Style choices that age women in their 40s

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that really big boobs on women are more aging over 40. It’s just gravity. I’m at a family function right now and my cousins with big boobs look older than same age people with small or even just average-sized chests. It changes your body shape and dictates how you dress to some degree. And yes, it all means more matronly.

Someone posted pics of Helen Mirren upthread to prove an older woman with big breasts can look youthful and hot. That’s how you know it’s true— Helen Mirren is the exception that proves the rule. She makes wrinkles and gray hair and a womanly older body look good.

There’s only one Helen Mirren.

So, how many attractive older women with large breasts do I have to post to make the point? Because I can think of several without trying.

And yes, these are women paid to be beautiful. They are professionally in the public eye. But c'mon, the critical stance that big breast on their own as an attribute will necessarily make you look matronly is, well, bunk. You know that. It's a lot of things added up, including how you style your body (as well as 600 other things).

If you look matronly, it's not because your breasts are big. It's because those breasts aren't supported, or are dwarfed by a protruding belly, or are draped in eight thousand dishwater-colored scarves, or whatever. But it's not just because of the breasts. Sorry if that pricks the happy bubble of revenge for some people, but that was a gross one to begin with anyway.

There is a middle aged body we are all familiar with that starts to look more rectangular. I think that's what PP was talking about. And you do often see women who've come into that shape in tunics that emphasize it. I just don't know what the heck you're supposed to do about it or how you can call it a "style choice." Our bodies make some choices for us!

That highlights the issue with tunics- no waist.

But that’s why I’m WEARING the mother f$&ing tunic in the first place!!

This is exhausting and the reason the smart women hit 40 and move to the edge of the woods to be witches.

Look, a witch's caftan is a style CHOICE that I fully support.

Right? Witches cabins are probably a huge tax advantage. And if I need a man, there’s no reason I can’t take one captive.

I would like to sign up for the witch cabin. I have plenty of caftans I can share and and assortment of capris, tankinis and non-sexy sandals as well.

I want to be a witch and everything but idk if I’m ready for tankinis.

It’s just coven culture, accept it. What the heck else are you supposed to kayak in?

Fach, you’re right, because it would be such a pain to pee outside the houses of the townspeople at night in a one piece.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that buying clothes is too much work and it’s okay to just embrace our fashion invisibility and wear the capris and the tunic and be happy, at least some do the time. You look best when you’re happy.

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SO MUCH THIS.

I'm in my 50s, not 40s, so perhaps this thread is not for me, but here's where I am: My feet hurt and my waistline is disappearing. Fabulous shoes are no longer for me. Clothing styles I've relied on for years no longer look good on me. Truthfully, though I am reasonably slim and fit, I'm not sure very much looks "good" on me any more. So generally I am aiming for "good enough." I want to be comfortable, and I want to spend whatever time I have left on this earth actually LIVING life, rather than shopping, dressing, and primping for it.

Sure, and rah rah on all the personal power stuff, but you are the one hanging out in Beauty & Fashion. A little disingenuous, don't you think?

Personally, I read this board and the private school board for the entertainment.

Then the whole world must be an endless series of surprises for you, given your reaction.

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Anonymous wrote:What a thread. It took a tedious detour for 7-8 pages when we were overcome with bosom discussion but I like that on page 20 we’ve all accepted we are just eldritch crones (with or without the tunics).

Listen just because I live by the woods, have a bosom, wear capri pants and occasionally eat souls doesn’t mean I can’t be stylish.

I don’t eat souls but each month on the new moon I perform a sacred ritual whereby I place a healing spell upon the girdle I was assigned to wear 24 hours a day to confuse those walking behind me when I turned around. It then takes on the appearance of a jean jacket which I wear with my Soft Surroundings dresses.

Well if you start consuming souls every fortnight, you’ll definitely need a tunic to hide that waist. Of course your face will be plump and dewy. Trade offs amiright?

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that really big boobs on women are more aging over 40. It’s just gravity. I’m at a family function right now and my cousins with big boobs look older than same age people with small or even just average-sized chests. It changes your body shape and dictates how you dress to some degree. And yes, it all means more matronly.

Someone posted pics of Helen Mirren upthread to prove an older woman with big breasts can look youthful and hot. That’s how you know it’s true— Helen Mirren is the exception that proves the rule. She makes wrinkles and gray hair and a womanly older body look good.

There’s only one Helen Mirren.

So, how many attractive older women with large breasts do I have to post to make the point? Because I can think of several without trying.

And yes, these are women paid to be beautiful. They are professionally in the public eye. But c'mon, the critical stance that big breast on their own as an attribute will necessarily make you look matronly is, well, bunk. You know that. It's a lot of things added up, including how you style your body (as well as 600 other things).

