Texas judge grants woman’s request for abortion despite state ban

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Anonymous wrote:I sometimes read the comments sections of Foxnews articles just to see what the other side has to say. I have done this for years.

It's utterly fascinating to read the recent comments section on the couple Fox News articles about cases like these. Republicans saying they will not vote Republican because of their party's extreme stance on abortion. Republicans saying they should give up on abortion as an issue as it's costing them elections. I've NEVER seen the comment section lean this way.

Republicans are in trouble.


Yes, the Republicans are in definite trouble.

The population growth in Texas is about 80% growth in the urban areas which are highly Democratic. The majority of the influx into Texas is in the urban areas. Many Californians who are relocating for work are going to Austin, San Antonio and Houston. Also Galveston, Dallas/Ft Worth are experiencing shifting workers from blue parts of the country. Trump won Texas by 600K in 2020 (5.8M vs 5.2M). The population of Texas increased by 500K just in 2022-2023 and 400K of that increase was in the urban areas.

Additionally, in every state where there has been an election tied to the abortion issue, the Democrats have soundly won. The nation is rough 60% pro-choice vs 40% pro-life. This is why Kansas and Ohio both won state constitutional amendments preserving abortion rights. This is why Andy Beshear won soundly in Kentucky as a Democratic governor in a very Republican state and why the Virginia state congress converted to both houses with a small Democratic majority. In every state where abortion rights was a key issue, the Democrats have won. Texas will be facing this issue in 2024 and all of the national attention on abortion rights on top of the shifting demographics means that any GOP candidate who is tied to the recent abortion legislation will lose several points on reelection. Those from the more rural areas that tend to be highly conservative will probably not lose enough support to lose the elections, but the Republicans in the suburban areas are going to be having a hard time with reelection as the suburbs have always been kind of purple and there are going to be those who lose enough of their support to lose reelection.

I think that this whole thing is going to blow up in the GOP's face in Texas.


And even most of the pro-lifers agree with exceptions and are horrified by what Ms. Cox has endured.


Then why do they keep voting for the people that put these laws in place?


Yes. Please explain to me why they keep voting like this.

Because people never think bad shlt like this will ever happen to them, until it does.


No, the poor people vote reliably against the Republicans because they know that there are no exceptions for the poor.

It's the UMC and higher whites who believe that there are exceptions that will be made. They believe that the privileged (like themselves) will be granted the exceptions and they don't care when "those people" (the poor and minorities) are not granted exceptions because they believe that they deserve what the laws say.

There are many women who are having to travel out of state who say that they never thought the laws would apply to them or in their situations.


How incredibly arrogant and stupid of them. Not thinking about pregnancy complications, infertility issues, laws allowing family members to be sued or prosecuted, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:I sometimes read the comments sections of Foxnews articles just to see what the other side has to say. I have done this for years.

It's utterly fascinating to read the recent comments section on the couple Fox News articles about cases like these. Republicans saying they will not vote Republican because of their party's extreme stance on abortion. Republicans saying they should give up on abortion as an issue as it's costing them elections. I've NEVER seen the comment section lean this way.

Republicans are in trouble.


Yes, the Republicans are in definite trouble.

The population growth in Texas is about 80% growth in the urban areas which are highly Democratic. The majority of the influx into Texas is in the urban areas. Many Californians who are relocating for work are going to Austin, San Antonio and Houston. Also Galveston, Dallas/Ft Worth are experiencing shifting workers from blue parts of the country. Trump won Texas by 600K in 2020 (5.8M vs 5.2M). The population of Texas increased by 500K just in 2022-2023 and 400K of that increase was in the urban areas.

