SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone find Aiden's reaction over the top (the hysterical sobbing and saying "I should have been there.")? I'm divorced and have a 14 year old with disabilities that affect his behavior (mental health issues). I'm upset when things go wrong for him, and wish there were something I could do, but at the end of the day, I don't feel a lot of guilt - he's had a lot of love and support from both my ex and I, a lot of mental health treatment, and at the end of the day, he's going to have to work some of this out (or not).

It just didn't ring true to me, but I admit I may be biased by my own situation.

I think he had that reaction because he realized that because of this, it wasn't going to work out with Carrie - and he was feeling guilty about not being there for his son, and was grieving the end of this relationship he's wanted so badly for decades now.

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Did anyone find Aiden's reaction over the top (the hysterical sobbing and saying "I should have been there.")? I'm divorced and have a 14 year old with disabilities that affect his behavior (mental health issues). I'm upset when things go wrong for him, and wish there were something I could do, but at the end of the day, I don't feel a lot of guilt - he's had a lot of love and support from both my ex and I, a lot of mental health treatment, and at the end of the day, he's going to have to work some of this out (or not).

It just didn't ring true to me, but I admit I may be biased by my own situation.


Has your 14 year old gotten drunk, stolen a car, run into a tree and ended up in the hospital with broken legs because he was upset you weren't there?

Not that exact behavior, but equivalent (or perhaps worse, but to law enforcement involvement and a push for involuntary commitment). As for his reasons for the behavior, sadly, I genuinely do not know - I strongly suspect it does not involve wishing I were there, which is its own separate issue.

Anyway, the difference may be that in my case it has been clear for a long time that something is very wrong. Perhaps for Aiden, because this is newer, the reaction does make sense. Thanks for the feedback.

NP. I think that Aiden’s fear, panic, guilt, worry and sorrow is a typical reaction one would expect from a parent to a beloved child, who thankfully escaped a life-threatening situation and was injured.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had LTW get an abortion. Such a missed opportunity for meaningful storytelling, especially in the current political climate.

We already had two main characters—Carrie and Samantha—talk about their abortion experiences. We don’t need a third main character to go through that. I think a lot more women of LTW’s age related to getting unexpectedly pregnant at an advanced maternal age, feeling conflicted but deciding to keep it, then losing it. In fact, there have been numerous threads about that on DCUM.

It is probably the most realist outcome, at her age.

99% of unwanted pregnancies on TV shows magically end in miscarriage rather than abortion. It's such a cowardly and tired storyline.

Agree. That was especially weak for a show that’s been extra blatant about addressing all things gender.

An abortion or her having the baby with reservations and the impending doom on her life and career would have made more sense here.

You are crazy if you think a character played by a 52-year-old actress was not extremely likely to miscarry an unplanned pregnancy.

It’s baffling to me that people are questioning the storyline. Over 95% of pregnancies when you get to age 50 or around in a miscarriage. Incredibly incredibly likely this is how the story would end. I was actually angry when Charlotte and Lisa were at the glass store, and Lisa was acting as if this baby was gonna be born and she was going to be breast-feeding it.

This is not father of the bride part two folks. If she was 43, even mid 40s, OK, but this is a show about women in their 50s - a viable pregnancy storyline is just not gonna hold water.

But, I am 47 and this is why I am keeping my IUD until 52. I do like that they dealt with the realities of this age - pregnancy while rare is possible, but miscarriage is very probable.

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This age battle is so stupid. Even for an Internet forum. Can we go back to talking about the fun parts of a show that’s finally improved?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel that Harry and Charlotte are being teed up to separate for sure. He cannot handle her new independence.

Yeah, no. They will go the distance. The current storyline is about gender roles in marriage, and what’s “fair.” They are readjusting, not imploding.

Agree. I love it whenever she speaks sternly to him about stepping up!

Agree. They are solid. He absolutely adores her.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone find Aiden's reaction over the top (the hysterical sobbing and saying "I should have been there.")? I'm divorced and have a 14 year old with disabilities that affect his behavior (mental health issues). I'm upset when things go wrong for him, and wish there were something I could do, but at the end of the day, I don't feel a lot of guilt - he's had a lot of love and support from both my ex and I, a lot of mental health treatment, and at the end of the day, he's going to have to work some of this out (or not).

