Single Issue Voter: Controlling The Borders

[Anonymous]

HR -2 is dead on arrival
It’s not passing the senate
Grow up
Republicans are stamping their feet like petulant children, while the democrats are negotiating for a deal
This is all on republicans.

[Anonymous]

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WOW. I had actually never heard Mike Johnson talk before and I am beyond impressed. He clearly articulated *exactly* what needs to be done - legislation to STOP THE FLOW. Throwing more money and personnel at the issue isn't going to touch it. As a deputy sheriff told him, they don't need "more buckets," they need the flow to be cut off. And I didn't realize Biden could actually do that via Executive Order. WTH is stopping him?

What's stopping him? That he's not in the Executive Branch, but is in the Legislative Branch?

It doesn’t have to be an EO, which can be overturned. Why doesn’t Congress overhaul our entire immigration system, which desperately needs an overhaul. They could, ya know, pass legislation…what they’re elected to do!!

Why doesn't Biden take measures to secure the border IMMEDIATELY?

Biden has the authority to secure the border right now: Rep. Henry Cuellar

"The president has the authority to secure the border right now without any changes to the law."

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6344227913112

[Anonymous]

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Yep. This is why illegal immigration had started to wane drastically under Trump - because he made it so unpleasant for them once here. Unfortunately, he was correct to do so. That seems to be the only thing that works.

Letting a deadly virus spread out of control while collapsing the economy did make it pretty unpleasant for immigrants. Unfortunately it made it unpleasant for the rest of us too.

trump 2024: I’ll make the US so shitty that even people fleeing oppression and war in third world countries don’t want to come here. Just like last time.

[Anonymous]

Well, I guess if PP is correct, we need to pick our poison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Health officials are seeing instances of leprosy, malaria, tuberculosis, scabies, mumps, measles, chickenpox, malaria, polio and other outbreaks of disease at border facilities and in water samples of cities.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mumps-outbreak-quarantine-at-immigration-detention-centers/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/border-patrol-struggles-with-flood-of-sick-migrants

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2023/12/27/leprosy_polio_malaria_tb_measles__and_massive_unscreened_illegal_immigration_1000817.html

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/disease-at-border-puts-migrants-at-risk-theres-a-crisis-here

Drug resistant TB is a thing, and it's no joke. Back in the days of vetting, we checked for such things.

Some of these people are going to be picking food, cooking and serving food for the public in schools and other venues, picking vegetables and fruit, and working with people in close proximity and many of these diseases are contagious.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

And, this is exactly why the House will not give Biden more money until there are policy changes. His policies and rhetoric have led to this crisis and money won't solve it.

The White House has begun to spin its disastrous record on the southwest border by falsely claiming Republicans had an “anti-border security record” and “attempt[ed] to cut Customs and Border Protection personnel.” Specifically, they claimed the House voted “to eliminate over 2,000 Border Patrol agents and erode our capacity to seize fentanyl earlier in 2023.”

But this is a debunked talking point recycled from last year that was already rated “FALSE” by Newsweek and “Mostly False” by PolitiFact. As one analyst told PolitiFact, “the White House is using fake numbers to analyze an appropriations bill that does not exist.” To be clear, the House never voted on any appropriations bill that would have cut thousands of agents from southwest border operations.

In fact, the Republican House-passed FY24 Homeland Security appropriations bill increased border security funding above the President’s Budget Request, including Border Patrol agents at the highest level ever funded, and ICE custody operations at a level more than ever previously appropriated. All but 2 House Democrats voted against that bill, and the President threatened to veto it.

Despite inadequate budget requests under President Biden, from FY22 to FY23 Congress has appropriated billions more in funds for the U.S. Border Patrol and ICE along the southwest border.

Funding for Border Patrol operations and related Southwest border requirements has increased by over $2.28B, or 47%, since FY21. Similar ICE operations funding has increased by $860M, and in FY23, Congress rejected cuts the President requested to ICE funding that would have significantly cut detention capacity and overall immigration enforcement operations.

During the same FY21 to FY23 timeframe, we have seen the average monthly encounters at our southwest border surge by over 63% annually. And the problem is only getting worse.

The President’s supplemental request is little more than misdirection and false advertising that would do little to secure the border.
Of the $14 billion request, just over $2.3 billion, or less than 17%, would actually go to Border Patrol operations. Of that funding, much of it falls within the parameters of managing the crisis – processing tents, medical services, consumables, etc. – that have little to do with actual border security and interior enforcement and more to do with processing illegal immigration into the interior as fast as possible, arguably to hide the humanitarian crisis from public view.

If a 47% increase in similar funding over the last 2 years has only led to more illegal crossings, it’s clear the latest unserious request will do little to stem the flow of illegal immigration.