Additionally, in every state where there has been an election tied to the abortion issue, the Democrats have soundly won. The nation is rough 60% pro-choice vs 40% pro-life. This is why Kansas and Ohio both won state constitutional amendments preserving abortion rights. This is why Andy Beshear won soundly in Kentucky as a Democratic governor in a very Republican state and why the Virginia state congress converted to both houses with a small Democratic majority. In every state where abortion rights was a key issue, the Democrats have won. Texas will be facing this issue in 2024 and all of the national attention on abortion rights on top of the shifting demographics means that any GOP candidate who is tied to the recent abortion legislation will lose several points on reelection. Those from the more rural areas that tend to be highly conservative will probably not lose enough support to lose the elections, but the Republicans in the suburban areas are going to be having a hard time with reelection as the suburbs have always been kind of purple and there are going to be those who lose enough of their support to lose reelection.

I think that this whole thing is going to blow up in the GOP's face in Texas.


And even most of the pro-lifers agree with exceptions and are horrified by what Ms. Cox has endured.


Then why do they keep voting for the people that put these laws in place?


Yes. Please explain to me why they keep voting like this.

Because people never think bad shlt like this will ever happen to them, until it does.


No, the poor people vote reliably against the Republicans because they know that there are no exceptions for the poor.

It's the UMC and higher whites who believe that there are exceptions that will be made. They believe that the privileged (like themselves) will be granted the exceptions and they don't care when "those people" (the poor and minorities) are not granted exceptions because they believe that they deserve what the laws say.

There are many women who are having to travel out of state who say that they never thought the laws would apply to them or in their situations.


How incredibly arrogant and stupid of them. Not thinking about pregnancy complications, infertility issues, laws allowing family members to be sued or prosecuted, etc.


Not mention OB/GYN’s, ER doctors, and Nurse Practioners fleeing these states, and new medical residents and doctors not willing to take residencies or jobs in their states. Not thinking about any of this, apparently. Or, maybe people who vote for these laws don’t mind living in OB/GYN and emergency doctor deserts?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I sometimes read the comments sections of Foxnews articles just to see what the other side has to say. I have done this for years.

It's utterly fascinating to read the recent comments section on the couple Fox News articles about cases like these. Republicans saying they will not vote Republican because of their party's extreme stance on abortion. Republicans saying they should give up on abortion as an issue as it's costing them elections. I've NEVER seen the comment section lean this way.

Republicans are in trouble.


Yes, the Republicans are in definite trouble.

The population growth in Texas is about 80% growth in the urban areas which are highly Democratic. The majority of the influx into Texas is in the urban areas. Many Californians who are relocating for work are going to Austin, San Antonio and Houston. Also Galveston, Dallas/Ft Worth are experiencing shifting workers from blue parts of the country. Trump won Texas by 600K in 2020 (5.8M vs 5.2M). The population of Texas increased by 500K just in 2022-2023 and 400K of that increase was in the urban areas.

Additionally, in every state where there has been an election tied to the abortion issue, the Democrats have soundly won. The nation is rough 60% pro-choice vs 40% pro-life. This is why Kansas and Ohio both won state constitutional amendments preserving abortion rights. This is why Andy Beshear won soundly in Kentucky as a Democratic governor in a very Republican state and why the Virginia state congress converted to both houses with a small Democratic majority. In every state where abortion rights was a key issue, the Democrats have won. Texas will be facing this issue in 2024 and all of the national attention on abortion rights on top of the shifting demographics means that any GOP candidate who is tied to the recent abortion legislation will lose several points on reelection. Those from the more rural areas that tend to be highly conservative will probably not lose enough support to lose the elections, but the Republicans in the suburban areas are going to be having a hard time with reelection as the suburbs have always been kind of purple and there are going to be those who lose enough of their support to lose reelection.

I think that this whole thing is going to blow up in the GOP's face in Texas.


And even most of the pro-lifers agree with exceptions and are horrified by what Ms. Cox has endured.


Then why do they keep voting for the people that put these laws in place?


Yes. Please explain to me why they keep voting like this.

Because people never think bad shlt like this will ever happen to them, until it does.


No, the poor people vote reliably against the Republicans because they know that there are no exceptions for the poor.

It's the UMC and higher whites who believe that there are exceptions that will be made. They believe that the privileged (like themselves) will be granted the exceptions and they don't care when "those people" (the poor and minorities) are not granted exceptions because they believe that they deserve what the laws say.

