrome, or even the wrong sex.

Agree, as someone who generally supports a right to abortion in the first trimester. It is horrifying that people terminate at twenty weeks.

I read stuff like the below and I want nothing to do with any political party that thinks this is okay:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13988521/I-caught-surrogate-drinking-alcohol-abort-baby.html

I am so sorry for your loss.

People who support second or third term abortions should read about what the babies endure during the abortion process. Ripping off limbs is horrific especially considering they start to feel pain about 13 weeks gestation. I've listened to interviews with abortion providers and it makes me sick what is happening. There is a reason a majority of ob/gyns will not perform abortions.

Yes, it is horrific and the babies don’t receive pain medication because that would humanize them.

You would force a 12 year old baby to deliver her rapist’s child. Sicko.

I’d say the one advocating for babies to be dismembered without pain medication is the sicko.

Have you ever seen a 12 year old baby deliver a baby? It’s definitely ripping her body apart. The 12 year olds.

12 year olds give birth around the world everyday and are not ripped apart.

Please post that message everywhere you can.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion is the top of the iceberg, the tip of the iceberg of MAGA hatred of humanity. It's not a "single issue"

Killing your own child shows love for humanity how?

A fetus isn't a child. Fetch isn't going to happen here. If you believe a fetus is a child, then don't have an abortion yourself. Do not tell me r anyone else what we should do. It is none of your business.

I delivered twins during my 20th week of pregnancy. Don't tell me that at 20 weeks a baby is a "bag of cells." They were tiny little human beings. If you held your children in your arms and watched them die like I did, you would support restrictions on abortion to the first trimester. I don't know the numbers, but I believe a large number of abortions that happen in the second trimester is due to the advent of advanced genetic testing that takes place 18 weeks. To me, it is horrifying that people will terminate pregnancies due to genetic abnormalities like Downs Syndrome, or even the wrong sex.

Then don’t you terminate it. I would terminate a genetically abnormal fetus with zero hesitation. I have a dear friend who has a child with a severe genetic disorder that’s rare enough to sneak through all genetic testing. My friend, living with that child, is 200% clear she’d opt to terminate if she knew ahead of time.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion is the top of the iceberg, the tip of the iceberg of MAGA hatred of humanity. It's not a "single issue"

Killing your own child shows love for humanity how?

A fetus isn't a child. Fetch isn't going to happen here. If you believe a fetus is a child, then don't have an abortion yourself. Do not tell me r anyone else what we should do. It is none of your business.

I delivered twins during my 20th week of pregnancy. Don't tell me that at 20 weeks a baby is a "bag of cells." They were tiny little human beings. If you held your children in your arms and watched them die like I did, you would support restrictions on abortion to the first trimester. I don't know the numbers, but I believe a large number of abortions that happen in the second trimester is due to the advent of advanced genetic testing that takes place 18 weeks. To me, it is horrifying that people will terminate pregnancies due to genetic abnormalities like Downs Syndrome, or even the wrong sex.

Agree, as someone who generally supports a right to abortion in the first trimester. It is horrifying that people terminate at twenty weeks.

I read stuff like the below and I want nothing to do with any political party that thinks this is okay:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13988521/I-caught-surrogate-drinking-alcohol-abort-baby.html

I am so sorry for your loss.

People who support second or third term abortions should read about what the babies endure during the abortion process. Ripping off limbs is horrific especially considering they start to feel pain about 13 weeks gestation. I've listened to interviews with abortion providers and it makes me sick what is happening. There is a reason a majority of ob/gyns will not perform abortions.

They don’t care. They are invested in pretending a fetus is not alive nor a human, and magically appears in a woman’s uterus because republicans cast an evil pregnancy spell across America every day and force women to become pregnant. Or something like that. Who really knows, they are deeply committed to denial and blaming other people for their unwanted pregnancies. Their own children are disposable and unworthy of love.

Like many women, I have had a miscarriage. Don't get me wrong, the experience was incredibly sad. But there was no death certificate. No funeral. That's because our fetus wasn't a person yet. I was fortunate enough that my miscarriage did not come with any major complications, but it gets dangerous when hospitals refuse to treat miscarrying women because they can't distinguish between miscarriages and abortions.

Women are so insistent on demanding elective abortion that women who have legitimate health issues are suffering.