In fact, a larger share of the Administration’s request, over $3 billion, would actually go to providing direct and indirect assistance to people coming here illegally, through NGOs or even direct cash assistance.

https://www.speaker.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MEMO-TO-PRESS-STAFF-FINAL.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And, this is exactly why the House will not give Biden more money until there are policy changes. His policies and rhetoric have led to this crisis and money won't solve it.

The White House has begun to spin its disastrous record on the southwest border by falsely claiming Republicans had an “anti-border security record” and “attempt[ed] to cut Customs and Border Protection personnel.” Specifically, they claimed the House voted “to eliminate over 2,000 Border Patrol agents and erode our capacity to seize fentanyl earlier in 2023.”

But this is a debunked talking point recycled from last year that was already rated “FALSE” by Newsweek and “Mostly False” by PolitiFact. As one analyst told PolitiFact, “the White House is using fake numbers to analyze an appropriations bill that does not exist.” To be clear, the House never voted on any appropriations bill that would have cut thousands of agents from southwest border operations.

In fact, the Republican House-passed FY24 Homeland Security appropriations bill increased border security funding above the President’s Budget Request, including Border Patrol agents at the highest level ever funded, and ICE custody operations at a level more than ever previously appropriated. All but 2 House Democrats voted against that bill, and the President threatened to veto it.

Despite inadequate budget requests under President Biden, from FY22 to FY23 Congress has appropriated billions more in funds for the U.S. Border Patrol and ICE along the southwest border.

Funding for Border Patrol operations and related Southwest border requirements has increased by over $2.28B, or 47%, since FY21. Similar ICE operations funding has increased by $860M, and in FY23, Congress rejected cuts the President requested to ICE funding that would have significantly cut detention capacity and overall immigration enforcement operations.

During the same FY21 to FY23 timeframe, we have seen the average monthly encounters at our southwest border surge by over 63% annually. And the problem is only getting worse.

The President’s supplemental request is little more than misdirection and false advertising that would do little to secure the border.
Of the $14 billion request, just over $2.3 billion, or less than 17%, would actually go to Border Patrol operations. Of that funding, much of it falls within the parameters of managing the crisis – processing tents, medical services, consumables, etc. – that have little to do with actual border security and interior enforcement and more to do with processing illegal immigration into the interior as fast as possible, arguably to hide the humanitarian crisis from public view.

If a 47% increase in similar funding over the last 2 years has only led to more illegal crossings, it’s clear the latest unserious request will do little to stem the flow of illegal immigration.

In fact, a larger share of the Administration’s request, over $3 billion, would actually go to providing direct and indirect assistance to people coming here illegally, through NGOs or even direct cash assistance.

https://www.speaker.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MEMO-TO-PRESS-STAFF-FINAL.pdf

TLDR
If republicans are serious, they will negotiate a deal.

[Anonymous]

Biden/ Harris is sadly worse than expected. Much much worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden/ Harris is sadly worse than expected. Much much worse.

Eh...might as well bring back the guy facing 91 felony counts who still couldn't control the border despite making it his signature issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And, this is exactly why the House will not give Biden more money until there are policy changes. His policies and rhetoric have led to this crisis and money won't solve it.

The White House has begun to spin its disastrous record on the southwest border by falsely claiming Republicans had an “anti-border security record” and “attempt[ed] to cut Customs and Border Protection personnel.” Specifically, they claimed the House voted “to eliminate over 2,000 Border Patrol agents and erode our capacity to seize fentanyl earlier in 2023.”

But this is a debunked talking point recycled from last year that was already rated “FALSE” by Newsweek and “Mostly False” by PolitiFact. As one analyst told PolitiFact, “the White House is using fake numbers to analyze an appropriations bill that does not exist.” To be clear, the House never voted on any appropriations bill that would have cut thousands of agents from southwest border operations.

In fact, the Republican House-passed FY24 Homeland Security appropriations bill increased border security funding above the President’s Budget Request, including Border Patrol agents at the highest level ever funded, and ICE custody operations at a level more than ever previously appropriated. All but 2 House Democrats voted against that bill, and the President threatened to veto it.

Despite inadequate budget requests under President Biden, from FY22 to FY23 Congress has appropriated billions more in funds for the U.S. Border Patrol and ICE along the southwest border.

Funding for Border Patrol operations and related Southwest border requirements has increased by over $2.28B, or 47%, since FY21. Similar ICE operations funding has increased by $860M, and in FY23, Congress rejected cuts the President requested to ICE funding that would have significantly cut detention capacity and overall immigration enforcement operations.

During the same FY21 to FY23 timeframe, we have seen the average monthly encounters at our southwest border surge by over 63% annually. And the problem is only getting worse.

