Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republican SB candidates who aren't religious or MaGa nutters do fine in Fairfax---Moon was a republican who was reelected many times.

Exactly. I voted for the progressive candidate last time because the alternative was a far-right nutjob running entirely on a platform of keeping transgender youth out of bathrooms of their choice. No talk whatsoever about actual educational policies. Believe me, I would love to have a moderately conservative candidate. Or even - gasp - a competition nonpolitical candidate who isn't clearly aligned with either left or right.

[Anonymous]

FrankWinston wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The way I read this is coach Overton is the HS Deion Sanders and he left Freedom for Hayfield, and ppl are mad that he “allegedly” brought his Louie Luggage with him, LOL.

I hear what ALOT of ppl are saying about these alleged to be good men great coaches in other areas, let’s be real and it’s also been stated payers play for the coach they like, parents will take there kids to the program that best fits their kids athletic situation, Seems like Overton had ALOT of kids wish to follow him along to include 5 pre 9th graders. “Dressing” VARSITY is a heck of a lot different than stepping on the field, I’ll say that but if that’s true then tip your hat to that man because he’s def doing things right in the community, to have people think the way they are.

Good morning all be blessed

You think someone who had kids lie about being homeless is "def doing things right in the community"?

God, that is depressing. Your values are completely out of whack.

Do you have proof that he had or made kids lie? If not then stop the slander and defamation

"Slander" is through spoken word. I assume you meant "libel"?

Thank you but I’m sure you have spoken it as well, but point remains the same

It is pretty sad that you think that you've made a point at any time in any of your comments.

This diatribe you think you are having is quite comical in itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s one troll who is the grammar police. It really takes away from the points being made and not being made on both sides of this. Just stop.

I’m firmly against Hayfield but attacking grammar and English is petty and weak.

It’s not one “troll.” There are many of us who cannot understand the Hayfield boosters comments because of the poor grammar and lack of punctuation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question: Why would Reid cover the truth up if there was evidence that Hayfield cheated? How does she and FCPS benefit? They investigated and found no evidence. Did they not look hard enough? Or is she right that this is all just about malicious rumors?

She keeps conflating the two issues at play here. FCPS investigated "eligibility" (e.g. were kids living where they said they were etc.). They cleared entire program stating that all 15-30 (or however many) transfers met FCPS eligibility guidelines. Unclear how exhaustive that investigation was and many people have pointed out its flaws but let's stipulate.

VHSL's ban was for an ENTIRELY different reason - recruiting (or "proselytizing" as it's unhelpfully called in their rules) - i.e., that Hayfield coaches/administrations inappropriately approached players about transferring to Hayfield district. It was this blatant breaking of VHSL rules that resulted in post-season ban. VHSL just tripped up on its own process (it was supposed to enact original punishment by committee vote versus individual decision) - which is typical jurisprudence nonsense these days resulted in injunction until Dec 4th.

Why Reid cannot just say this is beyond me. i.e., we looked into one thing, cleared them and VHSL not disputing. VHSL looked into something else and found violations. She seems to be saying we looked into our thing and so everything else should be disregarded and tripling down on bad behavior and injustice for 180,000 - 2000 students.

Now in reading that rule they allegedly broke, is there tangible proof that any coach or administrator said hey come here, this is where I’m going. If they can’t prove that then it’s for nothing. I’m sure as any coach does he holds a mtg to announce his intent to leave the program. I read about it in the newspaper and saw it on tv (5). So it’s not like he really had to say anything, it was ALL said for him via the press.

Now my next qus this, what is the so called “spirit of the game” rule. It screams participation trophies for everyone. Spirit of the game means no need to keep score track wins and losses hire and fire coaches. In life there are winners and losers, just how it is. Without all the sarcastic responses could someone from either side of the argument give me insight, or basically their opinion how they see it.

The now private YouTube video by LadyBroadcaster had proof of parents talking about being recruited. And a fire alarm chirping of course.

YouTube.com/watch?v=jMO9WL7xlj4

https://www.instagram.com/ladybroadcaster/p/C8ntxdERlzh/

^^^VHSL’s smoking gun that is now marked private^^^

Couldn’t that be subpoenaed from youtube.

IANAL but I’m not sure that applies to anything other than crimes. Plenty of people watched it.

Pretty damning that it’s now private and probably soon to be deleted.

Never seen it so can’t comment on it.

[FrankWinston]

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Anonymous wrote:The way I read this is coach Overton is the HS Deion Sanders and he left Freedom for Hayfield, and ppl are mad that he “allegedly” brought his Louie Luggage with him, LOL.

