ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

Because the lesson learned is that ICE may murder you.

I live in a large city, value my privacy, and try to keep a low profile. I would never choose to taunt or show disrespect to any law enforcement person for any reason. When I ride public transportation, I do the same. Too many unstable, trigger-happy people in this modern world.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

Exactly. Look for trouble, you may find it. Avoid putting yourself deliberately in a position of conflict with those whose capacity to impose their will on you exceeds your ability to resist them and live happily ever after.

So you're admitting that ICE agents are trouble.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

And what happens if they don't do what you taught them? Would that make it ok for ICE to kill your kids?

Not okay, but why take the risk?

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

Exactly. Look for trouble, you may find it. Avoid putting yourself deliberately in a position of conflict with those whose capacity to impose their will on you exceeds your ability to resist them and live happily ever after.

So you're admitting that ICE agents are trouble.

Potentially, anyone can be trouble.

[Anonymous]

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Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.

They weren’t in the course of official business. They should have stayed in their cars and driven around.

She should have moved…

She did. And they shot her for it.

Lmao, maga certainly isn’t shy about destroying their own arguments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If she just obeyed the lawful command to exit her vehicle.

She obeyed the lawful commands to move her vehicle. You do know the agents were shouting contradictory commands at her right?

+1. You can see the video from the killer officer. Good’s last words were “it’s ok, I’m not mad at you.” His were “f****ing b**ch” after he shot her. We should all be very afraid if this is the caliber of people ICE is putting on our streets next to our kids.

Below are Youtubes taken the same day Renee was murdered by the Gestapo. ICE steps onto school grounds in Minneapolis at dismissal, and proceeds to terrorize the kids leaving school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD0fs6Hm8qE

The following video shows a kid half hearted tossing a snowball at the Gestapo. They respond by chasing the boy into a crowd of shocked kids, and sprays all of them with a huge cloud of something. Meanwhile, a teacher is yelling to the kids not to provoke the thugs, saying they just killed a woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwhoLYREvYw

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Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

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Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

Do you think you’re actually making a point, here?

No one makes a decision to get shot in the face. People DO make decisions to SHOOT SOMEONE in the face. Do you really not understand the difference?

You don't seem to understand that consequences occur for decisions and actions. I'm not saying it's fair, but it's life. Not everyone is nice, kind, and caring.

It'd be cool if they could be professional though.

And not murder people.

FA FO

And here it is. These MAGA folks are just itching to have the slightest excuse (despite how illogical) to kill someone. They watch FoX News all day and fantasize about blowing some liberal’s head off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

And what happens if they don't do what you taught them? Would that make it ok for ICE to kill your kids?

Not okay, but why take the risk?

Because it shouldn't be a risk in the first place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Go on.

Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.

So why was he holding his phone with one hand and shooting with a gun in the other? If he actually felt like he was in danger wouldn’t he drop the phone or put it in his pocket so he could properly hold his gun to defend himself? Continuing to hold the phone while this (allegedly dangerous) interaction occurs suggests that he did not feel like he was in danger and he was recording this so he can relive the incident later.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

Exactly. Look for trouble, you may find it. Avoid putting yourself deliberately in a position of conflict with those whose capacity to impose their will on you exceeds your ability to resist them and live happily ever after.

So you're admitting that ICE agents are trouble.

Potentially, anyone can be trouble.

Should it be lawful to be trouble?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ross's own video clearly shows her cranking the steering wheel to the right, AWAY from him, BEFORE he shoots. He didn't shoot because he thought she was going to run him over, he shot her because he didn't want her to get away. He was determined to get her, and didn't care if it was dead or alive.

You think he was looking at the wheels of a 4000 lb car after she gunned the engine and he had to make a split second decision involving a car that was arms distance away?

Ordinary people do it in parking lots every single day. And a split second decision means stepping to the side. Not stepping into the vehicle to discharge a weapon three times.

For one, I would never knowingly move in my car in a parking lot if someone,
anyone, was as close to my car as these officers were. Let alone armed officers I had been harassing and were trying to arrest me.

Second, these weren’t “ordinary” people in the wrong place at the wrong time minding their own business. They had been following, heckling, and using their car to block the officers. It’s plausible to think the officer, in the moment, felt like she was trying to run him down.

[Anonymous]

DHS wants you to swallow a physically absurd story. A 4,000-lb SUV supposedly strikes a 150-lb ICE agent who is filming with a cellphone in one hand. While being hit, he somehow draws his gun, fires through the windshield, delivers a fatal headshot, isn’t knocked down, then fires two more shots seconds later through the side window, again striking the head. That’s the narrative. It defies basic physics, human reaction time, and common sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If she just obeyed the lawful command to exit her vehicle.

Then what? She would have been violently thrown to the pavement with a knee in her back as seen in numerous ICE videos? He wouldn't have had a chance to murder her? Where are you gong with this?

NP.

So you seem to think being arrested will be unpleasant (likely true)!and that somehow gives you the right to simply run away when given a lawful order by the police?

Good had been on the scene for some time, intentionally blocking ICE vehicles while waving others through. That is a crime.

There was ample justification to initiate a stop. She opted to flee from a lawful order. Fleeing from law enforcement is a crime. She then attempted to run down a law enforcement officer. He defended himself, which is a justified use of force.

Case closed.

ICE has no authority to initiate a stop. They should have called in the license plate to the real police, as even Good’s wife helpfully implied to them.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

And what happens if they don't do what you taught them? Would that make it ok for ICE to kill your kids?

Not okay, but why take the risk?

Because it shouldn't be a risk in the first place.

Tell that to the deceased. I prefer to live.

[Anonymous]

Let everyone not forget how this all started, which was with fictitious, completely unproven claims of daycare fraud that they’ve used as an excuse to invade a community, which is now resulted in the murder of one of the citizens of Minneapolis.

This is how they’re going to invade every city moving forward.