We aren’t pretending abortion should be safe, legal, and rare anymore: it’s full on killing babies and shouting about it.

Women and girls who are raped, victims of incest, and experience health and medical issues should be able to choose what’s best for them in their horrific and cruel circumstances.

Women who want to cosplay as victims because they can get pregnant and aren’t willing to take care of their own child, aren’t the same as raped and medically urgent/emergent pregnant women suffering health problems. Using abused and sick women to demand abortion rights is the ultimate betrayal of your fellow women.

Are you asking women to prove that they were raped so that they can make that choice?

Do you think women and girls should experience rape and forced pregnancy and no one should call the police and report the rape so the rapist can be arrested and jailed?

Why are democrats so creepy? Yes: women and girls who are raped should report their rape no matter what the circumstances. That’s not even a debate.

Women and girls who are raped and impregnated by their rapists should report their rape and their forced pregnancy as the result of rape. Their rapist should be arrested and charged and imprisoned.

Do you think women and girls should not report their rapes? Why not? Their rapists should be allowed to rape them and free to rape at will again and again? Maybe their rapist can rape multiple girls and women and nobody will do anything to stop them, that’s what you are advocating?

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Anonymous wrote:The reason I cannot get on board with the Dem position in this issue is their complete denial that any fetus in any stage is a living being with rights. A fetus is not simply tissue in the mother’s body.

I believe in bodily autonomy, and that no woman should be forced to remain pregnant. However, no one has the right to demand that a viable fetus be killed. But we don’t see the left advocating for the right to early inductions or C sections resulting in live births for women who do not wish to or cannot remain pregnant. Why is that? Because the entire point of many of these procedures is that the fetus is killed and ceases to exist. I’m talking about “medical” abortions where the fetus is being killed due to being diagnosed with a disability or hereditary disease. For those of us who don’t believe in euthanasia ESPECIALLY for those who cannot choose it, this is not materially different from infanticide.
Before you start lecturing me, I know firsthand the burden that families experience when they are faced with giving birth to a baby who will not survive more than a few hours or days, and I am fully aware of the enormous burden that families with disabled children experience. IMO these burdens are made worse by the fact that our society devalues individuals with disabilities and physical differences, so fewer are born (because they are aborted), so they are less “seen” in society, and therefore more stigmatized and less supported since most people are not impacted firsthand.

I hear you use the word “viable”. Yes that viability happens around 25 weeks and is basically the time frame that RvW allowed abortion restrictions to begin. Most Americans agree that is reasonable.

I am a person with a severe physical disability from birth and would like you to know I have no problem with someone deciding not to bring a child with severe abnormalities into the world. I do not judge them. I might have made the same decision myself if faced with a fetus with severe, cruel abnormalities whose life would be painful and short as well as incredibly stressful and devastatingly expensive for their families.

Start advocating for completely free medical care and living circumstances for the disabled and then we can talk more about how society values or devalues people like me.

Are you an advocate for physician assisted suicide?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion is the top of the iceberg, the tip of the iceberg of MAGA hatred of humanity. It's not a "single issue"

Killing your own child shows love for humanity how?

A fetus isn't a child. Fetch isn't going to happen here. If you believe a fetus is a child, then don't have an abortion yourself. Do not tell me r anyone else what we should do. It is none of your business.

I delivered twins during my 20th week of pregnancy. Don't tell me that at 20 weeks a baby is a "bag of cells." They were tiny little human beings. If you held your children in your arms and watched them die like I did, you would support restrictions on abortion to the first trimester. I don't know the numbers, but I believe a large number of abortions that happen in the second trimester is due to the advent of advanced genetic testing that takes place 18 weeks. To me, it is horrifying that people will terminate pregnancies due to genetic abnormalities like Downs Syndrome, or even the wrong sex.

Agree, as someone who generally supports a right to abortion in the first trimester. It is horrifying that people terminate at twenty weeks.

I read stuff like the below and I want nothing to do with any political party that thinks this is okay:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13988521/I-caught-surrogate-drinking-alcohol-abort-baby.html

I am so sorry for your loss.

People who support second or third term abortions should read about what the babies endure during the abortion process. Ripping off limbs is horrific especially considering they start to feel pain about 13 weeks gestation. I've listened to interviews with abortion providers and it makes me sick what is happening. There is a reason a majority of ob/gyns will not perform abortions.

