Should so called “thanksgiving” be a national day of mourning?

[Anonymous]

Thanksgiving is about family. Many of the Navaho, Apache, and Tohono O’odham I grew up with celebrated Thanksgiving. It isn’t to remember that fake story presented on Charlie Brown but rather as a time to be thankful for everything and to be with family. I’m always taken aback by posts like yours OP. It’s clear you haven’t spent much time around tribal communities. Yes, some don’t celebrate Thanksgiving but many do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanksgiving is about family. Many of the Navaho, Apache, and Tohono O’odham I grew up with celebrated Thanksgiving. It isn’t to remember that fake story presented on Charlie Brown but rather as a time to be thankful for everything and to be with family. I’m always taken aback by posts like yours OP. It’s clear you haven’t spent much time around tribal communities. Yes, some don’t celebrate Thanksgiving but many do.

+1 Native Americans join the military and defend America, because this is their land.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thanksgiving is about family. Many of the Navaho, Apache, and Tohono O’odham I grew up with celebrated Thanksgiving. It isn’t to remember that fake story presented on Charlie Brown but rather as a time to be thankful for everything and to be with family. I’m always taken aback by posts like yours OP. It’s clear you haven’t spent much time around tribal communities. Yes, some don’t celebrate Thanksgiving but many do.

+1 Native Americans join the military and defend America, because this is their land.

Careful tge woke will defend Native Americans up to the point that they join the military. Same with any minority. The military us a great equalizer and that coukd interfere with the woke’s sense of superiority.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is not a bad thing. Wave after wave of immigrants have been assimilated and now are just Americans.

And for better or worse, American Indians have chosen not to assimilate, or to both assimilate and not assimilate. Not sure that some of these posters know this or are willing to acknowledge this.

They were here first. Europeans chose not to assimilate.

Civilizations evolve and change over time. War. Climate. Myriad factors impact the course of history and the evolution of civilization. And maps. And hearts and minds.

What is your point? Assimilation in this context certainly means the people that are entering a culture becoming one with that culture. European settlers were the ones who did not assimilate.

Totally ridiculous idea. Europeans were not exactly invited to join the tribe! You would likely lose your scalp or worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thanksgiving is about family. Many of the Navaho, Apache, and Tohono O’odham I grew up with celebrated Thanksgiving. It isn’t to remember that fake story presented on Charlie Brown but rather as a time to be thankful for everything and to be with family. I’m always taken aback by posts like yours OP. It’s clear you haven’t spent much time around tribal communities. Yes, some don’t celebrate Thanksgiving but many do.

+1 Native Americans join the military and defend America, because this is their land.

Careful tge woke will defend Native Americans up to the point that they join the military. Same with any minority. The military us a great equalizer and that coukd interfere with the woke’s sense of superiority.

Nonsense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thanksgiving is about family. Many of the Navaho, Apache, and Tohono O’odham I grew up with celebrated Thanksgiving. It isn’t to remember that fake story presented on Charlie Brown but rather as a time to be thankful for everything and to be with family. I’m always taken aback by posts like yours OP. It’s clear you haven’t spent much time around tribal communities. Yes, some don’t celebrate Thanksgiving but many do.

+1 Native Americans join the military and defend America, because this is their land.

Careful tge woke will defend Native Americans up to the point that they join the military. Same with any minority. The military us a great equalizer and that coukd interfere with the woke’s sense of superiority.

Nonsense.

Just read this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is not a bad thing. Wave after wave of immigrants have been assimilated and now are just Americans.

And for better or worse, American Indians have chosen not to assimilate, or to both assimilate and not assimilate. Not sure that some of these posters know this or are willing to acknowledge this.

They were here first. Europeans chose not to assimilate.

I'm genuinely struck by how good a point this is. No snark.

Ok.

Should the Latinos coming to MoCo assimilate? English only?

Or should mcps cancel Halloween parties because the holiday rubs the newcomers the wrong way due to their religious beliefs?

That’s just one example. But I’m curious what you think. Should everyone assimilate, or should we be a melting pot and evolve?

I wasn't really taking a stance on assimilation itself. But I was thinking that as a general rule when people enter an established culture they do not destroy it. They may completely assimilate. They may create communities of people from their prior culture and interact with the greater population on a limited basis or they may even work to get aspects of their culture into the main stream.

