“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why congress has never passed a law saying abortion is legal. Why leave it to the Supreme Court?

Hi, welcome to the political forum, maybe learn about the filibuster.

Has there never been a time when D’s could have passed a law? That can’t be true.

There were two months between when Al Franken was finally seated and when Ted Kennedy had to step down due to brain cancer, so pardon us for not solving every effing problem that the Republicans have caused since 1980 during that time.

At least they used that time to pass legislation to stop gun violence. Oh wait, they didn’t do that either.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority on DCUM but I think this is good news and I hope it comes to pass.

You're in the minority full stop.

The vast majority of Americans do not believe the government should be making health care decisions for you.

Like I said, I know I'm in the minority on DCUM. And abortion is not a "health care decision," in the vast majority of cases.

Choosing not to give birth, which is statistically more dangerous than having an abortion, is a “health care decision” in every effing case.

Then don't get yourself pregnant. Problem solved.

Nobody gets themselves pregnant.

Clumsily worded but point remains. If you have such a health care issue with giving birth, then see to it that you don't get pregnant.

F you.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they do overturn Roe v Wade. I don't think republicans have kept up with advances in genetic testing.

Be prepared to pay for child support for 18 years.

Plus more wives will die, if they have medical problems in childbirth. It's like they don't care or don't think it will happen to them.

Have you seen the original "Stepford Wives?" I keep thinking about it. They would love for their wives to die by "natural causes." They would get the sympathy vote, some insurance money, and replace her with a young, hotter, submissive intern.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they do overturn Roe v Wade. I don't think republicans have kept up with advances in genetic testing.

Be prepared to pay for child support for 18 years.

Plus more wives will die, if they have medical problems in childbirth. It's like they don't care or don't think it will happen to them.

This will only affect poor women, especially those of color.

This is what the conservatives want right?

More people on welfare! Hooray!

No, what conservatives want is more dead Black women.

As a black man who is a conservative, when I read white people write stuff like this anonymously it makes me uncomfortable.

Please consider voting pro choice. These reproductive decisions should belong to the woman involved.,

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t muster outrage— anyone else? I mean Congress could pass a law dealing with this. They had 50 years. This is on Congress. Also, abortion has been basically illegal in Texas since September. Where are the stories of coat hangers and women dying and rape victims giving birth? I haven’t read any. Maybe this won’t be so bad. Maybe (gasp) most people are actually fine with this or they’ll figure out how to go to California or New York if they need to. The lack of Texas horror stories is telling. Maybe this isn’t the emergency liberals scream about. Makes you think.

Can I make you think about specifically which times in the last fifty years that the House had a liberal Democratic majority with enough votes to pass something like this, while simultaneously also having a 60-vote filibuster-proof majority to pass it on the Senate side, with a conference committee in agreement? Fill me in.

Between April 2009 and January 2010, the Democrats had a filibuster proof 60 vote margin in the Senate. It was when they passed the Affordable Care Act without a single Republican vote. That’s not counting pro-choice Republicans (and there are some). They could have passed an abortion bill, if they had wanted to do so. The reality is that there are always red and purple state Democrats who do not want to vote on abortion as an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they do overturn Roe v Wade. I don't think republicans have kept up with advances in genetic testing.

Be prepared to pay for child support for 18 years.

Plus more wives will die, if they have medical problems in childbirth. It's like they don't care or don't think it will happen to them.

This will only affect poor women, especially those of color.

This is what the conservatives want right?

More people on welfare! Hooray!

No, what conservatives want is more dead Black women.

As a black man who is a conservative, when I read white people write stuff like this anonymously it makes me uncomfortable.

Facts are facts, Conservatives have made it harder for blacks and others to vote. Florida is in the process of eliminating one Black Congressional district.

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Anonymous wrote:Hope who leaked is disbarred pronto. And if a Justice leaked it then oh my. I am guessing they will polygraph and get to the bottom of this. Whether you are for or against abortion is horrible. Sad day.

You know who should also be “disbarred pronto”? The federal judges who lied under oath saying they would respect stare decisis in this matter when testifying to Congress.

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Anonymous wrote:Great victory for America and a triumph over pure evil.

No. This does not end abortions if that what you mean. It just makes them dangerous and illegal

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Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority on DCUM but I think this is good news and I hope it comes to pass.

You're in the minority full stop.

The vast majority of Americans do not believe the government should be making health care decisions for you.

Like I said, I know I'm in the minority on DCUM. And abortion is not a "health care decision," in the vast majority of cases.

Choosing not to give birth, which is statistically more dangerous than having an abortion, is a “health care decision” in every effing case.

Then don't get yourself pregnant. Problem solved.

Nobody gets themselves pregnant.

Clumsily worded but point remains. If you have such a health care issue with giving birth, then see to it that you don't get pregnant.

My “health care issue” with giving birth occurred when I was diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy. We had been trying for years and desperately wanted that to be a healthy pregnancy. I begged the doctor to find a way to make it work.
An acquaintance’s “health care issue” with giving birth occurred when her (very much wanted, planned for, IVF) baby was diagnosed with a fatal condition that also impacted her health and future ability to carry another pregnancy. She found out during a routine ultrasound at 19 weeks.
A college friend’s health care issue” with giving birth was the additional mental trauma that would result from being forced to carry to term a pregnancy that was caused by rape. A rape she could only remember in flashbacks, because the guy had slipped rohypnol into her drink at a party. She was suicidal already before she even learned about the pregnancy. Thank God for Planned Parenthood.

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This is all because a 6' tall PCOS poster girl couldn't get pregnant in the 1980's.

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Anonymous wrote:Great victory for America and a triumph over pure evil.

A triumph for amoral, misogynistic POSs.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why congress has never passed a law saying abortion is legal. Why leave it to the Supreme Court?

Hi, welcome to the political forum, maybe learn about the filibuster.

Has there never been a time when D’s could have passed a law? That can’t be true.

There were two months between when Al Franken was finally seated and when Ted Kennedy had to step down due to brain cancer, so pardon us for not solving every effing problem that the Republicans have caused since 1980 during that time.

Try more like ten months between Franken being seated in April of 2009 and January of 2010 when Brown was seated to replace Kirk (D) who had been appointed to replace Kennedy.

The Senate didn’t vote on either on an abortion bill or the House climate bill during that time. I wonder why? Perhaps they had members on their own side that didn’t want to vote on those things?

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Anonymous wrote:Great victory for America and a triumph over pure evil.

No. This does not end abortions if that what you mean. It just makes them dangerous and illegal

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The GOP is dead after this.

I don’t know how you can be so confident. I’ve thought this so many times over the last 5 years and it never proves to be true.

I bet they will win more seats. Republicans strip voting rights from black. Dems do nothing, republicans with more seats. Republicans outlaw abortion. Dems do nothing, republicans most likely win more seats. The funny thing is republicans win more seats with less and less percentage of the vote…and dems do nothing. This is a failure of the dems all those old men and women in the senate and house. They will say oh we can not do anything because we only have 50 votes. Oh the moderates! If they had 75 vote they would say they need more senators before they can do anything. Meanwhile the republicans continue to get results by whatever means. Does not look good for the country. I am sick and tired of the right wing always setting the terms of what can and can not get done.

There are obviously always going to be issues with this, but you have no idea about what has been transpiring over the last few years.

Democrats are spineless wimps who only know how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.