Chastised for not tipping on a to go order

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Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

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Anonymous wrote:I get it that many of you think workers who are working hard for minimum wage should not get tips. I disagree and so do many others. You aren't going to change the system with your whining, you are just going to keep your tip money in your pocket with your obstinance. But then, that's the goal, right? You deserve the money more than they do.

I mean, they’re not all working that hard. Working for minimum wage doesn’t equal working hard, and I don’t feel it’s my place to deem who deserves more money in a thirty second interaction. That’s for their employer to figure out if they want them to stick around.

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Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

It’s not about the place, it’s about the service. In this case, OP didn’t get any.

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Either an entitled waitress or one that's on the spectrum with rigid rules.

I would have responded in the same way, OP.

OP initiated the sequence of events with her cheapness and entitled attitude.

Scroll up a bit. The restaurant owner disagrees with you. A tip on takeout is appreciated, but not expected, and certainly not demanded.

I don't have to scroll up to know how to treat workers with kindness.

Well the staff at this restaurant didn’t treat OP with kindness, so maybe you still have some life lessons to learn.

No, the worker didn't respond with kindness. Most of us don't get that kind of response from restaurant employees because we treat them with kindness and respect and show our appreciation by tipping them for their service. You have an opportunity to do better in the coming new year!😊👍

Uhhh, no. No one is entitled to tips. And if you demand a tip, you are rude and should be fired. People like you are encouraging this ridiculous, entitled behavior. Congrats.

No one is entitled to a tip. And you can continue to act like a cheap jerk.

Tipping has nothing to do with being kind or being a jerk. You are paying for the quality of service. In this instance there was no service.

Oh, I thought someone prepared a to go order for the OP. Maybe she got her order from a vending machine?

Guess the OP should tip the cook, the dishwasher, the rest of the kitchen staff too since they all contributed to the making the food?

Not to worry. I doubt the OP wouldn't even consider giving a dime to any of them.

Nor would the majority of people.

Nor should they, because they’re getting paid the amount they agreed to work for. This overtipping nonsense feels creepily paternalistic. Some of you feel so pleased with yourselves for tossing a few bucks at people you deem lesser than you. It’s more about you than them, and that’s exactly what these stupid iPad point-of-sale systems are capitalizing on.

We've all noted your tiresome efforts to rationalize your cheapness.

I don’t care. I worked in restaurants for years, both back of the house and front, tipped and untipped. I feel pretty good about my thoughts on this matter.

I agree with you 100%.
The “we tip everyone everywhere” crowd are literal virtue signalers. It’s tiresome.
And no, I’m not cheap.

Yes, you are. But you seem fine with it. No worries.

It’s not cheap to not tip when you aren’t getting a service. Tipping is not for food preparation. It’s for service at a table.

We have heard your excuses ad nauseum. Do what you want. But you ARE cheap.

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Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

It’s not about the place, it’s about the service. In this case, OP didn’t get any.

Your definition of service is narrow and designed to fit your own narrative. Unless they went in to the business and prepared their own order and then rang it up for themselves after packaging it up and handing it to themself they did get some service.

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Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

It’s not about the place, it’s about the service. In this case, OP didn’t get any.

Your definition of service is narrow and designed to fit your own narrative. Unless they went in to the business and prepared their own order and then rang it up for themselves after packaging it up and handing it to themself they did get some service.

Do you tip the cashiers in retail stores as well? How about the ticket taker at the movie theater? Or the security personnel at a concert? Or the receptionist at your dentist? Are they not performing services?

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Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

If all the "normal" tippers stayed home, most places will shut down and you whackos won't have a place to eat! You'll have to move your lazy asses and cook for your family or maybe even learn to cook. Howdya like that?

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Either an entitled waitress or one that's on the spectrum with rigid rules.

I would have responded in the same way, OP.

OP initiated the sequence of events with her cheapness and entitled attitude.

Scroll up a bit. The restaurant owner disagrees with you. A tip on takeout is appreciated, but not expected, and certainly not demanded.

I don't have to scroll up to know how to treat workers with kindness.

Well the staff at this restaurant didn’t treat OP with kindness, so maybe you still have some life lessons to learn.

No, the worker didn't respond with kindness. Most of us don't get that kind of response from restaurant employees because we treat them with kindness and respect and show our appreciation by tipping them for their service. You have an opportunity to do better in the coming new year!😊👍

Uhhh, no. No one is entitled to tips. And if you demand a tip, you are rude and should be fired. People like you are encouraging this ridiculous, entitled behavior. Congrats.