There are many women who are having to travel out of state who say that they never thought the laws would apply to them or in their situations.


How incredibly arrogant and stupid of them. Not thinking about pregnancy complications, infertility issues, laws allowing family members to be sued or prosecuted, etc.


Not mention OB/GYN’s, ER doctors, and Nurse Practioners fleeing these states, and new medical residents and doctors not willing to take residencies or jobs in their states. Not thinking about any of this, apparently. Or, maybe people who vote for these laws don’t mind living in OB/GYN and emergency doctor deserts?


I'm sure they'll import medical staff from overseas if this becomes the case. That's already happening throughout the US.
Anonymous
Good that she didn’t wait, because the Texas Supreme Court decision is in and it wasn’t a good one for her.
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Texas Supreme Court decision here:
https://www.txcourts.gov/media/1457645/230994pc.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I sometimes read the comments sections of Foxnews articles just to see what the other side has to say. I have done this for years.

It's utterly fascinating to read the recent comments section on the couple Fox News articles about cases like these. Republicans saying they will not vote Republican because of their party's extreme stance on abortion. Republicans saying they should give up on abortion as an issue as it's costing them elections. I've NEVER seen the comment section lean this way.

Republicans are in trouble.


Yes, the Republicans are in definite trouble.

The population growth in Texas is about 80% growth in the urban areas which are highly Democratic. The majority of the influx into Texas is in the urban areas. Many Californians who are relocating for work are going to Austin, San Antonio and Houston. Also Galveston, Dallas/Ft Worth are experiencing shifting workers from blue parts of the country. Trump won Texas by 600K in 2020 (5.8M vs 5.2M). The population of Texas increased by 500K just in 2022-2023 and 400K of that increase was in the urban areas.

Additionally, in every state where there has been an election tied to the abortion issue, the Democrats have soundly won. The nation is rough 60% pro-choice vs 40% pro-life. This is why Kansas and Ohio both won state constitutional amendments preserving abortion rights. This is why Andy Beshear won soundly in Kentucky as a Democratic governor in a very Republican state and why the Virginia state congress converted to both houses with a small Democratic majority. In every state where abortion rights was a key issue, the Democrats have won. Texas will be facing this issue in 2024 and all of the national attention on abortion rights on top of the shifting demographics means that any GOP candidate who is tied to the recent abortion legislation will lose several points on reelection. Those from the more rural areas that tend to be highly conservative will probably not lose enough support to lose the elections, but the Republicans in the suburban areas are going to be having a hard time with reelection as the suburbs have always been kind of purple and there are going to be those who lose enough of their support to lose reelection.

I think that this whole thing is going to blow up in the GOP's face in Texas.


And even most of the pro-lifers agree with exceptions and are horrified by what Ms. Cox has endured.


Then why do they keep voting for the people that put these laws in place?


Yes. Please explain to me why they keep voting like this.

Because people never think bad shlt like this will ever happen to them, until it does.


No, the poor people vote reliably against the Republicans because they know that there are no exceptions for the poor.

It's the UMC and higher whites who believe that there are exceptions that will be made. They believe that the privileged (like themselves) will be granted the exceptions and they don't care when "those people" (the poor and minorities) are not granted exceptions because they believe that they deserve what the laws say.

There are many women who are having to travel out of state who say that they never thought the laws would apply to them or in their situations.

I think even Kate Cox said something to the effect that she didn't think the "exceptions" would be so hard to prove. I'm in no way blaming her and have no idea if she is a Republican just that she herself thought she would be granted the exception and wasn't.
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Anonymous wrote:Good that she didn’t wait, because the Texas Supreme Court decision is in and it wasn’t a good one for her.

Every day I don't think I could become angrier. I'm channeling that into donating monthly to the Texas Democratic Party on top of the voter registration efforts that I'm already involved in in Ohio. This fills me with pure, unadulterated rage.
Anonymous
They are ghouls. There is simply no other explanation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Good that she didn’t wait, because the Texas Supreme Court decision is in and it wasn’t a good one for her.

wtf.. "some difficulties".