The President’s supplemental request is little more than misdirection and false advertising that would do little to secure the border.
Of the $14 billion request, just over $2.3 billion, or less than 17%, would actually go to Border Patrol operations. Of that funding, much of it falls within the parameters of managing the crisis – processing tents, medical services, consumables, etc. – that have little to do with actual border security and interior enforcement and more to do with processing illegal immigration into the interior as fast as possible, arguably to hide the humanitarian crisis from public view.

If a 47% increase in similar funding over the last 2 years has only led to more illegal crossings, it’s clear the latest unserious request will do little to stem the flow of illegal immigration.

In fact, a larger share of the Administration’s request, over $3 billion, would actually go to providing direct and indirect assistance to people coming here illegally, through NGOs or even direct cash assistance.

https://www.speaker.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MEMO-TO-PRESS-STAFF-FINAL.pdf

TLDR
If republicans are serious, they will negotiate a deal.

Let me summarize for you.......
Biden lies when he says that Republicans want to cut 2000 agents.
Funding for DHS for border patrol operations has increased significantly over the past 2 years and border encounters have exploded.
More funding will only lead to an increase in border encounters.
Most of the funding in Biden's request is NOT for border security, but for intake, processing, housing and transporting migrants.
The only "negotiating" that should happen is that Biden should agree to take measures to secure the border and prevent migrants from entering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden/ Harris is sadly worse than expected. Much much worse.

Eh...might as well bring back the guy facing 91 felony counts who still couldn't control the border despite making it his signature issue.

I'll take that. The border was manageable under that guy. Ask any border agent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And, this is exactly why the House will not give Biden more money until there are policy changes. His policies and rhetoric have led to this crisis and money won't solve it.

The White House has begun to spin its disastrous record on the southwest border by falsely claiming Republicans had an “anti-border security record” and “attempt[ed] to cut Customs and Border Protection personnel.” Specifically, they claimed the House voted “to eliminate over 2,000 Border Patrol agents and erode our capacity to seize fentanyl earlier in 2023.”

But this is a debunked talking point recycled from last year that was already rated “FALSE” by Newsweek and “Mostly False” by PolitiFact. As one analyst told PolitiFact, “the White House is using fake numbers to analyze an appropriations bill that does not exist.” To be clear, the House never voted on any appropriations bill that would have cut thousands of agents from southwest border operations.

In fact, the Republican House-passed FY24 Homeland Security appropriations bill increased border security funding above the President’s Budget Request, including Border Patrol agents at the highest level ever funded, and ICE custody operations at a level more than ever previously appropriated. All but 2 House Democrats voted against that bill, and the President threatened to veto it.

Despite inadequate budget requests under President Biden, from FY22 to FY23 Congress has appropriated billions more in funds for the U.S. Border Patrol and ICE along the southwest border.

Funding for Border Patrol operations and related Southwest border requirements has increased by over $2.28B, or 47%, since FY21. Similar ICE operations funding has increased by $860M, and in FY23, Congress rejected cuts the President requested to ICE funding that would have significantly cut detention capacity and overall immigration enforcement operations.

During the same FY21 to FY23 timeframe, we have seen the average monthly encounters at our southwest border surge by over 63% annually. And the problem is only getting worse.

The President’s supplemental request is little more than misdirection and false advertising that would do little to secure the border.
Of the $14 billion request, just over $2.3 billion, or less than 17%, would actually go to Border Patrol operations. Of that funding, much of it falls within the parameters of managing the crisis – processing tents, medical services, consumables, etc. – that have little to do with actual border security and interior enforcement and more to do with processing illegal immigration into the interior as fast as possible, arguably to hide the humanitarian crisis from public view.

If a 47% increase in similar funding over the last 2 years has only led to more illegal crossings, it’s clear the latest unserious request will do little to stem the flow of illegal immigration.

In fact, a larger share of the Administration’s request, over $3 billion, would actually go to providing direct and indirect assistance to people coming here illegally, through NGOs or even direct cash assistance.

https://www.speaker.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MEMO-TO-PRESS-STAFF-FINAL.pdf

TLDR
If republicans are serious, they will negotiate a deal.

I’m just curious why we have to negotiate on the security of our borders. What are the goals of dems on the border?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And, this is exactly why the House will not give Biden more money until there are policy changes. His policies and rhetoric have led to this crisis and money won't solve it.

The White House has begun to spin its disastrous record on the southwest border by falsely claiming Republicans had an “anti-border security record” and “attempt[ed] to cut Customs and Border Protection personnel.” Specifically, they claimed the House voted “to eliminate over 2,000 Border Patrol agents and erode our capacity to seize fentanyl earlier in 2023.”

But this is a debunked talking point recycled from last year that was already rated “FALSE” by Newsweek and “Mostly False” by PolitiFact. As one analyst told PolitiFact, “the White House is using fake numbers to analyze an appropriations bill that does not exist.” To be clear, the House never voted on any appropriations bill that would have cut thousands of agents from southwest border operations.