Yes, it is horrific and the babies don’t receive pain medication because that would humanize them.

You would force a 12 year old baby to deliver her rapist’s child. Sicko.

I’d say the one advocating for babies to be dismembered without pain medication is the sicko.

Have you ever seen a 12 year old baby deliver a baby? It’s definitely ripping her body apart. The 12 year olds.

12 year olds give birth around the world everyday and are not ripped apart.

Please post that message everywhere you can.

Please look up worldwide birth statistics.

Please stop pretending that adult women have the right to elective abortion because they are raped 12 year olds being torn apart by the birthing process, when actually they just don’t want to take care of their child and would rather kill him or her instead.

Riding the painful coattails of actual victimized children is amoral and cruel.

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Anonymous wrote:The reason I cannot get on board with the Dem position in this issue is their complete denial that any fetus in any stage is a living being with rights. A fetus is not simply tissue in the mother’s body.

I believe in bodily autonomy, and that no woman should be forced to remain pregnant. However, no one has the right to demand that a viable fetus be killed. But we don’t see the left advocating for the right to early inductions or C sections resulting in live births for women who do not wish to or cannot remain pregnant. Why is that? Because the entire point of many of these procedures is that the fetus is killed and ceases to exist. I’m talking about “medical” abortions where the fetus is being killed due to being diagnosed with a disability or hereditary disease. For those of us who don’t believe in euthanasia ESPECIALLY for those who cannot choose it, this is not materially different from infanticide.
Before you start lecturing me, I know firsthand the burden that families experience when they are faced with giving birth to a baby who will not survive more than a few hours or days, and I am fully aware of the enormous burden that families with disabled children experience. IMO these burdens are made worse by the fact that our society devalues individuals with disabilities and physical differences, so fewer are born (because they are aborted), so they are less “seen” in society, and therefore more stigmatized and less supported since most people are not impacted firsthand.

I hear you use the word “viable”. Yes that viability happens around 25 weeks and is basically the time frame that RvW allowed abortion restrictions to begin. Most Americans agree that is reasonable.

I am a person with a severe physical disability from birth and would like you to know I have no problem with someone deciding not to bring a child with severe abnormalities into the world. I do not judge them. I might have made the same decision myself if faced with a fetus with severe, cruel abnormalities whose life would be painful and short as well as incredibly stressful and devastatingly expensive for their families.

Start advocating for completely free medical care and living circumstances for the disabled and then we can talk more about how society values or devalues people like me.

What is your severe physical disability?

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Anonymous wrote:The reason I cannot get on board with the Dem position in this issue is their complete denial that any fetus in any stage is a living being with rights. A fetus is not simply tissue in the mother’s body.

I believe in bodily autonomy, and that no woman should be forced to remain pregnant. However, no one has the right to demand that a viable fetus be killed. But we don’t see the left advocating for the right to early inductions or C sections resulting in live births for women who do not wish to or cannot remain pregnant. Why is that? Because the entire point of many of these procedures is that the fetus is killed and ceases to exist. I’m talking about “medical” abortions where the fetus is being killed due to being diagnosed with a disability or hereditary disease. For those of us who don’t believe in euthanasia ESPECIALLY for those who cannot choose it, this is not materially different from infanticide.
Before you start lecturing me, I know firsthand the burden that families experience when they are faced with giving birth to a baby who will not survive more than a few hours or days, and I am fully aware of the enormous burden that families with disabled children experience. IMO these burdens are made worse by the fact that our society devalues individuals with disabilities and physical differences, so fewer are born (because they are aborted), so they are less “seen” in society, and therefore more stigmatized and less supported since most people are not impacted firsthand.

I hear you use the word “viable”. Yes that viability happens around 25 weeks and is basically the time frame that RvW allowed abortion restrictions to begin. Most Americans agree that is reasonable.

I am a person with a severe physical disability from birth and would like you to know I have no problem with someone deciding not to bring a child with severe abnormalities into the world. I do not judge them. I might have made the same decision myself if faced with a fetus with severe, cruel abnormalities whose life would be painful and short as well as incredibly stressful and devastatingly expensive for their families.

Start advocating for completely free medical care and living circumstances for the disabled and then we can talk more about how society values or devalues people like me.

Are you an advocate for physician assisted suicide?