No one is entitled to a tip. And you can continue to act like a cheap jerk.

Tipping has nothing to do with being kind or being a jerk. You are paying for the quality of service. In this instance there was no service.

Oh, I thought someone prepared a to go order for the OP. Maybe she got her order from a vending machine?

Guess the OP should tip the cook, the dishwasher, the rest of the kitchen staff too since they all contributed to the making the food?

Not to worry. I doubt the OP wouldn't even consider giving a dime to any of them.

Nor would the majority of people.

Nor should they, because they’re getting paid the amount they agreed to work for. This overtipping nonsense feels creepily paternalistic. Some of you feel so pleased with yourselves for tossing a few bucks at people you deem lesser than you. It’s more about you than them, and that’s exactly what these stupid iPad point-of-sale systems are capitalizing on.

We've all noted your tiresome efforts to rationalize your cheapness.

I don’t care. I worked in restaurants for years, both back of the house and front, tipped and untipped. I feel pretty good about my thoughts on this matter.

I agree with you 100%.
The “we tip everyone everywhere” crowd are literal virtue signalers. It’s tiresome.
And no, I’m not cheap.

Yes, you are. But you seem fine with it. No worries.

It’s not cheap to not tip when you aren’t getting a service. Tipping is not for food preparation. It’s for service at a table.

We have heard your excuses ad nauseum. Do what you want. But you ARE cheap.

And you are just virtue signalling.

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Anonymous wrote:
Either an entitled waitress or one that's on the spectrum with rigid rules.

I would have responded in the same way, OP.

OP initiated the sequence of events with her cheapness and entitled attitude.

Scroll up a bit. The restaurant owner disagrees with you. A tip on takeout is appreciated, but not expected, and certainly not demanded.

I don't have to scroll up to know how to treat workers with kindness.

Well the staff at this restaurant didn’t treat OP with kindness, so maybe you still have some life lessons to learn.

No, the worker didn't respond with kindness. Most of us don't get that kind of response from restaurant employees because we treat them with kindness and respect and show our appreciation by tipping them for their service. You have an opportunity to do better in the coming new year!😊👍

Uhhh, no. No one is entitled to tips. And if you demand a tip, you are rude and should be fired. People like you are encouraging this ridiculous, entitled behavior. Congrats.

No one is entitled to a tip. And you can continue to act like a cheap jerk.

Tipping has nothing to do with being kind or being a jerk. You are paying for the quality of service. In this instance there was no service.

Oh, I thought someone prepared a to go order for the OP. Maybe she got her order from a vending machine?

Guess the OP should tip the cook, the dishwasher, the rest of the kitchen staff too since they all contributed to the making the food?

Not to worry. I doubt the OP wouldn't even consider giving a dime to any of them.

Nor would the majority of people.

Nor should they, because they’re getting paid the amount they agreed to work for. This overtipping nonsense feels creepily paternalistic. Some of you feel so pleased with yourselves for tossing a few bucks at people you deem lesser than you. It’s more about you than them, and that’s exactly what these stupid iPad point-of-sale systems are capitalizing on.

We've all noted your tiresome efforts to rationalize your cheapness.

I don’t care. I worked in restaurants for years, both back of the house and front, tipped and untipped. I feel pretty good about my thoughts on this matter.

I agree with you 100%.
The “we tip everyone everywhere” crowd are literal virtue signalers. It’s tiresome.
And no, I’m not cheap.

Yes, you are. But you seem fine with it. No worries.

It’s not cheap to not tip when you aren’t getting a service. Tipping is not for food preparation. It’s for service at a table.

We have heard your excuses ad nauseum. Do what you want. But you ARE cheap.

And you are just virtue signalling.

YAWN

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Just can't part with my money.

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Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

It’s not about the place, it’s about the service. In this case, OP didn’t get any.

Your definition of service is narrow and designed to fit your own narrative. Unless they went in to the business and prepared their own order and then rang it up for themselves after packaging it up and handing it to themself they did get some service.

Do you tip the cashiers in retail stores as well? How about the ticket taker at the movie theater? Or the security personnel at a concert? Or the receptionist at your dentist? Are they not performing services?

I always tip at places where tipping is expected. I guess you just make up your own rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You were both rude. You are supposed to tip on takeout. The server was also rude for asking directly for a tip.

That's your contention that you are "supposed to". I disagree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the NYC area where minimum wage is 15 dollars an hour. I do not tip for takeout, and that was not a thing when I was growing up (I’m in my thirties.) tipping is out of control. I tip for services where I am waited on- like sit down meals at restaurants, haircuts, curbside check in at the airport, etc.

