Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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I know, I was discussing who might have opted in. I don’t see many from Chantilly opting in next year. The question was what happens if only 200 people opt in.

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Anonymous wrote:We do not want to go to Western, we are just concerned we will be pushed to Westfield after 5 years as Chantilly is over capacity.

Is anyone else concerned that once Innovation ES is built and filled up, Crossfield or Fox Mill will get pushed out of Western? Innovation will almost certainly be zoned to Western.

Does that mean Oak Hill could be zoned back to Chantilly in 5 years?

By the logic of the group here, if Fox Mill or Crossfield go to Western they would be rezoned first as they are the furthest away.

With the new ES being the closest to Western, it will be zoned to Western for sure.

I wonder who will be rezoned first; Crossfield or Fox Mill?

Pro Western Crossfield will need to battle with pro Western Fox Mill to fight to stay at Western.

I hope by then, pro Western Crossfield young kids are already in Western, they will care less about other people's younger kids then.

Crossfield is ALWAYS the problem.

Crossfield is the farthest to Western among all the ES under consideration. It cost too much taxpayers' money to bus crossfield to Western.

Crossfield leaves. Problem resolved.

But most of the Crossfield neighborhoods are very close to Western. And, they are a very, very long way from Oakton. And, the school is also much closer to Western than to Oakton. Though, South Lakes may be closer than Western.

Are you proposing rezoning Fox Mill first because it is further from the Western between these two?

Are we taking about Western here or SLHS and Oakton?

I am proposing Option A plus all of Floris.

It makes the most sense because it solves the most problems. South Lakes would be underenrolled if they moved Fox Mill out. And, the commute to Oakton from Crossfield neighborhoods is egregious.

I propose an Option F.

It takes all of Coates except for Worldgate and Dulles Glen, all of Crossfield except for Ashvale and Fox Mill Woods, all of Floris, All of Fox Mill, All of McNair, Navy Island, and all of Oak Hill.

Per the prior option maps, that option would take: 1005 Students from Westfield, 370 Students from South Lakes, 351 Students from Chantilly, and 436 Students from Oakton, producing a total of 2,162 students, which is not bad at all.

This is the most sensible solution I have seen.

It’s hardly sensible to assign 2162 kids to a school without knowing how many students the school can accommodate. We shouldn’t be spending a dime on expanding this school beyond the number of students it can serve in the existing buildings.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you think will happen though if they got 1000 opt ins. Dont you think the boundary decision would then be deferred indefinitely?

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They only have 10 buses or so and the transportation will be provided to the in-boundary kids first. So they will have to make the boundary decisions before the school start.

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Anonymous wrote:We do not want to go to Western, we are just concerned we will be pushed to Westfield after 5 years as Chantilly is over capacity.

Is anyone else concerned that once Innovation ES is built and filled up, Crossfield or Fox Mill will get pushed out of Western? Innovation will almost certainly be zoned to Western.

Does that mean Oak Hill could be zoned back to Chantilly in 5 years?

By the logic of the group here, if Fox Mill or Crossfield go to Western they would be rezoned first as they are the furthest away.

With the new ES being the closest to Western, it will be zoned to Western for sure.

I wonder who will be rezoned first; Crossfield or Fox Mill?

Pro Western Crossfield will need to battle with pro Western Fox Mill to fight to stay at Western.

I hope by then, pro Western Crossfield young kids are already in Western, they will care less about other people's younger kids then.

Crossfield is ALWAYS the problem.

Crossfield is the farthest to Western among all the ES under consideration. It cost too much taxpayers' money to bus crossfield to Western.

Crossfield leaves. Problem resolved.

But most of the Crossfield neighborhoods are very close to Western. And, they are a very, very long way from Oakton. And, the school is also much closer to Western than to Oakton. Though, South Lakes may be closer than Western.

Are you proposing rezoning Fox Mill first because it is further from the Western between these two?

Are we taking about Western here or SLHS and Oakton?

I am proposing Option A plus all of Floris.

It makes the most sense because it solves the most problems. South Lakes would be underenrolled if they moved Fox Mill out. And, the commute to Oakton from Crossfield neighborhoods is egregious.