Not an advocate but would not judge someone who at the end of their life decides they don’t want to go through the final months of pain, suffering, and degradation and asks for physician assisted, humane and painfree termination of their life. I think a person should have that right.

I mean why do we treat animals with such humanity, not allowing them to suffer at the end of their lives, but deny that choice for humans?

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Anonymous wrote:The reason I cannot get on board with the Dem position in this issue is their complete denial that any fetus in any stage is a living being with rights. A fetus is not simply tissue in the mother’s body.

I believe in bodily autonomy, and that no woman should be forced to remain pregnant. However, no one has the right to demand that a viable fetus be killed. But we don’t see the left advocating for the right to early inductions or C sections resulting in live births for women who do not wish to or cannot remain pregnant. Why is that? Because the entire point of many of these procedures is that the fetus is killed and ceases to exist. I’m talking about “medical” abortions where the fetus is being killed due to being diagnosed with a disability or hereditary disease. For those of us who don’t believe in euthanasia ESPECIALLY for those who cannot choose it, this is not materially different from infanticide.
Before you start lecturing me, I know firsthand the burden that families experience when they are faced with giving birth to a baby who will not survive more than a few hours or days, and I am fully aware of the enormous burden that families with disabled children experience. IMO these burdens are made worse by the fact that our society devalues individuals with disabilities and physical differences, so fewer are born (because they are aborted), so they are less “seen” in society, and therefore more stigmatized and less supported since most people are not impacted firsthand.

I hear you use the word “viable”. Yes that viability happens around 25 weeks and is basically the time frame that RvW allowed abortion restrictions to begin. Most Americans agree that is reasonable.

I am a person with a severe physical disability from birth and would like you to know I have no problem with someone deciding not to bring a child with severe abnormalities into the world. I do not judge them. I might have made the same decision myself if faced with a fetus with severe, cruel abnormalities whose life would be painful and short as well as incredibly stressful and devastatingly expensive for their families.

Start advocating for completely free medical care and living circumstances for the disabled and then we can talk more about how society values or devalues people like me.

What is your severe physical disability?

It’s none of your business.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion is the top of the iceberg, the tip of the iceberg of MAGA hatred of humanity. It's not a "single issue"

Killing your own child shows love for humanity how?

A fetus isn't a child. Fetch isn't going to happen here. If you believe a fetus is a child, then don't have an abortion yourself. Do not tell me r anyone else what we should do. It is none of your business.

I delivered twins during my 20th week of pregnancy. Don't tell me that at 20 weeks a baby is a "bag of cells." They were tiny little human beings. If you held your children in your arms and watched them die like I did, you would support restrictions on abortion to the first trimester. I don't know the numbers, but I believe a large number of abortions that happen in the second trimester is due to the advent of advanced genetic testing that takes place 18 weeks. To me, it is horrifying that people will terminate pregnancies due to genetic abnormalities like Downs Syndrome, or even the wrong sex.

Agree, as someone who generally supports a right to abortion in the first trimester. It is horrifying that people terminate at twenty weeks.

I read stuff like the below and I want nothing to do with any political party that thinks this is okay:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13988521/I-caught-surrogate-drinking-alcohol-abort-baby.html

I am so sorry for your loss.

People who support second or third term abortions should read about what the babies endure during the abortion process. Ripping off limbs is horrific especially considering they start to feel pain about 13 weeks gestation. I've listened to interviews with abortion providers and it makes me sick what is happening. There is a reason a majority of ob/gyns will not perform abortions.

Yes, it is horrific and the babies don’t receive pain medication because that would humanize them.

You would force a 12 year old baby to deliver her rapist’s child. Sicko.

I’d say the one advocating for babies to be dismembered without pain medication is the sicko.

Have you ever seen a 12 year old baby deliver a baby? It’s definitely ripping her body apart. The 12 year olds.

12 year olds give birth around the world everyday and are not ripped apart.

Please post that message everywhere you can.

Please look up worldwide birth statistics.

Please stop pretending that adult women have the right to elective abortion because they are raped 12 year olds being torn apart by the birthing process, when actually they just don’t want to take care of their child and would rather kill him or her instead.

Riding the painful coattails of actual victimized children is amoral and cruel.

