Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't consider PWSI, CYA, VSA, NVSC, VYS small clubs. They're not 'loose federations' and do have a cohesive training regimen that another coach could start implementing if one coach left. I never thought that leagues actually provided that level of planning, framework even. It should really be based on what the TDC of the club thinks is best for the boys/girls.

PWSI was VCCL north until they had to leave to get the USDA - they have their stuff together. The rest in your list are small clubs, if not in size, definitely in mindset and development.

VSA has won national championships.

CYA has had some interesting drama in recent years but is making a solid effort to put something together.

NVSC used to operate a semipro men's team and an elite women's amateur team, and people from that club helped to start the Washington Spirit. Not sure what's going on with them now. I know they've got a rep for being "physical."

VYS has a couple of regional contenders, and they help operate the Spirit's Super-Y teams. Aside from that ... they have their own thread. Reston and Great Falls are similar but have smaller numbers -- Great Falls' travel tryouts are far less competitive than VYS', but they put together some decent teams and have a bit of a partnership with Bethesda South.

Bethesda South is a small branch of a big club -- they had to cancel plans to field teams in a couple of age groups this year.

PAC is a small club. IFC, Cugini and Chantilly SC are tiny clubs. The two Barcas are pretty small. They generally have coherent coaching philosophies that will make players better -- whether that translates to accomplished teams is dependent on who tries out.

All either ancient history or isolated, one-of type teams. The only club that seems to consistently field a strong *set* of teams is Loudoun for Boys, and Mclean for Girls. Loudoun makes sense as it is geographically isolated and doesn't have anywhere near the competiotn for players as close in clubs do. Mclean on the girls is mostly due to well-known coaching.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with paying for training. Not sure why it's being thumbed down here. Does someone have to say the training is "super-exclusive and we cut more kids than Harvard" for parents to believe they're getting good training.

No. It's the bragging that they are doing "ODP" when in reality they are U10-U12 just paying for training (fine--but strange to brag your child is doing it).

I don't think anyone here was bragging about being in D-ODP and I think most of those that attended know that it's just additional training. As another poster mentioned it appears reasonably priced and it's meant as just that, not a replacement for your club training. If anything, for those players on B/C teams it may be a good way for them to have constant competition in training vs having to go up against teammates who may be weaker. Gets players out of their comfort zone. Even if it isn't a selective process at the U10-U12 ages, players will want to be the best out there and maybe work a little harder to be noticed within a large group. Players get to know expectations of those coaches who will be part of the selection process. Yes it's just training but it does have it's benefits.

I have a question for anyone who attended the recent VYSA Developmental ODP (D-ODP) "tryouts," or for anyone else who may know the answer. During the Fall training, are they planning to offer anything different then what they did in the past when it was called VYSA Academy? I agree that this program is basically paid training, but in the recent press release about the new D-ODP it also stated the following: "Not only will there be quality training with other high level players in your district but there will also be an opportunity to compete with and against the better players from around the state and Region I (Region I encompasses 15 states in the Northeast part of the US)." This seems like something new and I am wondering whether any of the coaches mentioned what might be involved in the upcoming Fall training. In the end, we decided not to attend for many of the reasons that others have posted, but I am curious about the competition angle and whether this statement is just a bunch of hype.

I noticed the games part too and that caught my attention. My guess is that the games are the only real difference from the "old" academy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All either ancient history or isolated, one-of type teams. The only club that seems to consistently field a strong *set* of teams is Loudoun for Boys, and Mclean for Girls. Loudoun makes sense as it is geographically isolated and doesn't have anywhere near the competiotn for players as close in clubs do. Mclean on the girls is mostly due to well-known coaching.

McLean has had some solid teams at the older age groups due to being an ECNL club but FCV has done as good or better job when you look at all the age groups. Arlington's top teams have been solid on both the boys and girls side, with some of the boys teams being very good (as should be expected from a DA program). BRYC has some very strong boys and girls teams but not sure you'd call them consistent across every age group.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know when NCSL schedules will be available? Website is still showing Spring results.

August 25

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Why is the VPL website so bad?