I propose an Option F.

It takes all of Coates except for Worldgate and Dulles Glen, all of Crossfield except for Ashvale and Fox Mill Woods, all of Floris, All of Fox Mill, All of McNair, Navy Island, and all of Oak Hill.

Per the prior option maps, that option would take: 1005 Students from Westfield, 370 Students from South Lakes, 351 Students from Chantilly, and 436 Students from Oakton, producing a total of 2,162 students, which is not bad at all.

This is the most sensible solution I have seen.

It’s hardly sensible to assign 2162 kids to a school without knowing how many students the school can accommodate. We shouldn’t be spending a dime on expanding this school beyond the number of students it can serve in the existing buildings.

2142 kids are to be assigned to Western according the draft Option C. 2162 doesn't seem impossible at all.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you think will happen though if they got 1000 opt ins. Dont you think the boundary decision would then be deferred indefinitely?

No.

They only have 10 buses or so and the transportation will be provided to the in-boundary kids first. So they will have to make the boundary decisions before the school start.

You do realize that FCPS has far more than 10 buses? What makes you think they have only ten buses?

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Anonymous wrote:So you think it is possible that if they got 200 9th graders for example, they will set a boundary but not require anyone to go so the initial class might only have 200 kids. That also does not seem ideal.

I would be surprised if only 200 kids opted in. I expect a decent number from Floris and Fox Mill. I would guess that there will be a good number form Crossfield, the parents who don’t like the drive to Oakton. I have no idea how many will opt in from Coates and McNair. I don’t expect a lot from Oak Hill but someone posted that the families with 20 minute bus rides to Chantilly are excited about the move. I would expect most of the kids from Emerald Chase to move, their parents were pushing to leave Westfield but not go to SLHS and are happy with the new HS. I also think a good number of the kids from SLHS that pupil place to Langley or Oakton might consider it because it will be a shorter commute.

I have no doubt more than 500 kids opted in. The webpage originally said the opt-in period would end in February, but instead it ended yesterday.

The bigger problem is how to determine who gets accepted. They originally wanted to give priority to kids in draft boundaries, but those draft boundary options were thrown away

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Anonymous wrote:What do you think will happen though if they got 1000 opt ins. Dont you think the boundary decision would then be deferred indefinitely?

No.

They only have 10 buses or so and the transportation will be provided to the in-boundary kids first. So they will have to make the boundary decisions before the school start.

You do realize that FCPS has far more than 10 buses? What makes you think they have only ten buses?

FCPS bought those ten buses from KAA. They will be used for Western HS.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the Oakton parents' petition, it is 60% Navy parents who don't want to be rezoned, which is hilarious because rezoning Navy isn't even in the mix!!

I’m sure people at Navy know they’re not in the mix. You know what else is hilarious? Claiming only a small number of Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton but then refusing to make a petition to demonstrate that argument. That petition is over 650 now, right?

But over half of that 650 is Navy? So less than half of Crossfield signed the petition? I don’t think you’re making a strong argument here…

Dp. If most of Crossfield wanted to move, there would be a petition. Creating a petition is low effort. The lack of one, and the nonsensical excuses, speak for themselves.

Look at the names - very few of them are current Crossfield parents. Lots of former Crossfield parents and lots of Navy and Fox Mill families.

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Anonymous wrote:We do not want to go to Western, we are just concerned we will be pushed to Westfield after 5 years as Chantilly is over capacity.

Is anyone else concerned that once Innovation ES is built and filled up, Crossfield or Fox Mill will get pushed out of Western? Innovation will almost certainly be zoned to Western.

Does that mean Oak Hill could be zoned back to Chantilly in 5 years?

By the logic of the group here, if Fox Mill or Crossfield go to Western they would be rezoned first as they are the furthest away.

With the new ES being the closest to Western, it will be zoned to Western for sure.

I wonder who will be rezoned first; Crossfield or Fox Mill?

Pro Western Crossfield will need to battle with pro Western Fox Mill to fight to stay at Western.