Please keep spreading this message about 12 year olds being able to give birth just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:The reason I cannot get on board with the Dem position in this issue is their complete denial that any fetus in any stage is a living being with rights. A fetus is not simply tissue in the mother’s body.

I believe in bodily autonomy, and that no woman should be forced to remain pregnant. However, no one has the right to demand that a viable fetus be killed. But we don’t see the left advocating for the right to early inductions or C sections resulting in live births for women who do not wish to or cannot remain pregnant. Why is that? Because the entire point of many of these procedures is that the fetus is killed and ceases to exist. I’m talking about “medical” abortions where the fetus is being killed due to being diagnosed with a disability or hereditary disease. For those of us who don’t believe in euthanasia ESPECIALLY for those who cannot choose it, this is not materially different from infanticide.
Before you start lecturing me, I know firsthand the burden that families experience when they are faced with giving birth to a baby who will not survive more than a few hours or days, and I am fully aware of the enormous burden that families with disabled children experience. IMO these burdens are made worse by the fact that our society devalues individuals with disabilities and physical differences, so fewer are born (because they are aborted), so they are less “seen” in society, and therefore more stigmatized and less supported since most people are not impacted firsthand.

I hear you use the word “viable”. Yes that viability happens around 25 weeks and is basically the time frame that RvW allowed abortion restrictions to begin. Most Americans agree that is reasonable.

I am a person with a severe physical disability from birth and would like you to know I have no problem with someone deciding not to bring a child with severe abnormalities into the world. I do not judge them. I might have made the same decision myself if faced with a fetus with severe, cruel abnormalities whose life would be painful and short as well as incredibly stressful and devastatingly expensive for their families.

Start advocating for completely free medical care and living circumstances for the disabled and then we can talk more about how society values or devalues people like me.

What is your severe physical disability?

It’s none of your business.

And the lives of babies with severe physical disabilities are none of your business. You have no business advocating for their deaths. If you have a severe physical disability and are posting on dcum, why do babies born with severe physical disabilities have to be killed?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion is the top of the iceberg, the tip of the iceberg of MAGA hatred of humanity. It's not a "single issue"

Killing your own child shows love for humanity how?

A fetus isn't a child. Fetch isn't going to happen here. If you believe a fetus is a child, then don't have an abortion yourself. Do not tell me r anyone else what we should do. It is none of your business.

I delivered twins during my 20th week of pregnancy. Don't tell me that at 20 weeks a baby is a "bag of cells." They were tiny little human beings. If you held your children in your arms and watched them die like I did, you would support restrictions on abortion to the first trimester. I don't know the numbers, but I believe a large number of abortions that happen in the second trimester is due to the advent of advanced genetic testing that takes place 18 weeks. To me, it is horrifying that people will terminate pregnancies due to genetic abnormalities like Downs Syndrome, or even the wrong sex.

Agree, as someone who generally supports a right to abortion in the first trimester. It is horrifying that people terminate at twenty weeks.

I read stuff like the below and I want nothing to do with any political party that thinks this is okay:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13988521/I-caught-surrogate-drinking-alcohol-abort-baby.html

I am so sorry for your loss.

People who support second or third term abortions should read about what the babies endure during the abortion process. Ripping off limbs is horrific especially considering they start to feel pain about 13 weeks gestation. I've listened to interviews with abortion providers and it makes me sick what is happening. There is a reason a majority of ob/gyns will not perform abortions.

Yes, it is horrific and the babies don’t receive pain medication because that would humanize them.

You would force a 12 year old baby to deliver her rapist’s child. Sicko.

I’d say the one advocating for babies to be dismembered without pain medication is the sicko.

Have you ever seen a 12 year old baby deliver a baby? It’s definitely ripping her body apart. The 12 year olds.

12 year olds give birth around the world everyday and are not ripped apart.

Please post that message everywhere you can.

Please look up worldwide birth statistics.

Please stop pretending that adult women have the right to elective abortion because they are raped 12 year olds being torn apart by the birthing process, when actually they just don’t want to take care of their child and would rather kill him or her instead.

Riding the painful coattails of actual victimized children is amoral and cruel.

The unwanted children you want to force women to give birth to are more likely to be victimized.