In fact, the Republican House-passed FY24 Homeland Security appropriations bill increased border security funding above the President’s Budget Request, including Border Patrol agents at the highest level ever funded, and ICE custody operations at a level more than ever previously appropriated. All but 2 House Democrats voted against that bill, and the President threatened to veto it.

Despite inadequate budget requests under President Biden, from FY22 to FY23 Congress has appropriated billions more in funds for the U.S. Border Patrol and ICE along the southwest border.

Funding for Border Patrol operations and related Southwest border requirements has increased by over $2.28B, or 47%, since FY21. Similar ICE operations funding has increased by $860M, and in FY23, Congress rejected cuts the President requested to ICE funding that would have significantly cut detention capacity and overall immigration enforcement operations.

During the same FY21 to FY23 timeframe, we have seen the average monthly encounters at our southwest border surge by over 63% annually. And the problem is only getting worse.

The President’s supplemental request is little more than misdirection and false advertising that would do little to secure the border.
Of the $14 billion request, just over $2.3 billion, or less than 17%, would actually go to Border Patrol operations. Of that funding, much of it falls within the parameters of managing the crisis – processing tents, medical services, consumables, etc. – that have little to do with actual border security and interior enforcement and more to do with processing illegal immigration into the interior as fast as possible, arguably to hide the humanitarian crisis from public view.

If a 47% increase in similar funding over the last 2 years has only led to more illegal crossings, it’s clear the latest unserious request will do little to stem the flow of illegal immigration.

In fact, a larger share of the Administration’s request, over $3 billion, would actually go to providing direct and indirect assistance to people coming here illegally, through NGOs or even direct cash assistance.

https://www.speaker.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MEMO-TO-PRESS-STAFF-FINAL.pdf

TLDR
If republicans are serious, they will negotiate a deal.

I’m just curious why we have to negotiate on the security of our borders. What are the goals of dems on the border?

I think they want to be a humane as possible.
Republicans want to secure the border with land mines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And, this is exactly why the House will not give Biden more money until there are policy changes. His policies and rhetoric have led to this crisis and money won't solve it.

The White House has begun to spin its disastrous record on the southwest border by falsely claiming Republicans had an “anti-border security record” and “attempt[ed] to cut Customs and Border Protection personnel.” Specifically, they claimed the House voted “to eliminate over 2,000 Border Patrol agents and erode our capacity to seize fentanyl earlier in 2023.”

But this is a debunked talking point recycled from last year that was already rated “FALSE” by Newsweek and “Mostly False” by PolitiFact. As one analyst told PolitiFact, “the White House is using fake numbers to analyze an appropriations bill that does not exist.” To be clear, the House never voted on any appropriations bill that would have cut thousands of agents from southwest border operations.

In fact, the Republican House-passed FY24 Homeland Security appropriations bill increased border security funding above the President’s Budget Request, including Border Patrol agents at the highest level ever funded, and ICE custody operations at a level more than ever previously appropriated. All but 2 House Democrats voted against that bill, and the President threatened to veto it.

Despite inadequate budget requests under President Biden, from FY22 to FY23 Congress has appropriated billions more in funds for the U.S. Border Patrol and ICE along the southwest border.

Funding for Border Patrol operations and related Southwest border requirements has increased by over $2.28B, or 47%, since FY21. Similar ICE operations funding has increased by $860M, and in FY23, Congress rejected cuts the President requested to ICE funding that would have significantly cut detention capacity and overall immigration enforcement operations.

During the same FY21 to FY23 timeframe, we have seen the average monthly encounters at our southwest border surge by over 63% annually. And the problem is only getting worse.

The President’s supplemental request is little more than misdirection and false advertising that would do little to secure the border.
Of the $14 billion request, just over $2.3 billion, or less than 17%, would actually go to Border Patrol operations. Of that funding, much of it falls within the parameters of managing the crisis – processing tents, medical services, consumables, etc. – that have little to do with actual border security and interior enforcement and more to do with processing illegal immigration into the interior as fast as possible, arguably to hide the humanitarian crisis from public view.

If a 47% increase in similar funding over the last 2 years has only led to more illegal crossings, it’s clear the latest unserious request will do little to stem the flow of illegal immigration.

In fact, a larger share of the Administration’s request, over $3 billion, would actually go to providing direct and indirect assistance to people coming here illegally, through NGOs or even direct cash assistance.

https://www.speaker.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MEMO-TO-PRESS-STAFF-FINAL.pdf

TLDR
If republicans are serious, they will negotiate a deal.

I’m just curious why we have to negotiate on the security of our borders. What are the goals of dems on the border?

I think they want to be a humane as possible.
Republicans want to secure the border with land mines.

Nothing about what is happening at the border is humane.
It is not humane to the migrants, the border agents, those who live on the border, or the American citizens at large.