It just didn't ring true to me, but I admit I may be biased by my own situation.

It’s hard for most people when they can’t be with their kids all the time, especially kids who really need both parents. I think that Aiden’s feelings of guilt and responsibility are completely normal. Divorce is hard, and clearly being away from his kids is hard on him.

DP. I think Aidan's sense of guilt is stronger because he's been so far away and been so happy. It's normal.

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Anonymous wrote:Big was a father figure to Carrie, who was abandoned by her own father, whereas Aidan was more of an equal partner. She wasn’t ready for that at the time. Seems like she is now. But her choices are coming back to bite her, because he made a life with someone else, and he’s committed to those kids above all else.

Maybe they’ll be able to rekindle things when the kids are older. But for now, she’ll have to accept that her inability to commit back then facilitated this new difficult ending.

You can’t have your cake and eat it, too.

I've never understood this saying. What is the point of having a cake if you can't eat it, and what cake are you supposed to be eating if not the one you have?

I've also never understood the deep hatred for Carrie and wish to see her punished. Like everyone who's ever not married the very first person they ever dated, you've sometimes been the one to hurt someone and sometimes been the one to be hurt, and the risk of trying to join a life with another person is that they may break your heart. Aiden and Carrie had a messy relationship but it certainly wasn't one in which she was an evil mastermind and he was some hapless naif. They tried - I feel like both of them tried. Messily, imperfectly, in good faith, they tried. And it just wasn't the right relationship at the right time.

Interesting. I like Carrie and didn’t mean to suggest this was her “punishment” for being a bad person. I do think she made a choice that is having some consequences. And so is he! He picked turning away from Carrie when she was having doubts and instead having 3 kids with someone else. So trying to make it all work now is just … complicated. I think whenever we say we can “have it all” we’re ignoring that there’s an upside and downside to every decision we made. You can’t have it all.

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My son is 13 and if he did what Aidan’s kid did, I’d feel emotional regardless of the circumstances. He’s still my baby, and I’d have a hard time seeing him laid up in a hospital bed. Add in all the guilt Aidan feels for putting him through a divorce and being with some other woman, I do buy it.

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Of course Aidan feels guilty and sad for not being there for his son. And his son was in the hospital! I can’t imagine any parent not feeling bad that their kid has to deal with the difficult ramifications of a divorce.

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Anonymous wrote:Big was a father figure to Carrie, who was abandoned by her own father, whereas Aidan was more of an equal partner. She wasn’t ready for that at the time. Seems like she is now. But her choices are coming back to bite her, because he made a life with someone else, and he’s committed to those kids above all else.

Maybe they’ll be able to rekindle things when the kids are older. But for now, she’ll have to accept that her inability to commit back then facilitated this new difficult ending.

You can’t have your cake and eat it, too.

I've never understood this saying. What is the point of having a cake if you can't eat it, and what cake are you supposed to be eating if not the one you have?

I've also never understood the deep hatred for Carrie and wish to see her punished. Like everyone who's ever not married the very first person they ever dated, you've sometimes been the one to hurt someone and sometimes been the one to be hurt, and the risk of trying to join a life with another person is that they may break your heart. Aiden and Carrie had a messy relationship but it certainly wasn't one in which she was an evil mastermind and he was some hapless naif. They tried - I feel like both of them tried. Messily, imperfectly, in good faith, they tried. And it just wasn't the right relationship at the right time.

Interesting. I like Carrie and didn’t mean to suggest this was her “punishment” for being a bad person. I do think she made a choice that is having some consequences. And so is he! He picked turning away from Carrie when she was having doubts and instead having 3 kids with someone else. So trying to make it all work now is just … complicated. I think whenever we say we can “have it all” we’re ignoring that there’s an upside and downside to every decision we made. You can’t have it all.

Or you can but not all at once - or not right at the moment you decide you're ready.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel that Harry and Charlotte are being teed up to separate for sure. He cannot handle her new independence.