If you look matronly, it's not because your breasts are big. It's because those breasts aren't supported, or are dwarfed by a protruding belly, or are draped in eight thousand dishwater-colored scarves, or whatever. But it's not just because of the breasts. Sorry if that pricks the happy bubble of revenge for some people, but that was a gross one to begin with anyway.

There is a middle aged body we are all familiar with that starts to look more rectangular. I think that's what PP was talking about. And you do often see women who've come into that shape in tunics that emphasize it. I just don't know what the heck you're supposed to do about it or how you can call it a "style choice." Our bodies make some choices for us!

That highlights the issue with tunics- no waist.

But that’s why I’m WEARING the mother f$&ing tunic in the first place!!

This is exhausting and the reason the smart women hit 40 and move to the edge of the woods to be witches.

Look, a witch's caftan is a style CHOICE that I fully support.

Right? Witches cabins are probably a huge tax advantage. And if I need a man, there’s no reason I can’t take one captive.

I would like to sign up for the witch cabin. I have plenty of caftans I can share and and assortment of capris, tankinis and non-sexy sandals as well.

I just bought my first caftan, can I come like in the witch cabin commune?

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that really big boobs on women are more aging over 40. It’s just gravity. I’m at a family function right now and my cousins with big boobs look older than same age people with small or even just average-sized chests. It changes your body shape and dictates how you dress to some degree. And yes, it all means more matronly.

Someone posted pics of Helen Mirren upthread to prove an older woman with big breasts can look youthful and hot. That’s how you know it’s true— Helen Mirren is the exception that proves the rule. She makes wrinkles and gray hair and a womanly older body look good.

There’s only one Helen Mirren.

So, how many attractive older women with large breasts do I have to post to make the point? Because I can think of several without trying.

And yes, these are women paid to be beautiful. They are professionally in the public eye. But c'mon, the critical stance that big breast on their own as an attribute will necessarily make you look matronly is, well, bunk. You know that. It's a lot of things added up, including how you style your body (as well as 600 other things).

If you look matronly, it's not because your breasts are big. It's because those breasts aren't supported, or are dwarfed by a protruding belly, or are draped in eight thousand dishwater-colored scarves, or whatever. But it's not just because of the breasts. Sorry if that pricks the happy bubble of revenge for some people, but that was a gross one to begin with anyway.

There is a middle aged body we are all familiar with that starts to look more rectangular. I think that's what PP was talking about. And you do often see women who've come into that shape in tunics that emphasize it. I just don't know what the heck you're supposed to do about it or how you can call it a "style choice." Our bodies make some choices for us!

That highlights the issue with tunics- no waist.

But that’s why I’m WEARING the mother f$&ing tunic in the first place!!

This is exhausting and the reason the smart women hit 40 and move to the edge of the woods to be witches.

Look, a witch's caftan is a style CHOICE that I fully support.

Right? Witches cabins are probably a huge tax advantage. And if I need a man, there’s no reason I can’t take one captive.

I would like to sign up for the witch cabin. I have plenty of caftans I can share and and assortment of capris, tankinis and non-sexy sandals as well.

I just bought my first caftan, can I come like in the witch cabin commune?

Do you do any fiber crafts?

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Anonymous wrote:Not coloring gray hair.
Chipped teeth
Missing teeth
Wearing clothing from Walmart and/or KMart
Bad posture

I do agree that small busted women can dress age appropriate but still look way more youthful.
Very large bust in a tight top or stretched out in a blouse just looks matronly.

A crown is $5000 and it is not a fashion choice.

For a second I thought this had to do with frumpy British fashion.

Same!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that really big boobs on women are more aging over 40. It’s just gravity. I’m at a family function right now and my cousins with big boobs look older than same age people with small or even just average-sized chests. It changes your body shape and dictates how you dress to some degree. And yes, it all means more matronly.

Someone posted pics of Helen Mirren upthread to prove an older woman with big breasts can look youthful and hot. That’s how you know it’s true— Helen Mirren is the exception that proves the rule. She makes wrinkles and gray hair and a womanly older body look good.

There’s only one Helen Mirren.

So, how many attractive older women with large breasts do I have to post to make the point? Because I can think of several without trying.

And yes, these are women paid to be beautiful. They are professionally in the public eye. But c'mon, the critical stance that big breast on their own as an attribute will necessarily make you look matronly is, well, bunk. You know that. It's a lot of things added up, including how you style your body (as well as 600 other things).