I hope by then, pro Western Crossfield young kids are already in Western, they will care less about other people's younger kids then.

Crossfield is ALWAYS the problem.

Crossfield is the farthest to Western among all the ES under consideration. It cost too much taxpayers' money to bus crossfield to Western.

Crossfield leaves. Problem resolved.

But most of the Crossfield neighborhoods are very close to Western. And, they are a very, very long way from Oakton. And, the school is also much closer to Western than to Oakton. Though, South Lakes may be closer than Western.

Are you proposing rezoning Fox Mill first because it is further from the Western between these two?

Are we taking about Western here or SLHS and Oakton?

I am proposing Option A plus all of Floris.

It makes the most sense because it solves the most problems. South Lakes would be underenrolled if they moved Fox Mill out. And, the commute to Oakton from Crossfield neighborhoods is egregious.

I agree. Crossfield parent here.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you think will happen though if they got 1000 opt ins. Dont you think the boundary decision would then be deferred indefinitely?

No.

They only have 10 buses or so and the transportation will be provided to the in-boundary kids first. So they will have to make the boundary decisions before the school start.

LOL!! FCPS has a lot of busses, they're not just going to use the 10 KAA busses, it's so funny that you think that!!!

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Anonymous wrote:We do not want to go to Western, we are just concerned we will be pushed to Westfield after 5 years as Chantilly is over capacity.

Is anyone else concerned that once Innovation ES is built and filled up, Crossfield or Fox Mill will get pushed out of Western? Innovation will almost certainly be zoned to Western.

Does that mean Oak Hill could be zoned back to Chantilly in 5 years?

By the logic of the group here, if Fox Mill or Crossfield go to Western they would be rezoned first as they are the furthest away.

With the new ES being the closest to Western, it will be zoned to Western for sure.

I wonder who will be rezoned first; Crossfield or Fox Mill?

Pro Western Crossfield will need to battle with pro Western Fox Mill to fight to stay at Western.

I hope by then, pro Western Crossfield young kids are already in Western, they will care less about other people's younger kids then.

Crossfield is ALWAYS the problem.

Crossfield is the farthest to Western among all the ES under consideration. It cost too much taxpayers' money to bus crossfield to Western.

Crossfield leaves. Problem resolved.

But most of the Crossfield neighborhoods are very close to Western. And, they are a very, very long way from Oakton. And, the school is also much closer to Western than to Oakton. Though, South Lakes may be closer than Western.

Are you proposing rezoning Fox Mill first because it is further from the Western between these two?

Are we taking about Western here or SLHS and Oakton?

I am proposing Option A plus all of Floris.

It makes the most sense because it solves the most problems. South Lakes would be underenrolled if they moved Fox Mill out. And, the commute to Oakton from Crossfield neighborhoods is egregious.

I propose an Option F.

It takes all of Coates except for Worldgate and Dulles Glen, all of Crossfield except for Ashvale and Fox Mill Woods, all of Floris, All of Fox Mill, All of McNair, Navy Island, and all of Oak Hill.

Per the prior option maps, that option would take: 1005 Students from Westfield, 370 Students from South Lakes, 351 Students from Chantilly, and 436 Students from Oakton, producing a total of 2,162 students, which is not bad at all.

I propose sending every kid who goes to Carson to Western except of course AAP. Navy Island really needs to be rezoned to Crossfield/Carson/Western. Sorry Navy mommies.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you think will happen though if they got 1000 opt ins. Dont you think the boundary decision would then be deferred indefinitely?

No.

They only have 10 buses or so and the transportation will be provided to the in-boundary kids first. So they will have to make the boundary decisions before the school start.

LOL!! FCPS has a lot of busses, they're not just going to use the 10 KAA busses, it's so funny that you think that!!!

Obviously, you didn’t watch any board meetings.

Only those 10 KAA buses will be used for Western HS, and that’s the reason they will be able to continue providing transportation to the in-boundary kids who won’t opt in but stay at their current high school.

Read the FCPS website. It’s clear that the transportation is not guranateed for out of boundary kids who opted in for Western.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you think will happen though if they got 1000 opt ins. Dont you think the boundary decision would then be deferred indefinitely?