No, he’s being “teed up” to accept his new reality by recognizing how much he relied on Wifey/Mommy for so long and realizing that Charlotte now gets her time to be herself. He’s going to step up. He already is.

Agree. Harry has always been my favorite- after Stanny.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone find Aiden's reaction over the top (the hysterical sobbing and saying "I should have been there.")? I'm divorced and have a 14 year old with disabilities that affect his behavior (mental health issues). I'm upset when things go wrong for him, and wish there were something I could do, but at the end of the day, I don't feel a lot of guilt - he's had a lot of love and support from both my ex and I, a lot of mental health treatment, and at the end of the day, he's going to have to work some of this out (or not).

It just didn't ring true to me, but I admit I may be biased by my own situation.

Has your 14 year old gotten drunk, stolen a car, run into a tree and ended up in the hospital with broken legs because he was upset you weren't there? I find Aiden super annoying in many ways - the hair, the coats, his attraction to Carrie, but I completely get his reaction to this.

I thought Carrie's reaction was typically selfish and unsympathetic - "bones heal"? - not particularly reassuring.

“Bones heal.” Was such a stupid un-empathic thing to say. I was half expecting her to ask when he’d be back.

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused about Che's career. Her show didn't get picked up by why does it seem like she is having to start all over again, wasn't she a successful comic before the show, hence why they wanted to make a show loosely based on her life?

Yeah, Che was definitely presented as a celebrity. More sloppy writing, but I guess it was more the headspace THEY were in after the pilot failed. Depression, lacking confidence and motivation, needing to make more money to pay the mortgage for an overly expensive apartment they were really not in a position to buy etc.

I'm PP and thank you for correcting me re: Che's pronouns. I try to be conscious of this but somehow slipped here.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone find Aiden's reaction over the top (the hysterical sobbing and saying "I should have been there.")? I'm divorced and have a 14 year old with disabilities that affect his behavior (mental health issues). I'm upset when things go wrong for him, and wish there were something I could do, but at the end of the day, I don't feel a lot of guilt - he's had a lot of love and support from both my ex and I, a lot of mental health treatment, and at the end of the day, he's going to have to work some of this out (or not).

It just didn't ring true to me, but I admit I may be biased by my own situation.

Has your 14 year old gotten drunk, stolen a car, run into a tree and ended up in the hospital with broken legs because he was upset you weren't there? I find Aiden super annoying in many ways - the hair, the coats, his attraction to Carrie, but I completely get his reaction to this.

I thought Carrie's reaction was typically selfish and unsympathetic - "bones heal"? - not particularly reassuring.

“Bones heal.” Was such a stupid un-empathic thing to say. I was half expecting her to ask when he’d be back.

I liked the "bones heal" line because it WAS thoughtless and stupid. It felt authentic, the kind of cringy, awkward thing that comes out of your mouth when something terrible and shocking happens that you've never dealt with before. I wouldn't judge her for it. Judge her on what she does and how she treats Aidan and his son going forward.

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Anonymous wrote:Big was a father figure to Carrie, who was abandoned by her own father, whereas Aidan was more of an equal partner. She wasn’t ready for that at the time. Seems like she is now. But her choices are coming back to bite her, because he made a life with someone else, and he’s committed to those kids above all else.

Maybe they’ll be able to rekindle things when the kids are older. But for now, she’ll have to accept that her inability to commit back then facilitated this new difficult ending.

You can’t have your cake and eat it, too.

I've never understood this saying. What is the point of having a cake if you can't eat it, and what cake are you supposed to be eating if not the one you have?

I've also never understood the deep hatred for Carrie and wish to see her punished. Like everyone who's ever not married the very first person they ever dated, you've sometimes been the one to hurt someone and sometimes been the one to be hurt, and the risk of trying to join a life with another person is that they may break your heart. Aiden and Carrie had a messy relationship but it certainly wasn't one in which she was an evil mastermind and he was some hapless naif. They tried - I feel like both of them tried. Messily, imperfectly, in good faith, they tried. And it just wasn't the right relationship at the right time.

I agree with all this. People are imperfect. Relationships between people are often imperfect, too.