Wow, I hope your R Texans are proud of yourselves. You'd better pray that this never happens to you or your wife, daughter, sister.

Again, no one ever thinks they will need an abortion until they do. And when/if you do, I hope you thank God for blue states.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I sometimes read the comments sections of Foxnews articles just to see what the other side has to say. I have done this for years.

It's utterly fascinating to read the recent comments section on the couple Fox News articles about cases like these. Republicans saying they will not vote Republican because of their party's extreme stance on abortion. Republicans saying they should give up on abortion as an issue as it's costing them elections. I've NEVER seen the comment section lean this way.

Republicans are in trouble.


Yes, the Republicans are in definite trouble.

The population growth in Texas is about 80% growth in the urban areas which are highly Democratic. The majority of the influx into Texas is in the urban areas. Many Californians who are relocating for work are going to Austin, San Antonio and Houston. Also Galveston, Dallas/Ft Worth are experiencing shifting workers from blue parts of the country. Trump won Texas by 600K in 2020 (5.8M vs 5.2M). The population of Texas increased by 500K just in 2022-2023 and 400K of that increase was in the urban areas.

Additionally, in every state where there has been an election tied to the abortion issue, the Democrats have soundly won. The nation is rough 60% pro-choice vs 40% pro-life. This is why Kansas and Ohio both won state constitutional amendments preserving abortion rights. This is why Andy Beshear won soundly in Kentucky as a Democratic governor in a very Republican state and why the Virginia state congress converted to both houses with a small Democratic majority. In every state where abortion rights was a key issue, the Democrats have won. Texas will be facing this issue in 2024 and all of the national attention on abortion rights on top of the shifting demographics means that any GOP candidate who is tied to the recent abortion legislation will lose several points on reelection. Those from the more rural areas that tend to be highly conservative will probably not lose enough support to lose the elections, but the Republicans in the suburban areas are going to be having a hard time with reelection as the suburbs have always been kind of purple and there are going to be those who lose enough of their support to lose reelection.

I think that this whole thing is going to blow up in the GOP's face in Texas.


And even most of the pro-lifers agree with exceptions and are horrified by what Ms. Cox has endured.


Then why do they keep voting for the people that put these laws in place?


Yes. Please explain to me why they keep voting like this.

Because people never think bad shlt like this will ever happen to them, until it does.


No, the poor people vote reliably against the Republicans because they know that there are no exceptions for the poor.

It's the UMC and higher whites who believe that there are exceptions that will be made. They believe that the privileged (like themselves) will be granted the exceptions and they don't care when "those people" (the poor and minorities) are not granted exceptions because they believe that they deserve what the laws say.

There are many women who are having to travel out of state who say that they never thought the laws would apply to them or in their situations.

I think even Kate Cox said something to the effect that she didn't think the "exceptions" would be so hard to prove. I'm in no way blaming her and have no idea if she is a Republican just that she herself thought she would be granted the exception and wasn't.

I'm thinking a lot of R women probably thought the same. I hope they have opened their eyes now, but I'm not so certain.
Anonymous
So now they will get sued by thousands of bounty hunters for leaving the state? Or is it whoever files first gets the $$? Of if 1,000 people file, they have to pay $10,000 to each of them?
Anonymous
WOW, the only thing wrong about this ad is blaming Abbot, not Paxton.
Anonymous
It's really time to get clinics and hospitals on Native American land and in the floating hospitals out at sea. It could help with some of the gaps in services in some of the southern states. (I did see an article on this when Roe was overturned. I'm surprised it isn't happening yet).
Anonymous
As a reminder to those who support a "compromise" 15-week ban (looking at you Youngkin/Virginia), Kate Cox's fetal diagnosis was found at her amniocentesis test - WHICH IS DONE AFTER 15 WEEKS. No Bans. Full Stop.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Good that she didn’t wait, because the Texas Supreme Court decision is in and it wasn’t a good one for her.


Well at least we now know for certain that all the people arguing the exceptions take care of these cases are liars.
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