Their scores aren't completely updated, the 'news' is outdated. Looks like for Spring 2016 there were only two champions U11 & U12 girls, not sure if the boys played the 5 games they were scheduled. The game times for Fall 2016 aren't listed and the clubs listed as participating aren't even scheduled in some of the games.

http://www.vapremierleague.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gpx::73982+L3/+E+105+748337

Can someone enlighten me on what's happening here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is the VPL website so bad?

Their scores aren't completely updated, the 'news' is outdated. Looks like for Spring 2016 there were only two champions U11 & U12 girls, not sure if the boys played the 5 games they were scheduled. The game times for Fall 2016 aren't listed and the clubs listed as participating aren't even scheduled in some of the games.

http://www.vapremierleague.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gpx::73982+L3/+E+105+748337

Can someone enlighten me on what's happening here?

Start here:
http://www.vapremierleague.com

Schedules (this is as complete as its going to be for now; TBD's come from your club; like CCL complete times.locations are not listed in advance):
http://www.vapremierleague.com/schedule/index_E.html?1471369843

Standings (all ages - Spring is younger ages, older do different leagues):
http://virginianpl.demosphere.com/schedules/Fall2015/79110059.html?1471369893

Here's where your news and past events standings will be:
http://www.nationalpremierleagues.com/VirginiaNPL/index_E.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with paying for training. Not sure why it's being thumbed down here. Does someone have to say the training is "super-exclusive and we cut more kids than Harvard" for parents to believe they're getting good training.

No. It's the bragging that they are doing "ODP" when in reality they are U10-U12 just paying for training (fine--but strange to brag your child is doing it).

I don't think anyone here was bragging about being in D-ODP and I think most of those that attended know that it's just additional training. As another poster mentioned it appears reasonably priced and it's meant as just that, not a replacement for your club training. If anything, for those players on B/C teams it may be a good way for them to have constant competition in training vs having to go up against teammates who may be weaker. Gets players out of their comfort zone. Even if it isn't a selective process at the U10-U12 ages, players will want to be the best out there and maybe work a little harder to be noticed within a large group. Players get to know expectations of those coaches who will be part of the selection process. Yes it's just training but it does have it's benefits.

I have a question for anyone who attended the recent VYSA Developmental ODP (D-ODP) "tryouts," or for anyone else who may know the answer. During the Fall training, are they planning to offer anything different then what they did in the past when it was called VYSA Academy? I agree that this program is basically paid training, but in the recent press release about the new D-ODP it also stated the following: "Not only will there be quality training with other high level players in your district but there will also be an opportunity to compete with and against the better players from around the state and Region I (Region I encompasses 15 states in the Northeast part of the US)." This seems like something new and I am wondering whether any of the coaches mentioned what might be involved in the upcoming Fall training. In the end, we decided not to attend for many of the reasons that others have posted, but I am curious about the competition angle and whether this statement is just a bunch of hype.

I noticed the games part too and that caught my attention. My guess is that the games are the only real difference from the "old" academy.

All training is paid training, unless you are selected by USYNT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with paying for training. Not sure why it's being thumbed down here. Does someone have to say the training is "super-exclusive and we cut more kids than Harvard" for parents to believe they're getting good training.

No. It's the bragging that they are doing "ODP" when in reality they are U10-U12 just paying for training (fine--but strange to brag your child is doing it).

I don't think anyone here was bragging about being in D-ODP and I think most of those that attended know that it's just additional training. As another poster mentioned it appears reasonably priced and it's meant as just that, not a replacement for your club training. If anything, for those players on B/C teams it may be a good way for them to have constant competition in training vs having to go up against teammates who may be weaker. Gets players out of their comfort zone. Even if it isn't a selective process at the U10-U12 ages, players will want to be the best out there and maybe work a little harder to be noticed within a large group. Players get to know expectations of those coaches who will be part of the selection process. Yes it's just training but it does have it's benefits.