No.

They only have 10 buses or so and the transportation will be provided to the in-boundary kids first. So they will have to make the boundary decisions before the school start.

LOL!! FCPS has a lot of busses, they're not just going to use the 10 KAA busses, it's so funny that you think that!!!

Obviously, you didn’t watch any board meetings.

Only those 10 KAA buses will be used for Western HS, and that’s the reason they will be able to continue providing transportation to the in-boundary kids who won’t opt in but stay at their current high school.

Read the FCPS website. It’s clear that the transportation is not guranateed for out of boundary kids who opted in for Western.

There is a big difference between saying transportation will not be provided for "out of boundary" students and saying that only ten buses will be used for in boundary students.

at no time did the SB say that the transportation would be limited to the ten KAA buses that came with the purchase. And, FWIW, those are "short buses."

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the Oakton parents' petition, it is 60% Navy parents who don't want to be rezoned, which is hilarious because rezoning Navy isn't even in the mix!!

I’m sure people at Navy know they’re not in the mix. You know what else is hilarious? Claiming only a small number of Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton but then refusing to make a petition to demonstrate that argument. That petition is over 650 now, right?

But over half of that 650 is Navy? So less than half of Crossfield signed the petition? I don’t think you’re making a strong argument here…

Dp. If most of Crossfield wanted to move, there would be a petition. Creating a petition is low effort. The lack of one, and the nonsensical excuses, speak for themselves.

Look at the names - very few of them are current Crossfield parents. Lots of former Crossfield parents and lots of Navy and Fox Mill families.

I know of no Fox Mill families that signed that petition. That doesn’t mean that some did sign it but it is not something that has been shared around Fox Mill. We had a group meeting to discuss how people were making their choices and no one mentioned the petition.

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Anonymous wrote:We do not want to go to Western, we are just concerned we will be pushed to Westfield after 5 years as Chantilly is over capacity.

Is anyone else concerned that once Innovation ES is built and filled up, Crossfield or Fox Mill will get pushed out of Western? Innovation will almost certainly be zoned to Western.

Does that mean Oak Hill could be zoned back to Chantilly in 5 years?

By the logic of the group here, if Fox Mill or Crossfield go to Western they would be rezoned first as they are the furthest away.

With the new ES being the closest to Western, it will be zoned to Western for sure.

I wonder who will be rezoned first; Crossfield or Fox Mill?

Pro Western Crossfield will need to battle with pro Western Fox Mill to fight to stay at Western.

I hope by then, pro Western Crossfield young kids are already in Western, they will care less about other people's younger kids then.

Crossfield is ALWAYS the problem.

Crossfield is the farthest to Western among all the ES under consideration. It cost too much taxpayers' money to bus crossfield to Western.

Crossfield leaves. Problem resolved.

But most of the Crossfield neighborhoods are very close to Western. And, they are a very, very long way from Oakton. And, the school is also much closer to Western than to Oakton. Though, South Lakes may be closer than Western.

Are you proposing rezoning Fox Mill first because it is further from the Western between these two?

Are we taking about Western here or SLHS and Oakton?

I am proposing Option A plus all of Floris.

It makes the most sense because it solves the most problems. South Lakes would be underenrolled if they moved Fox Mill out. And, the commute to Oakton from Crossfield neighborhoods is egregious.

I propose an Option F.

It takes all of Coates except for Worldgate and Dulles Glen, all of Crossfield except for Ashvale and Fox Mill Woods, all of Floris, All of Fox Mill, All of McNair, Navy Island, and all of Oak Hill.

Per the prior option maps, that option would take: 1005 Students from Westfield, 370 Students from South Lakes, 351 Students from Chantilly, and 436 Students from Oakton, producing a total of 2,162 students, which is not bad at all.

This is the most sensible solution I have seen.

It’s hardly sensible to assign 2162 kids to a school without knowing how many students the school can accommodate. We shouldn’t be spending a dime on expanding this school beyond the number of students it can serve in the existing buildings.

Totally agree.