I hear what ALOT of ppl are saying about these alleged to be good men great coaches in other areas, let’s be real and it’s also been stated payers play for the coach they like, parents will take there kids to the program that best fits their kids athletic situation, Seems like Overton had ALOT of kids wish to follow him along to include 5 pre 9th graders. “Dressing” VARSITY is a heck of a lot different than stepping on the field, I’ll say that but if that’s true then tip your hat to that man because he’s def doing things right in the community, to have people think the way they are.

Good morning all be blessed

You think someone who had kids lie about being homeless is "def doing things right in the community"?

God, that is depressing. Your values are completely out of whack.

Do you have proof that he had or made kids lie? If not then stop the slander and defamation

"Slander" is through spoken word. I assume you meant "libel"?

Thank you but I’m sure you have spoken it as well, but point remains the same

It is pretty sad that you think that you've made a point at any time in any of your comments.

This diatribe you think you are having is quite comical in itself.

Pure projection.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s one troll who is the grammar police. It really takes away from the points being made and not being made on both sides of this. Just stop.

I’m firmly against Hayfield but attacking grammar and English is petty and weak.

It’s not one “troll.” There are many of us who cannot understand the Hayfield boosters comments because of the poor grammar and lack of punctuation.

You play right into their racist claims by doing this. When Reid and other people involved read this board - which they do - it doesn’t help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The way I read this is coach Overton is the HS Deion Sanders and he left Freedom for Hayfield, and ppl are mad that he “allegedly” brought his Louie Luggage with him, LOL.

I hear what ALOT of ppl are saying about these alleged to be good men great coaches in other areas, let’s be real and it’s also been stated payers play for the coach they like, parents will take there kids to the program that best fits their kids athletic situation, Seems like Overton had ALOT of kids wish to follow him along to include 5 pre 9th graders. “Dressing” VARSITY is a heck of a lot different than stepping on the field, I’ll say that but if that’s true then tip your hat to that man because he’s def doing things right in the community, to have people think the way they are.

Good morning all be blessed

This is barely comprehensible.
What is "louie luggage"??

You may have no problem with it, but the facts are that recruiting and bad sportsmanship are against VHSL rules. If coaches don't want to submit to the authority of VHSL, they are free to work at a non-public school.

When Deion Sanders aka Coach Prime left to go to Colorado, he said he’s bringing his luggage with him (players). Then he said his luggage is Louis (Vuitton).

Overton and crew model themselves after Coach Prime so this situation is similar. It’s not identical because there is no portal for high school and you cannot recruit players. And the knock off Coach Primes are the same as the mom meme saying “We have McDonalds at home”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of cheaters always getting away with it

Me to, I don't like it when South County does it, I don't like it when Fairfax does it and I don't like it when Hayfield does it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of cheaters always getting away with it

Me to, I don't like it when South County does it, I don't like it when Fairfax does it and I don't like it when Hayfield does it.

We only have proof and the VHSL
Has only investigated and deemed credible allegations again HAYFIELD.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s one troll who is the grammar police. It really takes away from the points being made and not being made on both sides of this. Just stop.

I’m firmly against Hayfield but attacking grammar and English is petty and weak.

It’s not one “troll.” There are many of us who cannot understand the Hayfield boosters comments because of the poor grammar and lack of punctuation.

You play right into their racist claims by doing this. When Reid and other people involved read this board - which they do - it doesn’t help.

Grammar and spelling rules are racist?

[FrankWinston]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of cheaters always getting away with it

Me to, I don't like it when South County does it, I don't like it when Fairfax does it and I don't like it when Hayfield does it.

I didn't realize that Fairfax and South County brought in 20+ transfers in one season. Thanks for keeping me in the know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s one troll who is the grammar police. It really takes away from the points being made and not being made on both sides of this. Just stop.

I’m firmly against Hayfield but attacking grammar and English is petty and weak.

It’s not one “troll.” There are many of us who cannot understand the Hayfield boosters comments because of the poor grammar and lack of punctuation.

You play right into their racist claims by doing this. When Reid and other people involved read this board - which they do - it doesn’t help.

Grammar and spelling rules are racist?

You think you are clever, but you are clueless. Carry on feeling smug.

[Anonymous]

Hayfield is in a bad spot, me personally if I was the HC I have all types of motivational speeches to use. Against any of these 6 coaches teams, you wanted to paint me in the bad guy role, I’d embrace it. I’d def try and put up as many points as possible on any of these 6.
I’d motivate my kids in the fact there are people who have tried to take something away from us(team) that they worked bled and sweat for on the field. That’s the coach and human nature in me.
If they run it up it adds more fuel to the burning fire. Any margin of victory greater than that of what score was in regular season game comes off as the coach is what they said he was.