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I had a postpartum patient who had delivered a term baby with trisomy 18. They were a religious couple and chose not to abort the pregnancy. They were hoping the baby would be born alive but sadly it was a stillbirth. The love these parents had for their baby despite the genetic abnormality was beautiful. Various family members came to visit and hold the baby while celebrating her very short life. We took footprints and collected other things for the parents to remember her by. After about a day the funeral home came and carried away the baby in a basket. It reminded me of an old Oprah episode about a baby born with the same condition. They celebrated every day the baby lived until he passed (the video is linked below). I feel horrible for parents in these situations but can't help and think about how many babies with defects have been aborted in cruel manner and discarded as if their life didn't mean anything.

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https://youtu.be/ilQh2Q3OVwg?si=0QxWOl8yv6R3Z4vl

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion is the top of the iceberg, the tip of the iceberg of MAGA hatred of humanity. It's not a "single issue"

Killing your own child shows love for humanity how?

A fetus isn't a child. Fetch isn't going to happen here. If you believe a fetus is a child, then don't have an abortion yourself. Do not tell me r anyone else what we should do. It is none of your business.

I delivered twins during my 20th week of pregnancy. Don't tell me that at 20 weeks a baby is a "bag of cells." They were tiny little human beings. If you held your children in your arms and watched them die like I did, you would support restrictions on abortion to the first trimester. I don't know the numbers, but I believe a large number of abortions that happen in the second trimester is due to the advent of advanced genetic testing that takes place 18 weeks. To me, it is horrifying that people will terminate pregnancies due to genetic abnormalities like Downs Syndrome, or even the wrong sex.

Agree, as someone who generally supports a right to abortion in the first trimester. It is horrifying that people terminate at twenty weeks.

I read stuff like the below and I want nothing to do with any political party that thinks this is okay:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13988521/I-caught-surrogate-drinking-alcohol-abort-baby.html

I am so sorry for your loss.

People who support second or third term abortions should read about what the babies endure during the abortion process. Ripping off limbs is horrific especially considering they start to feel pain about 13 weeks gestation. I've listened to interviews with abortion providers and it makes me sick what is happening. There is a reason a majority of ob/gyns will not perform abortions.

Yes, it is horrific and the babies don’t receive pain medication because that would humanize them.

You would force a 12 year old baby to deliver her rapist’s child. Sicko.

I’d say the one advocating for babies to be dismembered without pain medication is the sicko.

Have you ever seen a 12 year old baby deliver a baby? It’s definitely ripping her body apart. The 12 year olds.

12 year olds give birth around the world everyday and are not ripped apart.

Please post that message everywhere you can.

Please look up worldwide birth statistics.

Please stop pretending that adult women have the right to elective abortion because they are raped 12 year olds being torn apart by the birthing process, when actually they just don’t want to take care of their child and would rather kill him or her instead.

Riding the painful coattails of actual victimized children is amoral and cruel.

Please keep spreading this message about 12 year olds being able to give birth just fine.

There’s no message that 12 year olds are able to give birth “fine.”


The message is that adult American women who want to have access to elective abortion and kill their own children for convenience are not raped 12 year old girls, despite their insistence that they are the same. They are not.

Using a raped 12 year old as an example of why you should be able to kill your child is the height of disgusting arrogance and gross political usage of a abused/victimized child for personal convenience.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion is the top of the iceberg, the tip of the iceberg of MAGA hatred of humanity. It's not a "single issue"

Killing your own child shows love for humanity how?

A fetus isn't a child. Fetch isn't going to happen here. If you believe a fetus is a child, then don't have an abortion yourself. Do not tell me r anyone else what we should do. It is none of your business.

I delivered twins during my 20th week of pregnancy. Don't tell me that at 20 weeks a baby is a "bag of cells." They were tiny little human beings. If you held your children in your arms and watched them die like I did, you would support restrictions on abortion to the first trimester. I don't know the numbers, but I believe a large number of abortions that happen in the second trimester is due to the advent of advanced genetic testing that takes place 18 weeks. To me, it is horrifying that people will terminate pregnancies due to genetic abnormalities like Downs Syndrome, or even the wrong sex.

Then don’t you terminate it. I would terminate a genetically abnormal fetus with zero hesitation. I have a dear friend who has a child with a severe genetic disorder that’s rare enough to sneak through all genetic testing. My friend, living with that child, is 200% clear she’d opt to terminate if she knew ahead of time.

Your friend is a monster.