You are misinformed.

Combining Cash Wages and Tips
New York State law allows employers in all industries other than building service to satisfy the minimum wage by combining a “cash wage” paid by the employer with a credit or allowance for tips that the employee receives from customers. For example, the minimum wage for food service workers in New York City is $15.00 per hour. Their employers can satisfy the minimum wage by combining a cash wage of at least $10.00 with a tip allowance of no more than $5.00 per hour.

Food Service Workers have a minimum hourly wage with a maximum hourly tip credit as
follows:
(1) New York City for
(i) Large Employers of eleven or more employees
$7.50 Cash Wage, $3.50 Credit, $11.00 Total on and after December 31, 2016;
$8.65 Cash Wage, $4.35 Credit, $13.00 Total on and after December 31, 2017;
$10.00 Cash Wage, $5.00 Credit, $15.00 Total on and after December 31, 2018;
(ii) Small Employers of ten or fewer employees
$7.50 Cash Wage, $3.00 Credit, $10.50 Total on and after December 31, 2016;
$8.00 Cash Wage, $4.00 Credit, $12.00 Total on and after December 31, 2017;
$9.00 Cash Wage, $4.50 Credit, $13.50 Total on and after December 31, 2018;
$10.00 Cash Wage, $5.00 Credit, $15.00 Total on and after December 31, 2019;

https://dol.ny.gov/minimum-wage-tipped-workers#

For the tip credit in NYC, it requires that employers pool all tips and distribute it amongst employees in tipped roles. each employee much reach $15/hour regardless of whether it comes from the employer or tipping pool. Employers can only claim the above credit if there is a sufficient tip pool. So customers are subsidizing the wages that will be paid either way. This structure is likely the case in a full service restaurant where tipping is the standard. However, carry out orders should not have an employee that relies on tips as part of their payment structure. They should be salaried, like a chef, as they are not interacting with customers or waiting on them like a server would do.

In addition, I just googled nyc wages for a quick service chain line pret a manger, where salaries start at $15 per hour for a cashier. You do not need to tip a cashier in a quick service type place. It’s insane. I work a mid level job and do not get tipped by investment bankers just because they make more than I do. This is their job and that is the salary.

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Either an entitled waitress or one that's on the spectrum with rigid rules.

I would have responded in the same way, OP.

OP initiated the sequence of events with her cheapness and entitled attitude.

Scroll up a bit. The restaurant owner disagrees with you. A tip on takeout is appreciated, but not expected, and certainly not demanded.

I don't have to scroll up to know how to treat workers with kindness.

Well the staff at this restaurant didn’t treat OP with kindness, so maybe you still have some life lessons to learn.

No, the worker didn't respond with kindness. Most of us don't get that kind of response from restaurant employees because we treat them with kindness and respect and show our appreciation by tipping them for their service. You have an opportunity to do better in the coming new year!😊👍

Uhhh, no. No one is entitled to tips. And if you demand a tip, you are rude and should be fired. People like you are encouraging this ridiculous, entitled behavior. Congrats.

No one is entitled to a tip. And you can continue to act like a cheap jerk.

Tipping has nothing to do with being kind or being a jerk. You are paying for the quality of service. In this instance there was no service.

Oh, I thought someone prepared a to go order for the OP. Maybe she got her order from a vending machine?

Guess the OP should tip the cook, the dishwasher, the rest of the kitchen staff too since they all contributed to the making the food?

Not to worry. I doubt the OP wouldn't even consider giving a dime to any of them.

Nor would the majority of people.

Nor should they, because they’re getting paid the amount they agreed to work for. This overtipping nonsense feels creepily paternalistic. Some of you feel so pleased with yourselves for tossing a few bucks at people you deem lesser than you. It’s more about you than them, and that’s exactly what these stupid iPad point-of-sale systems are capitalizing on.

We've all noted your tiresome efforts to rationalize your cheapness.

I don’t care. I worked in restaurants for years, both back of the house and front, tipped and untipped. I feel pretty good about my thoughts on this matter.

I agree with you 100%.
The “we tip everyone everywhere” crowd are literal virtue signalers. It’s tiresome.
And no, I’m not cheap.

Yes, you are. But you seem fine with it. No worries.

It’s not cheap to not tip when you aren’t getting a service. Tipping is not for food preparation. It’s for service at a table.

We have heard your excuses ad nauseum. Do what you want. But you ARE cheap.

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