I have a question for anyone who attended the recent VYSA Developmental ODP (D-ODP) "tryouts," or for anyone else who may know the answer. During the Fall training, are they planning to offer anything different then what they did in the past when it was called VYSA Academy? I agree that this program is basically paid training, but in the recent press release about the new D-ODP it also stated the following: "Not only will there be quality training with other high level players in your district but there will also be an opportunity to compete with and against the better players from around the state and Region I (Region I encompasses 15 states in the Northeast part of the US)." This seems like something new and I am wondering whether any of the coaches mentioned what might be involved in the upcoming Fall training. In the end, we decided not to attend for many of the reasons that others have posted, but I am curious about the competition angle and whether this statement is just a bunch of hype.

I noticed the games part too and that caught my attention. My guess is that the games are the only real difference from the "old" academy.

All training is paid training, unless you are selected by USYNT.

or id2 or PDP with US Club Soccer.

[Anonymous]

Wait, what national championship has VSA won?

[Anonymous]

I think it was girls teams a few years back. Two times. Not sure if same age group in different years or what.

[Anonymous]

I live right near VSA facilities and didn't accept the roster stop for my son and we went to another club. VSA has a very cheesy feel to it.

Kinda like someone who is around the in crowd and over extends their finances to make it to just being "around" the in crowd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it was girls teams a few years back. Two times. Not sure if same age group in different years or what.

VSA Heat -- 2012 U17 champions, 2013 finalists, 2014 U19 champions:
http://championships.usyouthsoccer.org/u19g_vsa_heat_defeats_team_chicago_to_claim_title/

A second VSA Heat team (96) advanced to the national tournament at U18 in 2015.

VSA Elite 97 was in the top tier of the Region I Champions League last year.

[Anonymous]

Oh, a new league. There are so few to choose from...

Elite National Premier League logo and framework announced
ENPL to kick off in August 2017
CHARLESTON, S.C. (Aug. 17, 2016) – The format and structure of the Elite National Premier League (ENPL), the new competition and development platform for boys collaboratively launched by US Club Soccer and the Elite Clubs National League, is taking shape well ahead of the league's August 2017 kick-off...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is the VPL website so bad?

Their scores aren't completely updated, the 'news' is outdated. Looks like for Spring 2016 there were only two champions U11 & U12 girls, not sure if the boys played the 5 games they were scheduled. The game times for Fall 2016 aren't listed and the clubs listed as participating aren't even scheduled in some of the games.

http://www.vapremierleague.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gpx::73982+L3/+E+105+748337

Can someone enlighten me on what's happening here?

Start here:
http://www.vapremierleague.com

Schedules (this is as complete as its going to be for now; TBD's come from your club; like CCL complete times.locations are not listed in advance):
http://www.vapremierleague.com/schedule/index_E.html?1471369843



It is embarrassing. I'd rather have a plain spreadsheet with updated correct info.

They need to get their act together.

Standings (all ages - Spring is younger ages, older do different leagues):
http://virginianpl.demosphere.com/schedules/Fall2015/79110059.html?1471369893

Here's where your news and past events standings will be:
http://www.nationalpremierleagues.com/VirginiaNPL/index_E.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, a new league. There are so few to choose from...

Elite National Premier League logo and framework announced
ENPL to kick off in August 2017
CHARLESTON, S.C. (Aug. 17, 2016) – The format and structure of the Elite National Premier League (ENPL), the new competition and development platform for boys collaboratively launched by US Club Soccer and the Elite Clubs National League, is taking shape well ahead of the league's August 2017 kick-off...

From reading the email from US Club Soccer, I assume you received the same one, I gather this is more like a Champions League competition. The teams play in their respective leagues, either NPL or ECNL, and based on some formula that will not be disseminated, a few clubs will be invited to participate in the ENPL competition to be ENPL champion, or whatever. Please excuse my attitude, but it does seem like clubs will be forced to choose which competition they want to focus on.

Not sure what will be made of the NPL championships, and the USYS championships will need to be played around the same weekends, after VA State Assoc State Cup play. There aren't that many weekends, and I can't imagine who will have the time and money to take their kids to all of these games. My salary range is in the mid-50's, with two other kids I will have to say no to some of the competitions that my son will be invited to. I guess all these leagues makes me feel as if the people setting them up aren't taking into consideration the actual people that have to lug their family around the country to play soccer, not everyone is in their mid-40's pursuing a corporate ladder office job with their only-child.