If you look matronly, it's not because your breasts are big. It's because those breasts aren't supported, or are dwarfed by a protruding belly, or are draped in eight thousand dishwater-colored scarves, or whatever. But it's not just because of the breasts. Sorry if that pricks the happy bubble of revenge for some people, but that was a gross one to begin with anyway.

There is a middle aged body we are all familiar with that starts to look more rectangular. I think that's what PP was talking about. And you do often see women who've come into that shape in tunics that emphasize it. I just don't know what the heck you're supposed to do about it or how you can call it a "style choice." Our bodies make some choices for us!

That highlights the issue with tunics- no waist.

But that’s why I’m WEARING the mother f$&ing tunic in the first place!!

This is exhausting and the reason the smart women hit 40 and move to the edge of the woods to be witches.

Look, a witch's caftan is a style CHOICE that I fully support.

Right? Witches cabins are probably a huge tax advantage. And if I need a man, there’s no reason I can’t take one captive.

I would like to sign up for the witch cabin. I have plenty of caftans I can share and and assortment of capris, tankinis and non-sexy sandals as well.

I just bought my first caftan, can I come like in the witch cabin commune?

Do you do any fiber crafts?

No but sourdough

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not coloring gray hair.
Chipped teeth
Missing teeth
Wearing clothing from Walmart and/or KMart
Bad posture

I do agree that small busted women can dress age appropriate but still look way more youthful.
Very large bust in a tight top or stretched out in a blouse just looks matronly.

A crown is $5000 and it is not a fashion choice.

+1 I’d love to fix my teeth and know exactly how to do so, but simply cannot afford it.

My teeth tell you how not rich I am, not how old I am. People regularly assume I’m younger than I am.

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Not having fun with fashion!

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Anonymous wrote:What a thread. It took a tedious detour for 7-8 pages when we were overcome with bosom discussion but I like that on page 20 we’ve all accepted we are just eldritch crones (with or without the tunics).

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Tunics can be a cultural choice. You don't have to show your ass to look young.

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So, I’m bored tonight and read this whole thread. (What a ride!) Then I went into the bedroom to change into pajamas and happened to notice a small pile of clothes I’d set into a “decide whether to keep these” pile. They were: 1) two shapeless low-support bras, 2) a pair of capris, and 3) a tunic from Soft Surroundings. Guess I know what to do with them now!

But in general, I’m of the opinion that the problem isn’t so much certain items themselves as the fact that it’s a 50-year-old (in my case) with certain cultural baggage who’s wearing those items. I have always loved thrift shopping, and in my teens and 20s I could buy literally anything and pull it off. Old-fashioned, new trends, men’s clothes, costume-y, you name it. Now when I browse thrift stores with my teen, she could now do that but anything risky on my part would be read by others less as “fun with fashion” and more as “oh no, crazy grandma thinks that’s stylish.”

Ah well, guess what I’ve lost in fashion freedom I’ve gained in developing the confidence to dress for comfort without caring what anyone else thinks of that. (In truth, the poor Soft Surroundings tunic is getting the boot because it has a mesh layer that irritates my hyper-sensitive skin, not because of anything said here. I was just amused by the coincidence.)

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Anonymous wrote:It's about the waist, not the boobs.

Bingo. And the loss of estrogen doesn't help. However, some women with big boobs maintain a curved waist, whether by genetics or work or surgery or what have you, and those boobs themselves do not make them matronly without the challenge of the waist.

I think that’s true. It’s more about holding onto the hourglass figure. If you still have a smaller waist with a larger chest as you get older - great! But the “Apple shape” is what starts looking dowdy and matronly a lot of the time.

Big boobs help you avoid the apple shape anyway. Your waist can add so many inches and still look like an hourglass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tunics can be a cultural choice. You don't have to show your ass to look young.

My tunic does show my ass

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Anonymous wrote:It's about the waist, not the boobs.

Bingo. And the loss of estrogen doesn't help. However, some women with big boobs maintain a curved waist, whether by genetics or work or surgery or what have you, and those boobs themselves do not make them matronly without the challenge of the waist.

I think that’s true. It’s more about holding onto the hourglass figure. If you still have a smaller waist with a larger chest as you get older - great! But the “Apple shape” is what starts looking dowdy and matronly a lot of the time.

Big boobs help you avoid the apple shape anyway. Your waist can add so many inches and still look like an hourglass.

OMFG is this why the witch in Snow White uses an apple? The whole thing is a freaking metaphor????

Anyway in the witch cabins we have literal hourglasses, the new girl uses them to time her sourdough. And we have apples obviously because we all got really into gardening a few years ago, though now things are a bit neglected because of the heat and our backs.