The European settlers took a very different approach.

You would be wrong. Human history up through present day is one story of warring cultures killing each other after another. Thousands of lost cultures. I mean what is Russia doing to Ukraine? But especially 400 years ago that was the worldwide norm.

[Anonymous]

Thanksgiving is a day during which the typical American stuffs their face with several thousand calories of fat, salt, and sugar before embarking on a three-week spree of buying cheap crap manufactured overseas.

Sounds like a national day of mourning to me!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanksgiving is a day during which the typical American stuffs their face with several thousand calories of fat, salt, and sugar before embarking on a three-week spree of buying cheap crap manufactured overseas.

Sounds like a national day of mourning to me!

Every party needs a pooper!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is not a bad thing. Wave after wave of immigrants have been assimilated and now are just Americans.

And for better or worse, American Indians have chosen not to assimilate, or to both assimilate and not assimilate. Not sure that some of these posters know this or are willing to acknowledge this.

They were here first. Europeans chose not to assimilate.

I'm genuinely struck by how good a point this is. No snark.

Ok.

Should the Latinos coming to MoCo assimilate? English only?

Or should mcps cancel Halloween parties because the holiday rubs the newcomers the wrong way due to their religious beliefs?

That’s just one example. But I’m curious what you think. Should everyone assimilate, or should we be a melting pot and evolve?

I wasn't really taking a stance on assimilation itself. But I was thinking that as a general rule when people enter an established culture they do not destroy it. They may completely assimilate. They may create communities of people from their prior culture and interact with the greater population on a limited basis or they may even work to get aspects of their culture into the main stream.

The European settlers took a very different approach.

Yes. Hundreds of years ago, Europeans did very bad things. Their barbaric behavior impacted their own women who were treated like garbage.

Fortunately, we’ve all evolved since then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thanksgiving is a day during which the typical American stuffs their face with several thousand calories of fat, salt, and sugar before embarking on a three-week spree of buying cheap crap manufactured overseas.

Sounds like a national day of mourning to me!

Every party needs a pooper!

Or a realist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanksgiving is a day during which the typical American stuffs their face with several thousand calories of fat, salt, and sugar before embarking on a three-week spree of buying cheap crap manufactured overseas.

Sounds like a national day of mourning to me!

Every party needs a pooper!

Or a realist?

Not really. Just stay home if you can't be polite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is not a bad thing. Wave after wave of immigrants have been assimilated and now are just Americans.

And for better or worse, American Indians have chosen not to assimilate, or to both assimilate and not assimilate. Not sure that some of these posters know this or are willing to acknowledge this.

They were here first. Europeans chose not to assimilate.

I'm genuinely struck by how good a point this is. No snark.

Ok.

Should the Latinos coming to MoCo assimilate? English only?

Or should mcps cancel Halloween parties because the holiday rubs the newcomers the wrong way due to their religious beliefs?

That’s just one example. But I’m curious what you think. Should everyone assimilate, or should we be a melting pot and evolve?

I wasn't really taking a stance on assimilation itself. But I was thinking that as a general rule when people enter an established culture they do not destroy it. They may completely assimilate. They may create communities of people from their prior culture and interact with the greater population on a limited basis or they may even work to get aspects of their culture into the main stream.

The European settlers took a very different approach.

Yes. Hundreds of years ago, Europeans did very bad things. Their barbaric behavior impacted their own women who were treated like garbage.

Fortunately, we’ve all evolved since then.

Really? We still treat a few billion people in the southern and select areas of the eastern hemispheres as garbage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanksgiving is a day during which the typical American stuffs their face with several thousand calories of fat, salt, and sugar before embarking on a three-week spree of buying cheap crap manufactured overseas.

Sounds like a national day of mourning to me!

Every party needs a pooper!

Or a realist?

Not really. Just stay home if you can't be polite.

+1

Happy Thanksgiving for those of us who are thankful. The rest of you should stay home. Fast if you think your hair shirt demands it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanksgiving is a day during which the typical American stuffs their face with several thousand calories of fat, salt, and sugar before embarking on a three-week spree of buying cheap crap manufactured overseas.

Sounds like a national day of mourning to me!

Every party needs a pooper!

Or a realist?

Not really. Just stay home if you can't be polite.

Oh, spare me the snobbery.