Should so called “thanksgiving” be a national day of mourning?

[Anonymous]

Indigenous groups and land-back advocates believe so, and they will gather at the rock called Plymouth to demonstrate.

Should we at least change the name?

[Anonymous]

No.

[Anonymous]

I always mourn the turkeys.

[Anonymous]

No. I agree certain days should be renamed and refocused, but not this one.

[Anonymous]

No. The notion that anybody native or not owns land is a little ridiculous and quite frankly for generations natives were kicking other natives off land and claiming it as their own before the Puritans showed up.

[Anonymous]

Sure, as long as it includes a big meal and a component of thankfulness. Incorporating Native American perspective or renaming not a big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Indigenous groups and land-back advocates believe so, and they will gather at the rock called Plymouth to demonstrate.

Should we at least change the name?

You got rid of Columbus Day. Sit down.

[Anonymous]

I'd like it to be 2 days too. Maybe Thanksgiving Thursday stays, and day after, Friday, is a Native American day of remembrance.

[Anonymous]

It’s about being grateful for a good harvest. Most people would be unlikely to grieve about the fact that they have plenty of food.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd like it to be 2 days too. Maybe Thanksgiving Thursday stays, and day after, Friday, is a Native American day of remembrance.

I’d like this. I’d like it even more if we could do celebrate with something other than a shopping frenzy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd like it to be 2 days too. Maybe Thanksgiving Thursday stays, and day after, Friday, is a Native American day of remembrance.

I’d like this. I’d like it even more if we could do celebrate with something other than a shopping frenzy.

Why do you hate America

[Anonymous]

No. Screw off. We don’t care about your pet political causes and the gaping hole in your personality that causes you to promote this kind of stuff. Don’t care about about the claims and fairy wishes of indigenous groups or “land-back advocates”. We tolerate some of this crap in the name of good manners and being charitable. But there’s a limit.

It is a glorious day of national Thanksgiving. I am very grateful that European religious settlers founded the greatest civilization on earth, committed by its founding documents to ideals that were never, not once, within the founding spirit of any prior society.

And not for nothing, but if the North American indigenous peoples had had the ability to cross the Atlantic and the firepower, once there, to seize land and conform the local peoples to their customs, they would have done so without question. Many were very warlike and inclined toward expansion and capture on the continent. (As were most cultures of the era.) We just happen to be much more advanced and way better at war.

To the victor belongs the spoils.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. Screw off. We don’t care about your pet political causes and the gaping hole in your personality that causes you to promote this kind of stuff. Don’t care about about the claims and fairy wishes of indigenous groups or “land-back advocates”. We tolerate some of this crap in the name of good manners and being charitable. But there’s a limit.

It is a glorious day of national Thanksgiving. I am very grateful that European religious settlers founded the greatest civilization on earth, committed by its founding documents to ideals that were never, not once, within the founding spirit of any prior society.

And not for nothing, but if the North American indigenous peoples had had the ability to cross the Atlantic and the firepower, once there, to seize land and conform the local peoples to their customs, they would have done so without question. Many were very warlike and inclined toward expansion and capture on the continent. (As were most cultures of the era.) We just happen to be much more advanced and way better at war.

To the victor belongs the spoils.

Pretty much this. American Indians may be bummed on the third Thursday of November but the holiday is a simple one, gathering family and friends in thanks for a good harvest and for the blessings that you have. Absolutely unobjectionable.

If OP keeps pushing "land-back", she's just going to get more and more pushback.

[Anonymous]

A Day of Thanksgiving existed before Plymouth and several more were commemorated afterwards with zero relation to the Pilgrims. I barely think of Pilgrims when I think about a thanksgiving Day. It’s a day I’m grateful for my family and friends as well as other blessings.

[Anonymous]

I want to have Thanksgiving in September, during an actual harvest period, and not in the run-up to Christmas. It's stupid to have it in November.