#nowinsituation

[FrankWinston]

Anonymous wrote:Hayfield is in a bad spot, me personally if I was the HC I have all types of motivational speeches to use. Against any of these 6 coaches teams, you wanted to paint me in the bad guy role, I’d embrace it. I’d def try and put up as many points as possible on any of these 6.
I’d motivate my kids in the fact there are people who have tried to take something away from us(team) that they worked bled and sweat for on the field. That’s the coach and human nature in me.
If they run it up it adds more fuel to the burning fire. Any margin of victory greater than that of what score was in regular season game comes off as the coach is what they said he was.

#nowinsituation

"me personally if I was the HC..."

For the Freefield kids, it sure seems like a good thing you aren't. You somehow seem less qualified to be around adolescents than Overton and the Freefield parents, and that is saying something.

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Anonymous wrote:What a bullshit letter from Reid.

What letter?

November 20, 2024

Dear FCPS Community,

I am writing to address the continued — and troubling — misinformation being shared regarding this high school football season, and more specifically about the Hayfield Hawks football team. I also want to share with you our plan moving forward regarding this situation.

Let me begin by saying that all of our coaches, our school leaders, our community, and the Virginia High School League (VHSL) share a commitment to the success of our student athletes. We want our students to have passion for their sport and to play every game with integrity and sportsmanship above all else.

The VHSL is an important organization that has the tremendous responsibility of overseeing high school sports and other competitions across the Commonwealth. We appreciate the work they do, but in this situation, we share the frustration that many of our staff and families are feeling.

In August of this year, VHSL deemed eligible every player who has played this season on the Hayfield Hawks football team. Two months later, the VHSL declared the entire team ineligible for postseason play without any specific evidence of recruiting or other violations. Coaches, athletes, parents, and fans are frustrated by the circumstances that their teams are in now, because of the ambiguities within the VHSL’s rules and policies.

Last week, these inconsistencies were confirmed by the Fairfax County Circuit Court judge who, after a nearly two-hour hearing, ruled that Hayfield football could play in the postseason and that VHSL had violated its own rules by imposing a two-year ban. FCPS and Hayfield Secondary School are not parties to this litigation, but we will comply with the court ruling and allow Hayfield football to play in the postseason.

Last night, at their request, I met with coaches and principals whose school communities have been most directly impacted by this situation. During this productive meeting, we focused on our common goal to keep our student athletes at the center of any next steps. I have been clear that we will not find ourselves in this situation again.

To that end, and to minimize the potential of future questions or concerns, and to restore public trust, I have outlined the next steps we will be taking as a Division to ensure that our standards for student-athlete eligibility are clear and aligned moving forward. These steps include:

A comprehensive and independent external investigation and review of all student athlete transfers and eligibility practices across all sports and in all of our high schools.

A review and revision, where necessary, to FCPS athletic protocols and procedures. Led by the Office of Student Activities and Athletics programs, and in partnership with coaches and administrators, this will include a divisionwide review of current practices in evaluating student athlete transfers both inside and outside of the Division.

Alongside our Executive Director of Student Activities and Athletics, I will be hosting two Community Conversations, one for our schools in Class 6 Region C and one for our schools in Class 6 Region D, regarding our athletic regulations and practices. We’ll be sharing more information about those meetings soon and hope you will attend.

We also stand ready to work with the VHSL to improve their policies and processes on student-athlete eligibility. It is vital that we collaborate with everyone involved to ensure we are preparing for the evolution of the student-athlete experience that we are seeing in our country. As we navigate uncharted waters ahead in youth athletics, we must anchor our practices in clear rules and accountability systems that apply to all regardless of circumstances. Access to excellence and opportunity — that is the American dream.

Warmest Regards,



Dr. Michelle C. Reid
Superintendent

She’s right. They banned Hayfield without any specific proof of violation. It was "I’m white and I say Hayfield can’t play”. They probably didn’t expect Hayfield’s parents to have the resources to hire an attorney and fight.

1. Do we have proof that all 24 transfers live within Hayfield's boundaries? Answer: No.
2. Do we know for a fact that at least nine were deemed ineligible? Answer: Yes.
3. Do we have Hayfield football parents on the record noting that the only reason they transferred was for athletic purposes? Answer: Yes.

So, in short, we have several "specific proof of violation." By the way, learn basic English. Hayfield parents denying facts and trying to justify their cheating is beyond sad. They're unfit to raise children.

Unfit to raise children? 😂 Calm down. Breathe. You are taking a high school football matter, even if you’re completely right, way too seriously. At this point, you're officially unhinged.